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Marvel Boy II Not Happening

 
  

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Haus of Mystery
16:47 / 30.07.04
This news is from over a year ago. Bill Jemas doesn't work for Marvel anymore. Neither does Grant. It's over.
 
 
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18:10 / 30.07.04
 
 
FinderWolf
19:45 / 30.07.04
That's awesome, Banana - did you draw that?
 
 
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20:33 / 30.07.04
Thanks, yeah i sketched it earlier on when i was pissed off that there's no more Marvel Boy.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
09:58 / 01.08.04
Eh. Marvel Boy kind of pissed me off - Grant was too in love with how clever he is. It's all so fucking hip and edgy and basically kinda shit, really.

I'm glad he got it all out of his system so as not to crap up NXM, though.
 
 
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14:52 / 01.08.04
Eh. Marvel Boy kind of pissed me off - Grant was too in love with how clever he is.

Can you explain a little more what you mean by this?
 
 
LDones
16:25 / 01.08.04
You're insane, Radiator. Marvel Boy was glorious.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
00:58 / 22.09.04
Dialouge, really - plus far too many concepts per page. The Living Corporation was ace, but too much stuff felt clever for it's own sake. I liked it the first read, but after that I went right off it. Like I felt about Invisibles

Not really something I can really explain to you, I'm afraid.
 
 
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02:00 / 22.09.04
Well...........

SEEING AS THE KREE THREAD IS BACK :



VARR WILL NEVER DIE.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
12:15 / 22.09.04
//but too much stuff felt clever for it's own sake//

OH, COME ON!

damn....
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:45 / 22.09.04
I agree. I hate the misplaced apostrophe in "its", as well. But do you have any coherent critique of the actual work, and the Beard Hunter's opinion of it, Hector?
 
 
This Sunday
03:34 / 23.09.04
How come horror stories are never (well, rarely) bashed for being too scary, or comedies for being too funny... but witty is 'too witty' as soon as it's out the gate, if there's more than one interesting comment or concept per piece? Whether it's intelligent, innovative, or just a bad pun or subtle jab, I'm all for more, more, and whatever else you can throw in while you're at it. Purified, one note pieces, like 'Le Samurai' or... I can't think of a good comics example, but probably ninety-three percent of the mainstream floppies... have their place, but what's wrong with weighty, folded-in-on-themselves, dense as hell stuff? When does witty become too witty; when it has any actual wit, at all?
Even if it's pretentious, pseudo-intellectual ramblings, at least somebody's trying to do something new, interesting, intelligent. Even if they fail, I'd rather the attempt, than just jotting down a quick, tried and true, formula and cashing the resulting check.
More specific to this thread and Marvel Boy, some people, in places other than here, throughout the web and real life, some people acted like the original mini was this vile assault on all things holy than pissed in their eyes and flayed their hands with a potato peeler, dousing them in progressively intense acid baths, before raping small children with starving rodents. Which is a good response, far as I'm concerned, especially since the main offenses were usually listed as: continuity violations, too witty for its own sake, and too strange. Which makes me wonder what a real head-breaker (and I think the second and final minis would have been closer to such) would do to these poor people.
What pissed me off, was the TPB and spread separations. Excusable but annoying... and no rape, piss, or continuity concerns. That was more The Filth, I think.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
14:05 / 23.09.04
Here's a better way to put it - a lot of the technobabble felt tangental to the story at hand the last time I read it, but Grant does rub me up the wrong way if I'm chewed off. Perhaps I'll dig the trade out again.

No-Varr did feel VERY alien, mind. Perhaps that's why he's slightly peturbing.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:13 / 23.09.04
I love Jack Frost's second pic - I love 'em both, but the 2nd pic looks like Noh-Varr is modeling hip skater dude clothes! It actually inspires me to draw a Noh-Varr pic at some point (sans hip skater clothes since those aren't really my style)...
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
14:17 / 30.03.06
This week's Wizard has a two page spread about how Marvel is bringing back Marvel Boy in a big way soon. They didn't mention GM once in the entire article. Didn't say if the story would have anything to do with GM's proposed sequel or not. Just that they think the character has potential and they want to make him a big thing in the coming year.

Even though this was clearly the April Fool's issue of Wizard, this article didn't have any hint of tongue in cheek in at all. They are serious, it seems.
 
 
Mario
14:26 / 30.03.06
If it's not Grant, I'm not interested. I can think of only a handful of writers who could come up with ideas weird enough for the book, and none of them are A-list at Marvel.

(Adam Warren could do it, but he's barely on Marvel's radar)
 
 
The Falcon
14:54 / 30.03.06
Warren could, yeah. He had that Livewires mini, which was - I think - about the worst selling thing in the history of Marvel ever, but may have recuperated somewhat in its' manga digest form.

Otherwise, I can't really see anyone in the stable (Milligan? maybe) who I'd especially want on this. That being said, I think the story's horseshit, so.
 
 
Essential Dazzler
20:04 / 02.05.06
Just spotted this on Newsarama:

Marvel Boy news?

I didn't know a Marvel Boy character had existed before Morrison's story. Restoring the original version of the character completely destroys all hope of a sequel, I suppose.
 
 
Mario
21:29 / 02.05.06
There were quite a few Marvel Boys before Noh-Varr. Most of them are dead.
 
 
John Octave
02:25 / 03.05.06
No 3-D Man in that preview? I'm appalled!
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
03:15 / 03.05.06
a glance over that artice tells me it's not too shabby, but i gotta read it fully. maybe it's better that's not the morrison's version anyway; everytime this thread gets bumped i get goosebumps.
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
20:26 / 15.04.07
Of note from the Marvel solicitations:

NEW AVENGERS: ILLUMINATI #4 (of 5)
Written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS & BRIAN REED

Pencils and Cover by JIM CHEUNG
They have faced the Skrull empire, the Hulk, the Sentry, the Infinity Gems and the Beyonder... but now the secret society of Marvel is faced with the one thing too much for even them... and the cover to this issue says it all.
Oh, and there's this guy named Marvel Boy who declared war on the Earth.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

So I guess this means the thing the secret society can't handle is 'Women'?
 
 
Mario
23:56 / 15.04.07
Actually, the answer would appear to be "their wives/girlfriends".

I'm not pleased that Bendis is getting his hands on Noh-Varr, tho.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
00:12 / 16.04.07
Well, at least we get to see him drawn by Jim Cheung. I'm looking forward to that. Honestly, ILLUMINATI has been enjoyable, even though I spend much of the time reading with this odd feeling of creepiness. That and the timeline confuses me.

Who's the Iron-Masked Woman?
 
 
This Sunday
07:01 / 16.04.07
Madame Masque. She's an Iron Man femme fatale who, from memory, last appeared in Busiek's 'Avengers' run to be killed and revealed as a SHIELD-style Life Model Decoy. She also got messed up during that The Crossing business some years back, when they made Tony a pawn o' Kang, mutated Jan orange, and killed off a few no-hopers living at the Avengers Mansion at the time.
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
07:03 / 16.04.07
Shes called either Masque or Madame Masque (I forget), an Iron Man villain (and presumably sometime lover).
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
12:36 / 16.04.07
I can't see why this would be that much of a challenge. Doesn't Mister Fantastic just have to build a big enough refridgerator and that will depower and maim them? It should certainly last long enough to stow them in whatever the Marvel equivelent of Arkham Asylum is.
 
 
FinderWolf
23:59 / 16.04.07
For clarification, Tony Stark was in love with Mme. Masque (whatever her 'regular' name/ID was - not Bethany Cabe, surely?). Tragic sympathetic villainess, like Catwoman and such.
 
 
Essential Dazzler
00:06 / 17.04.07
Did anyone read Civil War: New avengers/Runaways? It was interesting, it ended with Noh'Varr almost, but not quite decalaring war on the Marvel Universe again.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
01:18 / 17.04.07
Madame Masque. She's an Iron Man femme fatale who, from memory, last appeared in Busiek's 'Avengers' run to be killed and revealed as a SHIELD-style Life Model Decoy. She also got messed up during that The Crossing business some years back, when they made Tony a pawn o' Kang, mutated Jan orange, and killed off a few no-hopers living at the Avengers Mansion at the time.

Oh comics how I love thee.

Sorry, but this paragraph just made me step outside of my own geekness for a second, and then when I stepped back in I was utterly delighted.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
04:02 / 17.04.07
Pacific- Did anyone read Civil War: New avengers/Runaways? It was interesting, it ended with Noh'Varr almost, but not quite decalaring war on the Marvel Universe again.

I quite enjoyed the fact that all the characters acted almost completely in character, even with the Civil War brain virus rules in effect and Noh-Varr was handled in an interesting and suitably creepy fashion. There was some bizarre comic book science and it really highlighted how much the YAs and Runaways overlap as far as storylines and back story go. Other than wishing they'd made a different artist choice, I liked it. I thought it was brave of them to incorporate Noh-Varr so solidly back into continuity and the ending - him restating his desire to conquer Earth in the name of a new Kree Empire - was good because while it recycled the original ending in a sense it also built on it - the Cube was going to be the capital of the new Empire, and now it is that capital. It's allowed to bring it back up because sets up a stunted plotline as a breeding ground again.

Now I want to read Marvel Boy again.
 
 
Tim Tempest
19:53 / 17.04.07
I actually just did.

And it was delightful.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
20:33 / 17.04.07
"It's hard to love a carbonized, irradiated skeletal structure."
 
 
Tim Tempest
01:27 / 18.04.07
But its easy to love a hot chick named Exterminatrix.

It's the "atrix" bit that does it for me.
 
 
This Sunday
21:17 / 18.04.07
Doesn't Mister Fantastic just have to build a big enough refridgerator and that will depower and maim them?

Stop. Giving. Them. Ideas.

Seriously, the above could be next summer's Big Event. With a first issue of a mini with alternate covers, one for each mutilated SO per cover. As seen through the len of Greg Horn.

Whereas I would encourage Marvel to have them all leave the Illuminatusing fellows and form their own enclave of polymorphous key-parties and world domination. It could be the next appearance Dworkin's underthings in the MU. It would, by law of averages, force the writing of at least one useful, interesting and competent female character. And, you know the speculation and hope for some on-panel pandering of the gal-on-gal type would pull in readers.

And it'd probably encourage at least Mr. Fantastic and Doc Strange into transfiguring themselves into the appearance of women, via magick and being elastic. Which could fuel months of a book written by Milligan, or force Bendis to temporarily ape Milligan to get it done.

With Tony trying to convince everyone to follow the government regulations, while simultaneously pulling for all the illuminated heroes to be indoctrinated into Noh-Varr's cockroachy space harem.

(I love dictating the dictates of other people's books, like somehow it'd really happen. Don't you?)
 
  

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