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Ongoing fashion help and advice (or virtual 'does my bum look big in this-ness'?)

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13:51 / 01.10.03

RIMmel. Rimmel are usually a pretty good bet for cheapo fashionable stuff, I think (but then I haven't worn eyeliner for years, so what do I know?).

Topshop do a very nice bright pink corduroy coat this season - they're not all black and white and red...

14:19 / 01.10.03

The pink cordoroy really appeals. Hmm. I'd just be worried about getting fed up with it - I got sick of trudging round in my long black coat last year, and it's hard to say whether a pink coat would be better or if I'd get even more fed up with it. I could always alternate, I s'pose.

14:27 / 01.10.03

Ugh, avoid pink at all costs. It's going to be all over everywhere like a rash within about two weeks, and therefore will look as cheap as chips. Unless you buy the aforementioned pink Burberry mac for breast cancer at a humongous rate.

14:47 / 01.10.03

Yeah, I suppose you're right. I don't know that I'd suit pink, anyway. I'll go and have a nosy at the shops at the weekend, anyway. I tried this weekend, looking for sensible winter stuff, and came home with nothing but a groovy black and pink (erk - only little weeny bits of pink) skirt that I love, but that's not terribly useful.

14:52 / 01.10.03

Does anyone know of a shop where people with fat calves can buy boots to fit them?

(Irresistible image of lots of small, chubby baby cows in wellies, but you know what I mean)

I have terrible trouble but am fed up with boots that finish halfway up my shins and rip my fishnets to shreds...

15:39 / 01.10.03

KCC, I got mine at Oasis and they are frankly awesome, but that was a couple of years ago so I don't know what their boots are like now. Avoid River Island at all costs as well -I was forced to tell the assistant that there was no point in my trying the other one on because trying to stand in footwear like that would permanently deform my leg muscles.

21:40 / 01.10.03

Mmmm... dont mean to sound like a one-track record.. but Dr Martens? Theres a lovely 20 lace pair on ebay (£5.50 when i last looked) in size 7. Wish I could make my feet grow. Or do you strictly mean lady-like boots?

Pink coruroy sounds lovely, but yes, a bit worried about the plausible popularity of such a coat amoung *those* people. It would go lovely with my pink mini-skirt and pink stripey tights. Hmm, perhaps over the top though. Shall have a look in there. x

Goodness Gracious Meme

22:55 / 01.10.03

RIMmel. definitely.

12:43 / 03.10.03

Saying RimMEL is like saying BatTERseeYAH for Battersea and Cllllllarmmmm for Clapham. It's sad and affected and frankly just wrong.

13:08 / 03.10.03

Its not helpful, its not advice, and its pretty certainly not fashion, but it was what I did yesterday:

My mum was giving stuff to the charity shop, so I checked it all first. I came across my sisters old dress- white cotton, very low back (past bra), sort of like a wedding dress in the way the top and bottom was kinda separate, and the seams lower in the middle of the front and back, and the skirt bit is shin-length.

I turned it round, so the front was low; criss-crossed it with white shoelaces (i have to wear a top underneath), put a line of tiny blue and purple glass beads around the low bit, and then on the skirt part, wove pink&purple platted braids, ribbons, sequins, embroidery thread etc all the way down it.

Im not sure if its a good thing or not. It makes me look like orphan Annie, but in a bit of a punky way. The top half is great, im not so sure about the bottom though. I think it needs a pink net underskirt to make it go out a bit, and it would stick out the bottom too, and be raggedy at the ends.

My mum just told me she wouldnt drive me anywhere if i was wearing it. So it must be a good thing.

Tryphena Absent

13:35 / 03.10.03

I'd wear it!!!!

00:25 / 04.10.03

I've decided its not so much punky, as damsel in distress. Not entirely sure how I got the two confused...

15:04 / 07.10.03

OK, all I want now, is a kinda punky leotard. Something with a print on it, black and white, maybe some colour too, its all I ask for. But no, I have to have girlie girlie ones. Hmph.

09:11 / 24.10.03

Did you find your leotard, Bop?

Right.

I need serious help of the small child's clothing variety. I have a very posh posey media type wedding to attend in May (I know it's miles away, but the panic has already set in) and as I am sister of the bride my son has the rather onerous task of being the only token cool kid allowed to go to the wedding. (Well, not actually the only one allowed, she actually doesn't know anyone else with children.)

After much discussion he has decided he wants to wear a suit 'like Daddy's' so now I have the rather fretful job of trying to find a doody flared 70's style mini-man's suit, and a patterned shirt for him. Yeay for fashion happy 5 year olds though! However, I don't know of any shops near me that sell such things; there only seems to be scary sailor suits and the like in Bath. I've looked in John Lewis, but they only seem to sell suits of the royal family's children variety, and there just doesn't seem to be anything anywhere which bears even a passing resemblance to what he wants.

Help.

09:27 / 24.10.03

I don't know anything about children's clothes shops, I'm afraid - but maybe you could make it? It shouldn't be too hard if you get a pattern and adapt it to add the flares. The shirt would be a bother to make, but you can probably buy that bit.
Oh, hang on - have you looked in H&M's kids bit? They seem to have great stuff.

09:32 / 24.10.03

Aha! Go to H&M's site, click on Inspiration and then Paper Love, and you'll get a bunch of photos of kids. There's one wee boy in a velvet suit jacket. Who knows, maybe they do trousers, too.

17:49 / 25.10.03

Hmm. I was in H&M this afternoon and went looking in the kids' section (Barbelith really does take over my life sometimes). I found the suit but it's a bit dodgy. I know velvet suits conjure up images of Little Lord Fontleroy but this was more LLF's louche cousin. It was distressed velvet, if you can picture such a thing, and any kid wearing it would need a cigarette in one hand and a glass of whisky in the other. Perhaps not the effect you're after, olulabelle. Though obviously I don't know what 'like Daddy' means!
They also only had really wee ones. I actually have little concept of how big a six year old is, but these looked pretty small.

08:57 / 27.10.03

Ariande, bless you for looking in the kids bit, you're a star.

I emailed H&M but they haven't mailed me back, so they're not getting my money. And anyway, if you think the little velvet jacket is a bit 'louche LLB, smoking stylie' it's not right.

'Like Daddy' means a flared, fitted suit (sort of 70's but not quite so full on) and a funky shirt. Not easily available for the smaller amongst us.

This particular six year old is skinny and tall - an age four waist and age six/seven legs. I keep saying "Eat your greens," but he doesn't listen.

20:16 / 28.10.03

Your son rocks more than any six-year old I've heard of.

No punky leotard, as such. Found one which is not pink and shiny with shiny-foil sleeves with shiny diamates to go with a shiny pinky sparkly scrunchy and shiny hair though. Not sure if this pic will work:

*shh, or over here*
I was scared I'd fall out of it, but its skin-coloured mesh, not just nothingness. Otherwise, we could have a few coaching disasters followed my gymnast-abuse cases.
I've seen a uni-course, that has lots of leotard design in it, as well as underwear design, so i see a gappy market and a path to riches. But I need a fortpolio for it, which I dont have. Which means actually getting round to it soon, as well as an advanced higher, a job, travelling, gymnastix and a life, or taking another year out. I dunno.

13:41 / 31.10.03

I've just bought some boots off the internet.

I don't need any advice, I just thought I'd mention it as a fine example of 21st Century life.

Goodness Gracious Meme

14:43 / 31.10.03

ah, but do they go with the parka?

(when yr asleep, there's no telling what yr clothes get up to.)

19:45 / 01.11.03

These
are pretty cool, although not as great as the ones I wanted, but have run out, with a kick-ass cartoon punk girl up the sides. So yes. Boots off net= goooooodd. hmm. I should get a life.

Tryphena Absent

20:40 / 01.11.03

You know I can't wear DM's because the fourth toe on my left foot is too long and rubs horribly against them (my feet look slightly square but are only deformed in the sense that they're incredibly flat). The boots are really slopey at the front. Plus I have size 8 feet and that means those really pointy shoes look ridiculous on me. I feel so limited.

Oh my point was that you're so lucky you can wear them!

Also I'd hate to think what would happen if my clothes came to life while I slept.

17:59 / 02.11.03

Last night my lairy Firetrap shirt picked a fight with my A Bathing Ape T-shirt, because the T-Shirt's from Singapore and the Firetrap shirt's a bit of a wanker. My entire Paul Smith collection broke up the scuffle and a rather strange pair of jeans I bought ages ago from French Connection just watched and laughed. Thankfully the new parka didn't see any of it. It's a bit soon for that sort of behaviour, I think.

No star here laces

00:51 / 03.11.03

Dear fashion people - what is the strongest association that a tie worn casually has for you?

I like to wear ties sometimes. However I resent people making cracks about Avril Lavigne and/or the Rapture when I do so. Are ties interminably associated with said popular musicians or can I carve out my own tie-wearing style?

06:10 / 03.11.03

Ties point to your knob. It's that simple.

Goodness Gracious Meme

18:49 / 03.11.03

can I carve out my own tie-wearing style

oh, definitely.

you need to pick interesting, distinctive ties, and manners of wearing them, which yr well capable of doing,in order to distance yrself from the crappy
stereotypes...

ties/casual makes me think of punk/new wave'ers, meself.

This weekend I've seen nothing but men in Bathing Ape shirts, there's too much money in this town.

06:11 / 04.11.03

I've always wondered what the purpose of ties is. They serve no funtion beyond making shirts look a bit smarter. Anyone any idea "why tie"? Is it really just an attention gathering strategy on behalf of your knob?

06:58 / 04.11.03

A man's tie greatly symbolizes his personality, his position in life and his personal sense of style. Take typical bankers, for example, who are usually very conservative and straightforward. Their ties are usually solid dark blue and at times feature stripes of gray, while other times the ties are gray with blue stripes

I prefer the knob theory, myself.

Regrettable Juvenilia

14:00 / 05.11.03

See, I've never liked ties, but then I wore one with a white shirt and dark suit as part of my 'Crazy 88' costume for JackThe Bodiless' party - Illmatic and others will be able to say what they thought of it first hand, but I have to say it's made me wonder about wearing it again some time. To clarify, this is one of those ones that doesn't get any fatter or thinner and is sort of square at the ends, plus it's made of this really nice cotton-y (?) material.

And I gotta be honest and challenge bengali's mention of the need to distance yrself from the crappy stereotypes... - I mean, seriously, who cares? If the stereotypes are crappy stereotypes, why bother distancing yourself from them? Am I making sense here? The people who are going to be all "ewww, you look like you like The Rapture and that was sooo last year", and the people who are like "ewww, you look like you like The Rapture and they're not real rock like Muse/Toil/blah" - fuck 'em both, you know? Which is to say: it always strikes me that it's the people in the middle ground where fashion is concerned who gets a really rough deal. It's like it's only okay to be cutting edge or not give a shit at all: to suddenly think "hmm, that looks good on those peeps, I'll try that too" isn't okay after a certain point?

Spot the defensive rant.

Tryphena Absent

14:24 / 05.11.03

So you know that you need to distance yourself from crappy stereotypes then?

to suddenly think "hmm, that looks good on those peeps, I'll try that too" isn't okay after a certain point?

No that's fine, the problem is that so many people try to do precisely the same thing. Of course they're going to come across as lame because they're putting absolutely no consideration in to what they're wearing. When I was watching 'Bitches in Hell' the other day their drummer was wearing a black shirt and white tie. Now why on earth would you dress exactly like a load of other guys from a band you're shitter than when you could be wearing a corset like the girls in front? It's only when you're being distinctively copy-cat that it really looks fucking stupid.

Like those twatty shoreditch girls with the same diagonal haircuts and layers and ohdeargod asymmetric ponytails with matching fringe (their hair really bothers me). You can't tell me that they don't look really stupid in packs of two or more?

The purpose of ties? To bring some colour to really uniform clothes!

19:35 / 05.11.03

On a practical level, you can wear the same suit five days a week but with a different tie and you look fresh and new every morning.

19:50 / 05.11.03

Only you might smell a bit.

09:46 / 06.11.03

Not with a liberal splash of Denim - for the man who doesn't have to try too hard.

Goodness Gracious Meme

01:42 / 07.11.03

oh dear, i seem to have caught the 'no-one can tell when i'm stirring/taking the piss' syndrome.

Fly: was joking. At 'laces, who should and can wear what the hell he likes.

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