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Mafia 3 - A New Horizon

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otherjerry & the unworkable siblings

21:23 / 11.03.03

just so there isn't any confusion. i really need a vacation. a cruise sounds delightful. i'd be happy to serve as ship's cook to pay my way, and if there are some capo di capi to uncover and eliminate, so much the better.

oh, and p.s.
i think the fink idea is cool. one more name to call someone in an accusation

21:52 / 11.03.03

Remember it's entirely up to the Fink how they use their information, so they might well swing lynchings away from innocent villagers they've inquired about in trying to trace the detectives.

Any more thoughts on the Fink, anyone?

The Fink has a similar constraint as the Detective: all the Fink can ask is "Detective? : Yes/No"

They don't necessarily know who the mafia is, and could wind up confiding in a detective by accident.

I do think it'd violate the spirit of the game if they were *trying* to seek out innocent villagers and tell them who the detectives were - the game definitely has sides, and the Fink is on the Mafia side, not the Villager side. It also seems like it'd be really hard for a Fink to help Villagers - the Mafia would know that an outed Detective (and the Detective's "outer") weren't in the Mafia, but no one else would. I suppose a Fink could help network the two Detectives, but could just as easily hook a Detective up with a mafiosi.

21:54 / 11.03.03

If one of those "innocents" is the fink they would know who the detective is and who the mafia to tell is. The detectives are screwed.

Ahh. It's yes on the first, but no on the second. The Fink doesn't know who the mafia is. They *can* be misled.

Nietzsch E. Coyote

22:23 / 11.03.03

True but I was refering specifically to the senario of a Detective confiding in his network of innocents.

16:04 / 12.03.03

Right, so we're up to the following 10 players so far:

Todd
grant
otherjerry
Nietzsch E. Coyote (Canus Lupus Deicidus)
Whiskey Priestess (I'm assuming you're in, given this post)
Biz:"Run you stupid pigeons, it's Armin Tamzarian!"
rat
Orr we're doomed, Captain
Season 3 Flyboy (was so much more likeable)
~~~B C~~~

We still need 5 more and a relatively group decision on the controversial 'Fink' character (which I'd prefer to keep in, in all honesty).

16:53 / 12.03.03

Personally I love the idea of Finks; treachorous swine make for more paranoia and more paranoia makes for more fun. I think.

Also looking forward to the 20s setting: the nice but dim dilettante (and their polite but remarkably capable manservant?), gentlemen and players, gangsters and molls, the idealistic young vicar, the nervous young writer, the old Colonel with his stories of the Boer War and his blunderbuss called 'Betsy', the journalist, the millionaire, the professor; there're loads of possibilities - Fitzgerald crossed with Lovecraft crossed with Wodehouse crossed with Waugh.

And it'll be nice to get a few lungfuls of negatively ionic fresh air, to hear the rush and slap of waves against the hull, the cry of seagulls, the orchestra and the pool and the champagne, the dancing and the romance and the... well... what matter a few sudden, violent deaths in an atmosphere like that, eh?

And I'm definitely up for a bit of keelhauling. Just as long as I'm one of the ones doing the hauling, of course. Heh heh. After all, a weed left to grow, eh?

Whisky Priestess

17:51 / 12.03.03

I think the fink would be an interesting variation. The Mafia don't know who the fink is, so an innocent (or detective) could take on the role and find out who the mafia are that way.

Nobody knows anything=paranoia all round!

Super!

Although please don't anyone ask me to play another game. I'm mentally and emotionally exhausted by this one as it is. It ain't nice being on Death Row night and day.

18:05 / 12.03.03

It ain't nice being on Death Row night and day.

Unless you're Mama Morton...

I'm pretty ambivalent about the idea of the fink but if he replaces one of the mafia instead of adding to them then i think it'll be fine. Two mafia and one possible ally versus two 'tecs would make for a werry, werry devious game. With a smaller team, the mafia won't be able to bully by numbers any more and so identifying them via voting patterns will be a lot harder. Can I just ask that we don't cut back to one 'tec as losing ours this time has made is so bloody hard?

Whisky Priestess

19:56 / 12.03.03

Exactly. It was only because Sax had identified Paleface as Mafia in Mafia 1 that we had any idea of who the third one was. No such luck this time round. Although, likesay, the Doctor has made a late spurt and proved to be a crucial player at a crucial moment - would having 2 detectives mean having no doctor? Or would we be playing with 3 goodies and 3 baddies?

Whisky Priestess

19:58 / 12.03.03

Afterthought: Only problem with 2 'tecs is that a Mafioso can convincingly pose as a detective because they too know who is innocent and who guilty. With only one, if a Mafioso posed as a detective they'd be instantly found out because the real 'tec would out them.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

00:37 / 13.03.03

You can count me in. I think the Fink could be a neat idea.

04:37 / 14.03.03

Can I play?

05:36 / 14.03.03

Of course you can, angelvanilla. With you and Soatie in, and Whiskey out, that makes 11 players. Just 4 more needed.

No star here laces

13:38 / 14.03.03

Oh, go on then. I can hardly be more hated than last time...

Whisky Priestess

16:03 / 14.03.03

That'll teach you to vote with that naughty Orr fellow.

(Seriously though: sorry. Fighting for my life at the time.)

17:47 / 14.03.03

Oooo. I wanna be a consumptive lotus-eating dilletante.

Yay, twenties.

01:05 / 15.03.03

I'm in.

09:17 / 15.03.03

1 more player needed, then as soon as Granton is free of/under the control of the Mafia, the SS Substandard can sail...

otherjerry & the unworkable siblings

22:42 / 15.03.03

does anyone have any dietary needs i should be aware of? any dairy allergies? any vegetarians? i need to requisition our galley supplies. what do the capo di capi eat?

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

00:31 / 16.03.03

Even the rich Chairman of the '20s is a vegetarian. But I have a dark suspicion someone on the ship may want pasta and gnocci.

01:39 / 16.03.03

Well, I had a sweet little operation in Shanghai, running guns to the warlords. But I got greedy and sold the same load to two rivals. The Dragon Lady tipped me off (thanks, darlin') that the Yangtze pirates were sharpening their hatchets; I skidoo with a few thousand in gold and all the opium I could carry. I also got this funny little green soapstone statue while I was cooling my heels on Ponape waiting for the winds to change. Ugly lil' sucker, but drop it overboard on a line and the fish start biting like nobody's business. Though to look at it, you'd think you'd get a few squid too.

A Caribbean cruise sounds just the ticket, and a pipeful of Rangoon's finest and Bessie Smith on the ol' Victrola...it's the bee's knees! And the only tongs I'll see are the ones dropping ice into my drink!

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

03:51 / 16.03.03

Do we have a full complement now Tez?

08:24 / 16.03.03

Yup, we're at capacity. As soon as the Mafia have finished with Granton, we can start.

14:39 / 16.03.03

So we're going with the Fink, right?

15:34 / 16.03.03

Yup. To recap, there will be the following 15 players:

Todd
grant
otherjerry
Nietzsch E. Coyote (Canus Lupus Deicidus)
Chairman Maominstoat
angelvanilla
Bizunth: based on the exciting novel 'Bravo India Zulu'
rat
ProfessOrr Yaffle
Season 3 Flyboy (was so much more likeable)
~~~B C~~~
Byron Bitchlaces
Lionheart
iconoplast
bjacques

of which there will be:

10 innocents
2 Mafia
2 Detectives
1 Fink

Whisky Priestess

16:20 / 20.03.03

I think you new players will probably have died of old age by the time the current game draws to a glacial close ... sorry everyone.

Regrettable Juvenilia

19:52 / 20.03.03

Why not just start it anyway, Tez? There's only a couple of over-lapping players, and I'm sure they can cope...

20:47 / 20.03.03

Maybe you should set a firm policy on the voting time limit before you start.

21:18 / 20.03.03

Yeah - although I'm still enjoying the ridiculous tension in this game, having a voting time mechanism in place would be an asset.

22:33 / 20.03.03

Yeah, it reminds me of the standoff between Kurt Russell and the other guy at the end of John Carpenter's The Thing. Bottle of booze in hand, hypothermia not far off. "Now we wait."

22:38 / 20.03.03

NO, no, no. It's Xander and the zombie bomber in 'The Zeppo'.

"I like the quiet".

22:40 / 20.03.03

For some reason, I think it's more like thirty seconds before the freezeframe at the end of Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid.

Whisky Priestess

17:48 / 25.03.03

Or like Thelma and Louise when they drive off the cliff.

Anyway, start your motors, Mafia 3 players - Granton is now a dominion of Sicily and the Tez is about to set sail!

I shall be watching with Godmotherly interest ...

21:57 / 25.03.03

Before we raise the gangplank are there any extra rules to be added after the Granton experience? Any restrictions or deadlines on voting strategy?

22:14 / 25.03.03

Are we going to be sailing into the Bermuda Triangle?

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