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Wife swap (ch4)

 
  

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Ganesh
09:45 / 08.10.03
I liked the to-the-point exchange at the end.

Waynetta & Adidas Bloke: "Are you saying we're spongers?"

Aspirational Woman: "Yes. I am."
 
 
Olulabelle
11:33 / 08.10.03
I know. *Guilty laughter.* But, I did feel sorry for Waynetta, she obviously had severe self esteem problems and really couldn't cope with the idea of another woman in her house with HER man. And the whole scenario wasn't helped by the male half of the aspirational couple constantly referring to his 'beautiful Emma' whilst looking at Waynetta with little disguised revulsion.

But I didn't like the 'spongers' comment, I mean in V/O at the beginning they explained how Adidas Bloke had been in work for 10 years with the same company and then got made redundant, hence his now being on benefits. I thought it was a nasty, belittling and bitchy thing to say and it was completely obvious to me that one of them was going to make a remark like that from the very minute I set eyes on the couple. Aspirational, my arse.
 
 
Ganesh
11:46 / 08.10.03
On seeing a glamourised Waynetta + Joycore Hairpiece gliding down the staircase for a night out, Aspirational Man did say "I told you you'd scrub up okay".

*titters*
 
 
Jack Vincennes
12:17 / 08.10.03
I thought that he said that at the time, and then told myself that surely no-one would actually say that if they knew they were being filmed!

Yes, I was on Waynetta's side rather than otherwise at the start, so it was rather nasty watching her lose control as the show went on. Although right at the start, when Aspirational Bloke described her as a "great fun Northern lass" or whatever it was, and she described him as a "wuss", it was clear that things were only going to get worse for them both...
 
 
Cherry Bomb
12:33 / 08.10.03
The "glamourous fake hairpiece" was kind of a highlight for me. I noticed she wore it to the "final round" when she was going to have to face off against "Beautiful Emma." I think my favourite was when when Waynetta went completely fucking mental at the end, ie. "STOP SHOUTING AT ME!!!!" which of course she was shouting at the top of her lungs, and of course the kind of "boobie dance" she did in Beautiful Emma's direction.

I will say that Waynetta was a bit unstable to say the least, but I really, REALLY hated the Aspirational Couple. "Waynetta, that's the first time I've heard you express emotion all week.." UUGH pretentious!!

Anyway yes this is great television - I really believe it will make the leap across the pond but if it doesn't, start working on getting a visa over.
 
 
_Boboss
12:43 / 08.10.03
they were so hardworking aspirational and ambitious but on a combined wage of only twenty-seven a year? could try harder, no?
 
 
Ganesh
12:49 / 08.10.03
Must admit that, were my husband suddenly to lose his steady income, my immediate reaction would not be to become serially pregnant with another two, three sprogs. The Leaptopian National Anthem did sli-i-ightly sound for me at that point...

Liked Waynetta's 'executive pants', though, slinkily modelled during her one and only day's work.
 
 
Jack Vincennes
13:02 / 08.10.03
"Waynetta, that's the first time I've heard you express emotion all week.." UUGH pretentious!!

It was indeed hideous, but it also meant that the show could end with Adidas Bloke saying, "She is normal"...
 
 
Ganesh
16:31 / 08.10.03
they were so hardworking aspirational and ambitious but on a combined wage of only twenty-seven a year? could try harder, no?

I wondered about this too...
 
 
Sax
17:47 / 08.10.03
I must be getting very right wing in my old age because I just kept shaking my head in wonder that the scrotes were getting £37,500 a year after tax.

And Ganesh: How could you, even in your weakest of weak moments, actually even consider thinking that guy was remotely sexy? He smoke in his kids' bedrooms.
 
 
Ganesh
18:45 / 08.10.03
Smoking in childrens' bedrooms has always been a very specific fetish of mine.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:01 / 09.10.03
Apparently the ABC network in the US has just signed a deal to do their own version of this show - but they won't call it "Wife swap", it'll be something tamer - I just saw the article on CNN but don't remember the new less-racy title. This kinda disgusts me. Didn't the movie THE ICE STORM teach us how scummy wife swapping is??
 
 
Ganesh
13:09 / 09.10.03
Why? Because viewers may become damaged by mere use of the decontextualised term?
 
 
Sax
14:59 / 09.10.03
This from a country that released a movie called Shag.
 
 
FinderWolf
18:03 / 09.10.03
oh, I see -- it's not about wife swapping in the conjugal visits sense? More like dude whose wife hates to clean house gets a snappy CT housecleaning wife for a day and sees how he likes it?
 
 
Ganesh
20:52 / 09.10.03
Yep, contrary to Waynetta's paranoid imaginings, 'conjugal duties' are not part of the package - which is why I'm surprised that the title's getting the chop.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:43 / 10.10.03
Was I the only one would have liked to see Aspirational Man beaten senseless by a pack of youths?
 
 
Sax
08:08 / 10.10.03
Why?
 
 
Jub
09:22 / 10.10.03
Sax, - you have to ask?!
I watched this last night on the late night repeat, and was appalled (but couldn't not watch obviously).
Okay, from the top:
Aspirational Man was annoying because he thought Aspirational Woman was the mutts nutts. Nothing bad about this in itself - in fact I think it's great the way both couples shewed their own brand of familiarity and closeness to each other. When he was in the restaurant with Waynetta, he said something like "so now you've seen a picture of how pretty my wife is, how do you feel about her being in the house?" I don't think he was inviting Waynetta to react how she did, but to massage his ego and say what a lucky man he was etc etc. IE he's used to most people pandering to his insecurities, and wants constant validation that his wife is fit. Why on earth should it matter how pretty she is in the swap? He evinced a snobbish attitude throughout. "oh you *do* scrub up well" - and shouting her name at the end interview, etc. He's a fucktard of the highest order. I do hope this answers your question Sax, but as always I'm open to debate.
As for Waynetta, I felt a bit sorry for her. She did try her best, but she clearly knew nothing else besides that house and how she lived, and liked it too. She was so insecure about the other woman in her house with her man etc, and this was compounded by the fact that the other couple was "posher". This made her feel more insecure and more in need of her familiar support structures, namely her family and all that goes with that. Very annoying woman. Seeing her at the end being all aggressive was scary. When the other one said "oh, I'm flattered" she didn't know what to say and so plumped for "well, you don't want to be!" - wtf?! She resorted to bullying and intimidation because she knew no better. Touching in a way, but mostly terrifyingly real. (She wouldn't look out of place on a mob march through the streets to rid the estate of the paediatrition who has just moved in).
The Aspirational woman (Emma?) was annoying too but in a different way. She *did* think she was better than the slobs, but not in a wholier than thou way, which made it all the more awful. Waynetta was spot on clocking the fact that she said "we are an asirational couple" and it being a dig. Middle class through and through, in the bad us and them 60's way (man). I felt a bit sorry for her too, as she clearly didn't know how to handle people that weren't being nice to her, - at the end when waynetta is having a go at her, she's going red and looking at her husband for comfirmation of her superiority. She tried to act nonchalently about things which clearly irk, eg "I have sugar in my tea, but not in coffee", her going red, wanting to storm out (as she definitely would have at home, can you imagine that pussy whipped man talking to her like that), and then asking all uppity how many etc.
Lastly, the smoking man - He was by far the most clam and rational preson in the whole show and made all the situations tolerable. He's clearly in love with that awful (oh sorry, "normal") woman, so fine. I did love his back from pub "fucking this and fucking that" routine too!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:58 / 10.10.03
Sax: he just kinda bugged me.

But as for the highlights: Waynetta telling her husband not to be soft on Emma: "I know how nice you can be" - this after we've seen him go on several rants comprised almost entirely of the words "fucking" and "prick".

And then Emma, having being called a home-wrecking slut etc, clearly decided she was going to mess with Waynetta's head during the final meeting (fair enough) - so eyelashes are fluttered and all of a sudden she's telling the bloke about how much she admires all the work he's doing, how amazing he is to cope with it all... which pushes Liz over the edge...
 
 
Sax
10:34 / 10.10.03
Yeah, he bugged me too, but I just didn't know why. The whole programme was a real emotional wrencher for viewers, I feel - *we* are obviously meant to empathise with the Aspirationals and laugh at the Slobs.

Smoking Man scared the shit out of me. He was massively aggresive to Mrs A and one step away from becoming Mr Domestic Violence. I also thought the whole show was trying to set up some tittilating sub-textual "is he going to grab her tits?" scenario, which was pretty distasteful.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:41 / 10.10.03
I dunno, I think he came out of it better than the other three. I certainly didn't identify with the bourgeois fucks much...
 
 
Jub
13:07 / 10.10.03
Apparently Liz and smoking man are being investigated about their benefits now. It's in today's Sun, so it must be true.
 
 
Sax
13:41 / 10.10.03
Link here.
 
 
Ganesh
20:19 / 14.10.03
Slightly less Kappatastic one this week, but still interesting, particularly as the fortnight unfolded. Initially warmed both wives - Donna McPhail and Yoga Woman (despite her obtrusive lipliner) - and found one of the husbands (Tartrazine-Fuelled Balding Gary Crowley) irritating as fuck. The other husband, Lovely Black Guy, was dim but nice.

I found myself agreeing with Yoga Woman when she partly attributed Gary Crowley's regular toys/pram propulsion to "nutrition" - he was plainly hopped up on sugar-caffeine goofballs - but revised my opinion when we met his adoringly arse-wiping mother (who equated doing anything in the house to 'being a wimp'). Nice seeing the lacto-vego-whatYogaWomansaysgoes household cutting loose at a) big meaty barbecue, b) dog-racing and c) seaside.

Just prior to the endpiece, I was on-course for hating Gary Crowley and respecting Yoga Woman - but Gary Crowley surprised me by developing a sudden streak of insight (along with a birdshit-streaked shirt), while Yoga Woman remained utterly unable to acknowledge that forcing an entire family to abide by her 'my body is a temple' dietary rules was in any way controlling. Gary Crowley was spot-on with his 'you and me are very similar' but she was completely unable to see this. Selfawhereia?

I'd love to think Donna McPhail and Lovely Black Guy (who had something of the sleepy, pre-psychotic Frank Bruno about him) might've mustered some assertiveness between them and carried it home with them - but I suspect they'd revert quickly to partner-pleasing type.

Good stuff.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
20:46 / 14.10.03
He desperately needed Maxine. So, so sweet when he marched down the street with those flowers!
 
 
Jack Fear
00:18 / 15.10.03
FYI: the title for the U.S. version will apaparently be Trading Moms.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
10:29 / 15.10.03
Trading Moms?? Ugh! Horrible title! Wife Swap is a way better title. Ah well, it'll still be a ratings winner, mark my words.

Last night's was not as good as the week previously, and you know, I actually liked all of the players this week except for Yoga Lady. I thought she was bit over bossy, though yes I agreed that Bird-Stained Shirt Man was hopped up on sugar and crap food most of the time but it did seem as if he made an effort when the rules swap happened, after his initial tantrums subsided, and at least he had some personal insight into his own behaviour and at the very least had the good intention of cooking Maxine a meal once week, whether he's actually done it or not.

Lovely black guy was indeed cute and lovely, and liked the way he and Maxine bonded over doing everything just to shut their partners up. I can't really say a bad word about Maxine, to be honest; I thought it was sweet the way she wanted them to do more things as a family, even though it wasn't her family.

At Least Birdshit man admitted some of his faults as well, poor Lovely Black Guy was left in a tizzy with Miss Yoga, "Well, I don't think YOU appreciate ME?" etc. etc.
 
 
Ganesh
19:22 / 21.10.03
Faaaarking hell. First ad-break, and already my jaw's hitting the carpet. The Libertines (kids up until 2am) swap with Creepy Pathologically Jealous OCD Nutnob Man and his wife, Patti Hearst - a faeces-retaining blend of 'League of Gentlemen's Val & Harvey and the tin-straightening psychopath from 'Sleeping With The Enemy'. These people carry out weekly boot-camp drill-inspections of their teenage childrens' rooms, put their lights out and examine their teeth before bed.

Already the quotes are building:

"What a wonderful husband, letting his wife go out on her own!"

"Wouldn't get me on a sunbed. Pay a fortune for cancer." (spoken with fag in hand)
 
 
Ganesh
19:27 / 21.10.03
"You now have an hour and fifteen minutes before you have to stop watching television."
 
 
Ganesh
19:47 / 21.10.03
"You clearly enjoy children enjoying themselves. That's the difference between us."

Can't help thinking there's something Rose West-ish about Jude the Bad-Tempered OCD Bitch, with her apparent willingness to sacrifice her childrens' joy to their stepdad's psychopathology.
 
 
Ganesh
19:59 / 21.10.03
"... and already the excrement from the animals has dripped down the walls."

"You didn't make them eat vegetables! You are an evil cow."
 
 
Whisky Priestess
20:03 / 21.10.03
"You now have an hour and fifteen minutes before you have to stop watching television."

JEESUS!
Dadflashback!
GNAARGH!

Happens to the best of us. Never did me any harm.
 
 
The Strobe
20:07 / 21.10.03
What was interesting was how in the first ten minutes, you thought Jude was a bit under psycho stepdad's thumb, until you see that he's the one that has any capacity for change and she's the total psycho. God, in the end, you see how they ended up together. Just... ick.

It really shakes me up and fear for myself as a potential father, given I'd never want to be psycho but probably have the capacity to.

And reminds me how much I hate the noise of shouting children. Hate, incidentally, in all the right ways.
 
 
Ganesh
20:07 / 21.10.03
I love the way this series overturns one's starting assumptions. At the start of the programme, I was convinced Jude was the poor downtrodden victim of Autistic Roy. The fact that, in the course of an hour, Roy thawed and Jude stiffened (and appeared to possess absolutely no emotional intelligence whatsoever) made me wonder whether Jude had slyly manoevred Roy (an inexperienced step-parent at best - one can only wonder at his Godawful upbringing) into the Fuhrer role in order to serve her own need for strangulating order.

Brrr...
 
  

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