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The meaning of the American Dream

 
 
Jack Denfeld
03:13 / 06.08.01
I just finished watching a comedian on HBO. He explained that the American Dream is to start off in the gutter and work until you have money coming out of your ears, and you make a silly face.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
10:35 / 06.08.01
Only Americans need to be told they should be successful...
 
 
SMS
13:34 / 06.08.01
success == money coming out of your ears

?

Sorry, The, I just don't see it. If this is success, then it isn't even trur that one should be successful. In fact, it's quite impossible for everyone to have money coming out of their ears.

So is the American Dream as posed by Jack Denfield even a good thing?
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
14:32 / 06.08.01
From a selfish me-first point of view, yes of course. If you're the kind of person that wants the best for their fellow man then no.
 
 
SMS
16:18 / 06.08.01
So what if your selfish for your own spiritual development? One may ask if it is even best for "me" to value money so much. I'm not critisizing money, but...

Often, if I were to say "I question your values. I question the emphasis you place on material objects," the response I would get is "yeah, well, I make a hell of a lot more money than you, so I don't think you have a case."

The American dream seems to get us money. I mean, there are the poor, and there are the homeless (which, you know, is pretty much atrocious), but our standard of living increases, our military might remains mighty, and our cultural influence is pretty damned strong. And this goes for my fellow man as well. My question is, though, even if we didn't have homelessness, and we eliminated the worst of the poverty (not having enough food to eat and not getting basic medical care), then would the American dream be a good thing?

Does a rags to riches tale belittle the one in rags, who never quite makes it to riches? Does it say to the construction worker, you aren't living the American dream?

Or does it give hope to those without? Can it be a source of inspiration, and give people a reason to get up in the morning?

I believe that the answer to all these questions is "sometimes."
 
 
netbanshee
04:09 / 07.08.01
...ask most American's and they may agree in some way with the big money thing, but that's today's point of view. Hell, it'd make a life in this consumer culture a little more accessable. But what about those who started it off...I think that we're out of touch with that America. Also, too many of us now are too well read, too informed with so many ideas that we can argue that one up and down.

I'd love to have a sugar daddy put up the money it would take to make art and have it accessable to everyone I wish it could get to. Instead I sit unemployed in my basement trying to do it on my own...still the same dream though.
 
 
invisible_al
07:51 / 07.08.01
Well America may be rich, but its fat as well, it has all the fun diseases that come with being rich.
Cancer, Obesity, Heart Disease, hey if you're rich you can eat as much as you want.
Nice bit of irony I think :-)
 
  
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