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Papess
16:34 / 08.11.02
Y'all want a divination thread, here ya go.

If you have a question, ask it and someone will do a reading, go into a trance and channel your answer, read tea leaves, what have you...then post it here. Of course, one benefit to this thread is having several people read for one situation. Synchronicity abounds!

Warning: Stupid queries will, no doubt, be ignored.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:58 / 08.11.02
I'd like to request a reading regarding my spiritual, emotional, and career development, which all seem to be coming to a turning point in the past months. Looking for guidance and ideas on these subjects - specifically, guidance on the career front, esp. as it relates to ways to generate income that are creative and artistic. Basically, "Am I on the right track? What do I need to be aware of/look out for? Is there guidance that can help me achieve my highest good and get in greater contact with my divine inner self? When will I achieve the healing I seek?"

So there it is - the first request on this thread. Thanks very much in advance!
 
 
Tamayyurt
17:04 / 08.11.02
We should wait til the reader has finished and posted their reading before someone requests a new reading... just to not swamp the reader with requests. That said, after Hunter, I got next
 
 
cusm
18:11 / 08.11.02
Ok Hunterwolf, I'm trying out a new divination system based on english gemetra here. Lets see how it goes. I took an english dictionary and sorted the words by gemetric value. Then, started with the gemetric value of your name, which is 852, looked at the Thelemic list first and then pulled several words at random from the big list under 852. Some without looking, some with. Some ended up only pasting parts of words, which I find intersting. Anyway, results and interpretation:

Two from the Thelemic set jumped out at me: Forth-Speaker and Abstruction, the later because I read it as Obstruction. Are you being obstructed from speaking somehow, or being obstructed by how you are speaking currently?

Folling this, NEU and PATROONRY (not everything I grabbed was a full word, and there are some odd entries in the dictionary I used). I sigelized PATROONRY in to patron, as perhaps you will find yourself a new patron of some sort soon. Perhaps as an apprentice?

THEOP
SOCIO

Matters of divinity and social standing or acceptance are important to you. Perhaps linked. You may find your path to divinity through your relations with others.

CARICATURIST - Are you a real person, or an exagurated icon of something? Do you hide behind a version of yourself that is not entirely you? Or is this a clue to how you should approach your art? Draw much?

RHODOS - greek influence. Googleomancy brought up this: "Greek art - On Rhodos the local people are famous for their craftmanship." What are you fameous for? What sorts of craftmanship are you skilled at?

COMMUNICATING - you do seem to be getting a push here towards art, or perhaps writing. Communication is a good goal for creativity. What do you want to express? Figure this out, and you're art will come to you.

WORLDPROOF - Have you shut outside influences out? Perhaps this is something to overcome.

TORTURING - This following the one above suggests that isolation, perhaps a lack of communication or ability to be open with others is causing you pain. You mentioned healing. What are you torturing yourself over that shuts you away from others?

WOODWRIGHT - While the topical meaning is of one who works with wood, I suspect this is meant to be more personal. Googleomancy again: "Welcome to The Woodwright's Shop, where the lathe is humming, the living is easier, and the spirit of the traditional woodworker thrives" It looks like Dilligence in your craft is the message here.

SUPERUSER - On computer systems, the superuser is the user with full access to the system at its most dellicate level. Nothing is barred from the superuser, he can do whatever he wishes. This system is his to command or explore, even unto the files of others. He is the sysadmin, the Emperor and Magus. A good one to end with.


I see an overall message dealing with communication and openness or connections with others as a personal goal to work on, and in employment the message seems to be to find what you are good at, and work at it, with encouraging messages towards art, ending with an afirmation that your skill will be the key to your success.

heh. That was fun, and a lot more coherent than I expected. I hope it was helpful
 
 
The Tower Always Falls
19:14 / 09.11.02
Interesting. I use the I-Ching myself, and the results are rather intersting in conjunction with cusm's results (by the way, veeery interesting technique there cusm..)

Anyway, I got hexagram 35. Chin or "Prospering". It implies a sort of progress made by a farmer under the light of the sun. (The lower trigram is "Field" while the upper trigram is "radiance"). Here's the image.

Prospering, the calm feudatory avails-of bestowing horses to multiply the multitudes.
Day-time sun three-times reflected

This is the image of an independent, yet obedient servant and a kind and understanding master. These are the conditions which foster great advancement (Very Confucian that...) The feudal lord rewards his servant, and the light of the sun is seen luminescent in the servant.

I had two transoforming lines. Six at third.

Crowds, sincerity, repenting extinguished.

A group of people who are all in agreement. Other farmers and workers' common will erases any doubt of your own. Possible loss, but also possibility for great advancement.

And six at fifth.

Repenting extinguished.
Letting-go, acquiring, no cares.
Going significant, without not Harvesting.

Regret is pointless and one must stay reserved in the situation while realizing that the situation is progressing accordingly. The previous troubles and remorse will disappear, so loose the regret.

So there you go. Seems pretty positive to me. It reflects cusm's reading of working with others in order to gain something positive. The crowd imagery kept popping up for some reason, but it seems to be a good crowd that allows you to advance with their support. And if all this is too abstract, just remember that Chin is read as both "Progress" and "Prospering" depending on the translation.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:15 / 10.11.02
Thanks to everyone, esp. cusm and The Tower -- I've barely had any time to be online in the past few days, I'm just reading these readings now for the first time early Sunday evening, 11/10! Just skimmed 'em, gotta go offline now and finish some chores - but I'll digest 'em more soon. Imp, your turn!
 
 
FinderWolf
20:19 / 10.11.02
oh, and cusm, did you use my real name in determining the numeric value, or my fictionsuit name (i.e. HunterWolf or Tony Wolf?) I'm not even sure if my real name is on my profile......
 
 
Tamayyurt
20:54 / 10.11.02
I don't want to bother anyone if you're busy, but I'd like a reading cause my life feels up in the air right now... May? cusm? if you need any specifics just PM me.
 
 
ShadowRain
10:36 / 11.11.02
Hello, would love a reading as well. PM me and let me know when you've got time available. Seems like you'll have to start scheduling
 
 
cusm
15:08 / 11.11.02
FYI, I used "Hunterwolf" for the reading. I think suits, handles, or similar names work better for this sort of thing, as a handle is a form of sigel to the person, especially when that's the primary way I know you.

I'm glad you liked it, and its cool that the overall message went with the I-Ching. That was the trial run for this form of reading, so it looks like it works
 
 
grant
15:38 / 11.11.02
cusm: you should write a brief description of your method for a thread here and for the zine.
 
 
Papess
23:16 / 11.11.02
Impulsivelad

1. Current Life Direction:
5 of Wands - Strife: Perhaps recently you have had a minor setback. It has taken a little wind out of your sails, maybe knocked your self-esteem a bit. This may have even affected you romantically. The stress level is up as you try to meet the challenges before you. It may seem as if no matter what you do, in personal life or otherwise is never enough.

2. Lesson
4 of Cups - Luxury: Fairly routine work that does not stimulate you, is causing you to become apathetic. For all the work you do, you are not actually being a fully present participant. You have a lesson here of whether you are going to just let things happen to you, or make things happen for you.

3. Near Future
6 of Cups - Pleasure: Thinking of the way things used to be has caused you to overlook opportunites. You may want to find out in the near future if they are still possibilities. If we associate this to your career, your past efforts will be recognised and you will start to do satisfying work. There are aspects to your chosen field that bore you to tears, but this opportunity will have various rewards, one of which is, you actually like it. (I just got a flash of you in an office of some magazine being given an assignment...but I am NOT psychic, k)

4. Long Term Objective
Princess of Cups: Got a novel in there Imp? You have an idea for a big project you want to create. You will in time. (Here I got the image of film) Write the screenplay Imp.
This card also seems to indicate the need to renew or revived feelings in your romance too. The pressure will lift, once you put your plan into motion. You feel as if you can do anything.

5. Help to Attain Your Objective
2 of Swords - Peace: You will hit a snag, but don't worry. The situation may undergo a few negotiations before the deal is solid. Keep at it. Even if things do not happen right now the way you plan, your contribution will eventually be recognized. You may want to bring in a third party to settle differences, if need be.

I have three more cards. I use them for some privacy issues. I don't want to strip anyone down in front of the whole class, unless of course, you are into that...?

I will PM the remaining three cards to you Imp as I did for Jack D.
 
 
Tamayyurt
00:05 / 12.11.02
Thanks a lot, May. I'll assimilate the reading and try and make the appropriate changes. That magazine job sounds great, too bad you aren't psychic, eh? I do have some projects in mind. I'll have to look at them more seriously and give them a proper go.

Thanks again... can't wait to see the, um, private cards.
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
21:08 / 22.11.02
(waves hands from back of the room)

PICK ME! PICK ME!

Thank you.
 
 
Papess
21:18 / 22.11.02
Rex: I have done you too many times

I will let someone else have a turn.
 
 
ciarconn
21:53 / 22.11.02
OK, I'll give it a try. I'm stuck, spiritually speaking. What do I do to un-stuck myself?
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
22:19 / 22.11.02
From May:Rex: I have done you too many times

And I'm sure the memories get you through many cold,lonely nights, dear. I didn't bump this thread up for my own fun...I really do want a rwading using the other forms of divination on this thread.

Please.

Re:XXX
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
22:20 / 22.11.02
After ciarconn, of course. I will even contribute for his reading...
 
 
Papess
00:56 / 23.11.02
Well ouchies!

I apologize Rex. You must have seen my post before it was moderated. When I saw what I had posted, I realized that was not the meaning I intended.

I simply meant to convey how unsubjective I would be with you and hoped that you would be picked up by someone other than myself.


I am glad you are going to do a divination, you know I admire your work.

Peace Dude XXX
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
18:09 / 23.11.02
(((**huggles**)))

No offense.Just being playful...
 
 
cusm
13:44 / 09.01.03
Ok, I'm feeling encouraged by recent success, and so willing for more practice, so am bumping this thread. Its also just a mighty cool thing for the magick folks to exchange divinations for eachother, so its bumpworthy just at that.

For mine, a one word name or sigel is what I use. Suit names are best for personal readings, but I can see how if you wanted something else read on, you could reduce the intent to a one word letter sigel (6-10 letters ideally) and I could read on that as well. I haven't tried that yet, but I'm up for experimenting. Just keep in mind I might blow you off for weeks till I get around to it...

As a request of my own, I've got one worth putting to the forum. Anyone good with astrology charts? Western, Chinese, Vedic, or whatever you're into? Got a copy of Astrolabe? My wife just gave birth to twins on Dec 21st, boy as 12:01am and girl at 12:02am. *beams* These kids have been surrounded by more syncronicity and numerology that I can even describe. So, I'm betting their charts ought to be interesting if anyone can do that. Thanks
 
 
illmatic
14:01 / 09.01.03
HUGE CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FAMILY CUSM !!!!
 
 
Papess
14:10 / 09.01.03
Hey! Congratulations Cusm! Twins! WOW!

You two didn't mess around now, did ya?


I will do my best to prepare their chart but I take a very long time, especially to interpret the planetary dynamics and detailed aspects. If someone else can beat me to it, then please do so, but like you Cusm...I'll get to it.


All the best brother Cusm and family!
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
21:38 / 10.01.03
Congrats to The Cusm Family!
 
 
mixmage
00:56 / 11.01.03
Indeed.
 
 
Papess
02:15 / 11.01.03
Forgot to ask cusm, but which timezone were the twins born in?
 
 
cusm
14:37 / 13.01.03
First off, thanks to all the support. Y'all rock my punk ass world

As for coordinates May, 40° 30' N 80° 13' W. That's US Eastern time.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:51 / 15.04.03
Hey there -- resurrecting this tread for a quick question: could someone do a reading for me regarding this girl named Terese I met Friday night? Seems like we were practically guaranteed to get together, but I'm not so sure. She's 24 and lives in Astoria, New York, originally from Texas. Did I screw up, or was she never going to follow through in the first place? If I did screw up, is there hope for recouping ground?

Thanks -- just curious to see what this yields. Peace ---
 
 
slinkyvagabond
23:01 / 16.04.03
I don't really know any of you but if anyone wants to practice their skills on me I'd be a willing guinea-pig. I've never had a divination done on me before, except for my own inept tarot readings so I' m fresh. My life right now? Ending and begining: I'm finishing my BA in 3 weeks time and have evil exams to get through. My boy dumped me last tuesday - he's the 2nd guy in a row to completely reject me out of nowhere i.e. I thought everything was going pretty well and was obviously totally out of synch with how they were feeling. Where am I going and what's my fucking damage with men is basically the jist of it. Pm me if you want to do a reading or need more info. I know doing a reading on a stranger probably won't appeal but hell, I'm giving anything a shot these days.
  
 
Quantum
07:53 / 17.04.03
I'll do you both a tarot reading today, but they will be pretty simple (am at work so only have short time and portable deck- the smallest deck in the world, 2cm by 1cm )
 
 
slinkyvagabond
13:27 / 17.04.03
much appreciated!
 
 
Potguns
13:55 / 17.04.03
Where'd you get those teeny tarot cards from? They sound much more discrete / useful than my crowley ones in big wooden box for transport.

Also if anyones got the time for a divination for old pot could ya ask why my magickal world is waning so drastically back into normality? i feel as if after a year of progression one day recently I just lost everything, I cant meditate, nothing works any more. Have I been wasting my time / fooling myself? I dont wanna swamp this thread with requests so I understand if I get no response but I do wanna know about those little tarot cards

Cheers

Pot.
 
 
Quantum
15:34 / 17.04.03
some new age shop, came with one of those minibooks. Called Tarot Nova, simplistic and teensy but fit in half a matchbox! (v.difficult to shuffle as the deck is thicker than it is wide or long) thus a novel style of reading- see which cards flip over while mixing the deck on a table, read 'em on intuition.
Wolf- you and Teresa got the Star, Judgement and the Empress (!) so I pulled a couple more-7 of wands and 3 of cups.
She's clearly a strong personality and probably beautiful- the star indicates optimism (and having looked at the little book it says "You have a chance to start over in long standing situations") in fact looking at the book as coincidental bibliomancy it says for Judgement 'Patience brings success' Empress= 'express your ideas and take calculated risks' so it's pretty clear you're still in with a chance 7 wands= 'faith overcomes your current obstacles, act swiftly to realise your goals' and the three of cups, the final outcome='people around you are seeking encouragement in the form of positive strokes or physical affection'.
Normally I'd go into the subtleties of the reading but what would be the point? Go and get your lovely lady, stop dicking around. Seems to the cards you're practically guaranteed to get together.

vagabond- Ace of swords to start, meaning new ideas, possibly worry and sorrow, beginnings. (most likely a combination of exam worry and boyf sorrow, 'new strife' effectively) Then Strength, 8 cups and the High Priestess (great combo!) indicating your resilience and inner beauty (beauty not beard!) the 8 is your current emotional/relationship situation (feeling alone) the high pristess shows you should be trusting your intuition. Last was the 2 of wands, final outcome, so I looked at the book and it said "Be a willing listener. Knowing what people need gives you an advantage. Help is on the way, even though you have the self confidence to succeed on your own. Re-examine your goals and define exactly what it is you want to achieve." (bold mine) also trust your instincts (again).
So- you have the confidence and strength, but help is coming anyway, trust your intuition and all will be well. Your fears are unfounded.
On a personal note, men always hide the possibility of ditching to avoid the emotional trauma of the build up- I've done it before. It's not your deductive skills or perception that's faulty, they were hiding it from you.

Hope that helped you both and made some sense, it was a lot more coherent than I expected- I'm actually quite impressed by the little book, this is the first time I've used it.

Potguns- I drew one card for you and it was the 9 of swords. That means misery, strife and despair. BUT it is almost caricatured misery, the melodramatic goth-type misery and despair. Many times (with bigger decks ) I have found this card to mean you are blowing things out of proportion. Take a rest, it'll come back to you.
I just looked- the little book said "Depression, suspicion and self doubt cloud your sense of purpose. Don't lose your focus" Hah! This little tarot fuckin' rocks! Do what the book says!

Love you people, you all worry too much. L8r m8s
Qx
 
 
FinderWolf
16:17 / 17.04.03
Quantum -- thanks very much for the reading! Those teeny tiny tarot cards sound really cool!

Very interesting, considering another friend from the board (an Imp-ish lad) did a reading for me on this subject also. What he came up with was the Chariot turned upside-down; that this girl has lots of trust issues and isn't really in a place to date, that she's really wary and not as much of a risk-taker as she presents herself to be.

When I met her, sparks flew and she was very forward, giving me her number and 'double-dog daring me' to call her, saying it was a shame she had plans to go out with friends otherwise we could have hung out right then and there. Of course, she also had a few drinks in her.

I called her a few days later and she sounded very happy to hear from me; she was at the bank on her cell phone, she'd call me back in an hour or so. Never heard from her. Next day, called her back and said "hey, what's up, never heard from you." Didn't hear back. That's when I requested the reading on this thread. Basically, I began to think she was all talk and no action about even going out for a date...maybe those drinks she had in her gave her courage she wouldn't normally have. Or maybe she's a total flirt and player who doesn't follow through with half the guys she flirts with.

So I waited a few more days and then called her at lunch (which was yesterday). She sounded sort of happy to hear from me and said thanks for keeping up with her, she said her life had been crazy since she met me, something about how her head hasn't been on straight, and talked small talk with me for a little bit, but she seemed to be distracted. She then said she was in the middle of lunch with "a very important date" and she wanted to "give full attention to him" for the remaining minutes of the lunch. (she emphasized the words DATE and HIM) She said she had my number saved on her cell phone but didn't actually say she would call me. She ended the conversation by saying "Sorry, bye" as if to say "Sorry, I'm not into going out with you anymore".

Now, who knows is she was really on a date with a guy or if she was with a buddy or female friend and just said that to blow me off? She IS very beautiful and seems strong willed, and she seems like the kind of girl who wants to play hard to get and really make a guy work for it. However, she also has my card with my email and pager number, and I haven't heard from her, and honestly, I don't expect to.

When we met, it was all sparks, sexy, sassy talk like in the movies, and it felt like we were practically guaranteed to get together. Now it seems like she's just a player, or flaky, or her life totally blew up in the past week, or her ex-boyfriend just walked back into her life or something the day after I met her.

The bottom line is she hasn't called me once. We met a week ago. I've done my three tries, and I won't call her again. She can call me if she wants to. If I call her again that's just desperate and looks bad. (Another call would be #4 without a return call. Not good.)

I really couldn't tell what her response yesterday was all about, but it definitely seemed more "I won't call you or go out with you so stop calling me" than "I'm wacked out and stressed and playing hard to get and I'll call you back soon." I stressed out about it for a few days (just cause she was SO sensational when we met!), but after that weird lunch conversation yesterday I've totally let it go, and turned my sights towards other women. And I actually have met some other potential dates since then (magickal focus and willpower has been working in that area lately).

Plus, this girl Terese is a lot younger than me (she's 24, I'm 31), and I've found 24 year old women to be very flaky and have no idea what they want in previous dating situations. Part of me feels if she doesn't even want to return a phone call after being SO into me when we met, then I can forget about her completely; I deserve better than that, all that good stuff we say when we get blown off.

I just post this both as a venting thing and to show how readings can sometimes work, or not work, or who the hell knows what. But I really appreciate the reading. If I hear from her out of the blue next week, I'll think Quantum's reading was the more accurate. If I never hear from her, I'll think Imp's reading was the more accurate. Or maybe both readings are accurate and Quantum caught more of the vibes of when I first met her and Imp got the vibes of her post-meeting self. Ahhh, who knows. But I really appreciate it, folks. Chime in if you feel so inspired -- otherwise, I'll post only if any developments happen in this situation.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:23 / 17.04.03
Damn! I had no idea I wrote so much in that reponse! I just re-read your reading and noted:

>> in fact looking at the book as coincidental bibliomancy it says for Judgement 'Patience brings success' Empress= 'express your ideas and take calculated risks'

So for me, patience would mean just waiting for her to return the ball? Or would patience be yet another go at calling her? I lean towards the former.
 
  

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