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28 Days Later (I WAS SHOCKED AND UPSET)

 
  

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Jack Fear
18:40 / 10.06.03
Still haven't seen it, but it would seem to me (he said, all arrogant and American) that it's always been a part of Britain's cultural identity that it is a land set apart from the main (which has historically been an important factor in the UK's uneasy position within the EU): the simple geographical fact of being an island nation would seem to play a vital role in a people's self-conception, as with Shakespeare's description of

This fortress built by nature for herself
Against infection and the hand of war,
This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in a silver sea,
which serves it in the office of a wall,
or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm,
this England...


Now take that sentimental nationalist claptrap and turn it on its head. If a wall serves to protect, it also serves to imprison: if it is a fortress against infection, it serves also to contain infection.

Or something like that.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:11 / 10.06.03
Photography - beautiful. Vey much like Koyaanisqatsi in more than a few ways, though this actually felt like it had meaning. For the non-London residents, is that big Ferris Wheel in the background so often a part of the dilapidated Milennium Dome project? Seemed like there was implied urban criticism there, but perhaps I'm imagining it.

The Millennium done is in Greenwich, home of GMT, which is a fair bit east of the centre - Jim's parents' home in Deptford is closer to the mark. What you are seeing there is the BA London Eye, sometimes misnamed the Millennium Wheel, which is on the other side of the Thames from Westminster. Unlike the dome, it was pretty much universally hailed as a success, conceptually and financially. It's nice - the South Bank is an odd jumble of styles, but mainly rectilinear, and the wheel breaks it up nicely.
 
 
rizla mission
13:00 / 11.06.03
I was quite disappointed that Jim wasn't killed, though, as that would have been the logical follow-through. It's all rage, after all - told so in the first scene - and so he's 'infected', virus or no, in the film's climax.

Yeah, I still can't get over the ending.. everything's leading up to a brutal Night of the Living Dead conclusion where precisely that happens, to the point where it's about a second away from happening and then..

..happy ending?? fuck off!

It seems so completely untrue of the themes that have been developed throughout the rest of the film.. I'm glad to hear there are a couple of better sounding alternative endings kicking around.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
13:29 / 11.06.03
Excuse me but some of us needed that happy ending- I was absolutely petrified by this film and the ending stopped me from having nightmares about zombies chasing me through an empty city. It was very welcome.
 
 
fluid_state
23:05 / 25.06.03
I think my gf would agree with you, Anna. For my money (or lack thereof, bless the net), I'd have preferred Jim dead at the end. It was all a little too wonderful an ending with him surviving, evidence of the continuation of humankind, the end of the infected...

Very astute, observing that he was "infected" by rage, at least metaphorically. His rage had a purpose, though... as the original infected monkeys must have. It's funny how the zombies really weren't that bad, in comparison to the surviving humans. At least the infected would just rend you limb from limb....

So what happened to all the bodies in London? all eaten? Storehoused in the church by territorial zombies? Why didnt the infected attack each other? What were the zombies after, brains? and why have my girlfriend and I been trying to piece together a FUCKING ZOMBIE FILM for days now?

Damn good zombie film though. Beat Resident Evil all hollow. Weren't those the best zombies you've ever seen?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
05:46 / 26.06.03
I'm particularly interested in American reactions to this- for me, part of what made the beginning so creepy was that I know all those places really well, so the total absence of people was more jarring. If it had been Times Square or something, I wonder whether it would have had the same impact?

(Of course, once they leave London, it could be anywhere, my knowledge of Manchester and environs being jack shit.)

I guess I just love zombies...
 
 
nedrichards is confused
16:12 / 27.06.03
For Times Square empty and without the zombies see Vanilla Sky.
 
 
Odrade
14:23 / 29.06.03
Saw it last night, really liked it, London looked a lot more beautiful than I think I've ever seen it before in the early scenes, and the monkey banging it's fists on the cage in the opening sequence was very cool. Also the zombies were EXCELLENT. Very horrible and animalistic, particularly liked the way they moved.
In case anyone's interested, the ruined abbey they visit is just near me, Waverley Abbey near Farnham in Surrey. I didn't know it featured in the film, just about had a heart-attack when I saw it. It's even nicer in real life.
Compliments aside, was I the only one who thought the script was actually, you know... A bit crap?
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
15:34 / 29.06.03
As much as I liked the story and the acting, digital video to film looks like complete shite in a big theater.

The rain sequences especially looked like there was static instead of rain, and more than a few times, the poor quality of the image on the screen pushed me out of the story. Am I the only one who noticed this? It worked well when the virus was taking hold, as it gave the zombies a "hyperactive/dangerous" quality, but overall, I wonder how good it would have been if they just used standard film.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
16:09 / 29.06.03
re: DV

Just saw this last night and let me proffer a disclaimer that I the most giant wuss when it comes to these types of movies, I spent most of the film curled in a ball with my pinkies at the ready just above my eyelids. I think what the whole DV look of the film did was completely break down the typical rhythms of horror movies (uh oh, it's quiet for 3, 2, 1...BIG FUCKING SCARE), and make the entire film open game for ANYTHING to jump out of ANYWHERE which left me completely defenseless and huddled against my own kneecaps the entire time.

Also adding to this was Boyle setting up the Zombie Terrifyingly Crashing Through Glass Window and then having glass and windows in nearly 7/8ths of the remaining film, with most of the shots composing their protagonists with plenty of window visible in the frame. Thanks a fucking lot.

The sound that goes with DV also helped a lot, because there was so much audible scenery, and once again, anything could be anywhere. I'm thinking of the scene where Jim goes back to see his parents. When he's just standing there next two corpses and there's so much space in each frame in it's got that quiet but not really quiet DV atmosphere, I couldn't watch. I was convinced that they were going to burst to life ("life"?) and he'd have to brutally murder ("murder"?) them.

All in all, I was terrified and impressed.

And I really liked the thoroughly genre come-uppance for the villain, not necessarily situationally, but the rhythm of it (screech-reverse-zombie bang on the glass-reaction shot-smash through the glass-zoom away) was cheer worthy to the max.

To the max?
 
 
Tamayyurt
22:08 / 29.06.03
I loved this film and I loved the opening where Jim walked alone in a city, of course it was completely ruined by 18-year-old children laughing at the site of Jim cock and yelling "Hi!" every time Jim shouted hello. Of course they were all quickly put in their place when the zombie crashed through the window and everyone proceeded to shit themselves.

I think what I liked best about the movie is that that's exactly what would happen in such a disaster. I would be more afraid of the surviving human hordes than the zombies (ok, maybe not more afraid but equally afraid).

I thought it was fantastic.
 
 
dlotemp
23:35 / 29.06.03
Saw it yesterday and loved it, granted I too had fingers firmly latched across my eyes the entire time.

One of the things I was curious about - and perhaps the good folks here can help - was whether the rage virus was an attempt to study human aggression and then create an inoculant? I got the impression that the virus had human rage imprinted upon it, based upon the monkey forced to watch all of the violence. Or was it something else? I heard that the movie was in part Boyle's reaction to Mad Cow Disease and the reaction to it in England, so it's possible that he's trying to discuss something else. But I came away from the movie with the idea that Boyle is trying to distill what is good about humanity, and so the aborted peace inoculant and rage virus seemed liked they could fit into that analysis.


For those of you in the know - I was thinking the movie was something like THE FILTH: total degradation meant to inoculate you from evil.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
20:42 / 30.06.03
Stoatie's wish is my command:

you absolutely HAVE to post your responses to it in the 28 Days thread,

Well, obviously, it was both really fuckin' scary, on the zombies-leaping-through-plate-glass-windows-
when-you-least-expect-it front, and really fuckin' creepy on the psycho-army-dude-who's-probably-been-dreaming
-of-a-scenario-like-this-since-he-chewed-a-hole
-in-his-sister's-used-panties front. I couldn't stop shivering through the whole thing, but then I'm a nervous guy. Personally, I appreciated that the political stuff was in there to support the story, rather than the other way around... that it was protest qua zombie flick rather the other way round... and I don't think it particularly matters what the scientists were trying to do. I liked that there was actually a compelling "psychological" (for lack of a better word) reason for Jim to go into the abandoned gas station, instead of having him just wander in there like an asshole.

I did wonder that no one in England, especially the soldiers, knew how to operate a shortwave radio, but fuck it.

As for New York-specific responses, I don't think there were any, especially. I did think, for a second, of how New York seemed almost completely empty for the week or two after 9/11, but it wasn't really the same kind of thing at all.
 
 
Tamayyurt
23:44 / 30.06.03
Oh and Q, they did set the zombies on fire! The fuckers kept coming.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
01:26 / 01.07.03
Yeah, but they were staggering around blind, and it gave the hyoomons time to do something productive.

Anyway, those weren't REAL zombies, they were just soccer houligans on PCP. Not that that's not scary.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
04:06 / 01.07.03
Have only just now registered previous posts suggesting that Selina should've been more hardcore in the manor sequence. Um, what should she have done? She was just trying to survive, which is totally consistent.

Jim wasn't "infected" with Rage, metaphorically or otherwise. He saw an escape and did what he had to do to get himself and his loved ones out. It was established in the empty gas station that he could be a cold motherfucker if necessary, and Major Whassname clearly saw that in him, too. There was nothing to feel guilty about.

I wonder if Major Whassname would really have shot him, though. What was the point?

The happy ending was perfectly all right with me--all that fucked up stuff did actually happen, after all--but I do wonder why no one tried, like, a satellite phone or a shortwave radio. I suppose Major Whassname was enjoying being the Last Man Alive too much. But, in fact, why weren't Finnish helicopters crisscrossing the island with big banners saying HONK IF YOU LOVE NOT TEARING PEOPLE'S THROATS OUT WITH YOUR TEETH? Or why didn't the US simply nuke the place.

Maybe that would've been impractical.
 
 
Sunny
04:26 / 01.07.03
I liked this one a lot, but the ending was lame, it'd have been alright if it ended with the freeze frame of them crashing through the gates. the ragers weren't really dead though right? they actually died after being shot or stabbed to death. the road-to-hell-is-paved-with-good-intentions beginning was great. the audience laughing at a nude jim was irritating though. I wanna see it again.
oh yeah and if for whatever reason you want to see a empty Madrid watch Abre Los Ojos/Open Your Eyes. which was a lot cooler than fucking vanilla sky, in my opinion.
 
 
videodrome
05:24 / 01.07.03
Jim wasn't "infected" with Rage, metaphorically or otherwise. He saw an escape and did what he had to do to get himself and his loved ones out.

Who said anything about guilt?

But I don't buy it, regardless. In a film about rage, you're telling me that when the one calm and collected dude through the whole thing suddenly snaps, that he's somehow different from all the other rage-infected? Nah. The only difference I'll buy is that his is more altruistically directed, which allows him to control it.

Major Wassname didn't see anything other than a couple of fine-ass ladies that were gonna be momma to his poppa. He didn't see shit in Jim other than a guy who would either cooperate or get in his way.
 
 
dlotemp
11:16 / 01.07.03
Actually, I didn't think he was rage-infected either but I think a case should and can be made that Jim was literally enraged. He's been forced into a situation where he's killed people. He's been dehumanized and he has dehumanized others. It goes against everything he talked about earlier in the film, as videodrome points out. Consequently, he flips out and sticks fingers into eye sockets.

But I think the point is not whether he's rage-infected but rather that he survives the experience. Actually, there's another point which is that Selena has slowly begun to realize that she cares about the world and how a sane person should react to it: not by automatically chopping heads and arms. Getting back to Jim though, he displays an ability to overcome and accept the violence he's done. I'm sure he doesn't like it but, by the end of the film, he's internalized the experience and come to some understanding of the problem. I suppose not unlike how a healthy immune system comes to understand an infectious virus and is prepared for it a second time.
 
 
_Boboss
08:37 / 03.07.03
the film would've been much better if jim had hid himself among a pack of the zombies for storming the mansion rather than him just getting all these commando skills from nowhere. The opening sequence aside, the film would've grabbed me a lot more if the lil girl and the dad had been the centre of the piece. what's sympathetic about a bicycle courier? the bit with ecclestone shooting him just before the end is totally unnecessary. i did like the conceit at the end where 'HELL' + 'O' [where O=compassion] = 'hello' = a touch of friendliness in a hostile land. manners go a long way, even after the apocalypse.

overall the film would've been better if they'd just not shoehorned in a load of guns n ammo n soldiers [didn't mind it in dog soldiers which is fom the outset a far more acksheeyun kinda film]. those things are hardly representative of the british landscape, fighting off zombies armed only with cricket bats would've been better. i did like the soldier who kept calling everyone a cunt though, there's shitloads of blokes around like that.
 
 
_Boboss
07:45 / 04.07.03
and the bit with 'the end is fucking nigh' graffitti in the church - how did anyone get up there to write it? there's no bloody ladder lying around. strange mix of the brilliant and the bollocks this movie. had the misfortune of checkig the dvd commentary by boyle and garland - what a pair of fucking muppets.
 
 
grant
17:00 / 06.07.03
Why *don't* the infected attack each other?

I don't have any problem with Jimbo's sudden "commando skills" at the end - he's relatively smart, less regimented/stir crazy than the troops and he knew the layout of the place inside and out.

I also liked the happy ending, just because it was consistent with him seeing the jet and realizing he had to get the heck out of there.

Just saw it yesterday. Didn't someone here say something about the DV in the first half echoing the surveillance cams all over London? Cuz that's the feeling I got. It seemed different than the second half's look.
 
 
PatrickMM
18:50 / 10.07.03
I saw the film yesterday, and was really into it while watching it. After it's over, I still like it, but I think that a lot of it is about the intensity of being in that moment. The score and music were phenomenal, and the zombie look was great. This had so much more scope than something like Resident Evil, it made it much more effective.

On the DV, from a purely visual perspective, film looks much better. But for horror movies, I think the finished look of film makes it less scary. This didn't look like a typical movie, it looked more real, and that made it more scary. The scarier horror movies are usually made on a lower budget and have an unfinished look, and that fits into this catergory.
 
 
netbanshee
02:46 / 15.07.03
I have to agree with the positive vibe for the film. Nice to see something that isn't trying to be "about" horror and slash-and-hack but an actual film in the genre. Hopefully more to come?

The ending did trip me up a little, but the hope building and human moments spaced throughout the film made me expect a goody-goody ending. Wasn't a complete mess with anxiety levels and drawn out like say "Funny Games," but it was certainly enjoyable and provoking.

I did like the Romero homages, the cheesy intro audio to the shopping scene and the chained zombie were nice. Though I'll take The Goblins for the audio any day...

Also got the Lord of the Flies feel when Jim was hopping around taking care of business. Unbelievable but it fed the need for retribution when the soldiers were being all dodgy with the ladies. But I liked how the tension created by the zombies was transferred back to the living through anger and sexual issues. The thumbs in the eyes seemed very appropriate action to take in that kind of situation.

The DV was a nice choice at parts of the film. Made some parts in the dark difficult to read but enhanced some of the movement in the film. Like the posterized and high-contrast look of the rain as it came down through the floodlights.

Overall, not a bad flick... meakes me feel the need to acquaint myself more with Dawn of the Dead before bedtime.
 
 
Jack Fear
03:17 / 07.01.04
ATTENTION CONSERVATION WARNING: Long, long post ahead. Dubious theorizing ahoy!

Six months late to the party, as usual—but I just saw this on DVD, and it did not disappoint.

I want to look at some points and questions that have already been raised in the thread:

From whence spring meek-and-mild Jim's reserves of violence?
Can we at any point consider Jim to be "Infected," even metaphorically?
Why do the Infected not attack one another?


There's a scene that hasn't gotten much attention in this thread, and to me it's the key scene—the bit at the cheeseburger stand, where Jim wanders off on his own and is attacked by an Infected boy, whom Jim kills, ostensibly in self-defense. When he exits, he is shaky—but does not tell Selena what happened inside.

After this scene, up until the end of the film, Jim does not kill any more Infected.

He does not act when Frank becomes Infected; he does not participate in the shooting at the mansion; during his rampage in the rain, he sets the Infected Mailer free, rather than killing him; he uses Mailer as both a distraction and a hunting hound; Jim kills every soldier he can get his hands on—except the two who have been Infected by Mailer.

Why do the Infected not attack one another?

This film is, as have been pointed out, a parable of dehumanization—a process which goes on at several levels: the Infected become literally unhuman; the survivors must harden themselves to the prospect of violence; the soldiers objectify as Other both the Infected (who want something of them) and the "ladies" (of whom they want something).

And there's something horrible about the glee with which the soldiers mow down the Infected, as if they were playing a video game; something unseemly about the way that Mark gives out a jubilant whoop as the service station explodes; something disturbing about the scene in the never-filmed "Radical Alternate Ending" where Selena is blowing the heads off wandering Infected from a distance, teaching herself to use a rifle—or as if she's playing a video game.

Now, violence in video games is cathartic, and can help you deal with your own feelings of powerlessness and frustration—and it's harmless, because, you know, nobody really gets hurt, do they?

Why does Jim go into the cheeseburger stand by himself? It's a foolish thing to do, given the circumstances: the possibility of finding survivors there is minimal, there's nothing of value to be foraged—why, it's as if Jim wants to be attacked...

Try this on for size: Jim has awoken into a nightmare world. He's lost everything. Selena won't sleep with him, even though he practically is the last man on earth. He feels frustrated and terrified and powerless.

The Infected are the manifest symbol of everything Wrong in his world.
And violence can be cathartic...
And, you know, it's not like they're really human, so killing them doesn't really count... does it?

Maybe Jim walked into that diner hoping (probably unconsciously) for the chance to open up a big can of whoop-ass. That hopeful "Hello?" (which, y'know, was such a good idea back in the church) may as well be a neon sign reading ZOMBIE BAIT.

But when the attack comes, it's a child. Bad enough. But the child speaks—the only Infected in the film to do so.

I hate you.

Now this is interesting, because it does a couple of things. First off, the fact that the boy speaks at all makes it impossible for Jim to continue to regard the Infected as mere objects, or even as "mindless killing machines": he knows now that there is sentience there, albeit crude and one-note. When a school of sharks smell blood in the water, they'll go into a feeding frenzy—they'll bite each other, and some will even bite their own tails, if they get them too close to their mouths. The Infected aren't like that: they retain an awareness of self (I) and also awareness of not-self (you).

Secondly, what he says provides an interesting perspective on the nature of Infection, and the motivations of the Infected. If they retain the concept of Self and Other—I and You—it's no great stretch to extend that to the group—Us and Them. In other words, the Infected have become in effect a clan, a race, perhaps even a separate species—and they are rampant xenophobes. I hate you = Infected hate uninfected. And apparently the Infected can recognize each other on sight: the scene with the full-length mirror made that point—a Siamese fighting fish will attack its own reflection, but the Infected soldier just made a few dominance grunts. Again, the Infected not mindless killing machines like Romero's zombies—they're an angry mob.

(It also served to disturb the hell out of me, just thinking about it: imagine being in telepathic contact with an Infected, hearing its thoughts—nothing but an endless loop of I hate you I hate you I hate you I hate you I hate you. Disturbing.)

After the events in the diner, Jim kills no more Infected. Why?
Maybe Jim has become small-i infected with empathy, or with identification—seeing the Infected as full-blown chronic victims of a "disease" that in most of us lies latent, surfacing only in rare, mild episodes.

Or maybe he feels that the Infected, as in effect a new breed of being, cannot be judged by human standards. I dunno. The Infected kill because they must, because they are compelled by a consciousness that has shrunk to the size of I hate you. They cannot be expected to do otherwise, anymore than a lion can be expected to adopt a vegetarian diet.

Jim does pass a harsh judgment on the soldiers, killing apparently without compunction; retain their full cognitive functions, but have by choice and by design reduced their worldviews to a xenophobic Us and Them—rejecting their God-given consciousness and conscience, dehumanizing themselves on purpose—an unforgivable sin. So he either kills them or engineers for them to become Infected—but never both.

And I would argue that Jim kills with a sense of purpose—the purpose being escape—rather than out of blind anger. Like the Infected, he kills because he must (though his reasons are very different from theirs) and takes no pleasure in it.

I can't help but think of Jim's experience in the diner as a sort of inoculation—or maybe it's the point at which his fever breaks, so to speak, and he goes into remission. It's still a vague and ill-formed idea, but it's one I haven't heard yet.

Anyone have any thoughts?
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
14:17 / 29.04.04
Loved it. What a beautiful looking movie...Gorgeous.

Bit late for this beatdown, I know, but I only just saw this last night. I saw it on VHS, so didn't get any of the alternate endings...is it true that one ending has the fighter plane circle round and shoot up the survivors on its return flight?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
16:54 / 29.04.04
Never heard that, Money $, but that WOULD be the Romero ending they already shied away from... woulda been cool, though.

Jack... VERY interesting. Hadn't really thought about it quite like that, but I had always thought Jim's wander into the garage (which is a key scene in the film however you look at it) would play better if considered as something other than random grumpiness- Selina won't shag me, I'll stomp off in a huff, not actually knowing why I'm pissed off but to prove a point nonetheless- and yeah, maybe he DID want to be attacked.

Like (forget the character's name) Christopher Ecclestone says, later: "Who did you kill?" The killing of an Infected makes you one of "US"... otherwise you don't deserve to survive.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
17:27 / 29.04.04
Shit movie. Blew all it's potential. Even the bits where our 'hero' walks around a deserted London are ruined by the GODAWFUL trip-hop advert music blairing over the top. Imagine how good it'd have been if it had been silent. Go away now Danny Boyle, your number's up.
If you want proper scary John Wyndham style british apocalypsia, try and see the eighties TV show 'Day of The Triffids'. Had me pissing my pyjamas when I was a youngster.
 
 
Morlock - groupie for hire
16:24 / 30.04.04
Ooooh, nice way to read it.

I'd modify it a little though. I think when he walks into the service station he still hasn't quite understood the scale of all this, it's just been a sequence of adrenaline-blurred events. Does he kill any infected himself, before the service station?

I figure he's quiet because he's only just started thinking about his situation properly. What needs to be done to deal with the Infected, and how that reflects on him. He's just had to beat a kid to death with a bat, that's gonna throw you for a bit.

Then, watching the father become Infected, and seeing the behaviour of the soldiers, I figure he accepts the nature of Rage, as something inherent in everyone. And accepts the responsibility for that rage, effectively inoculating himself.

The difference between the soldiers and the Infected is that the Infected are completely consumed by Rage, but even the soldiers don't really control their rage.

The scene where Selena hesitates after all is as much a test of *her* state of mind as it is of Jim's. If she can't allow a second for mercy, perhaps she is little better than the Infected herself.

Hmmm, I'll have to watch it again, don't remember enough of the finer detail.
 
 
PatrickMM
19:06 / 30.04.04
Shit movie. Blew all it's potential. Even the bits where our 'hero' walks around a deserted London are ruined by the GODAWFUL trip-hop advert music blairing over the top. Imagine how good it'd have been if it had been silent. Go away now Danny Boyle, your number's up.

I thought the use of Godspeed You Black Emperor there was amazing, set the mood perfectly. I went out and bought their CD after hearing their song used in that part of the movie (and at the end). I prefer the mood set by using the music there to going for the good, but not as good, mood that would probably be set by silence.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
19:18 / 30.04.04
Fuck me, that's Godspeed..? Bloody hell, doesn't sound like the stuff I've heard, but I stand by my assertation that the movie is a confused mess. But hey.
 
 
swiftd
06:36 / 01.05.04
I thought that all of the scenes with the soldiers, before they express their true intentions, were creepy. The guy cooking in the pink apron, the joking around, somehow got to me, not too sure why. Obviously you would go somewhat crazy thinking you where the only ones left alive on the Earth, but still, everything seemed dangerous there.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
09:24 / 01.05.04
Yeah, my flatmate found the movie terrifying- but only after they arrived at the base. The infected didn't scare her anywhere near as much as the soldiers did.
 
 
Mr Tricks
20:54 / 14.10.04
I enjoyed it... (figured I'd wait till the Haloween season to pop it into the DVD player).

Was wondering about the soldiers myself. They seemed a bit inept and I found myself thinking of the many U.S. reserve soldiers who sort of play soldier one weekend out of every month but beyond that aren't exposed the the day to day rigors of life as a soldiers. I got the sence that many of these troops may have been reservists doing as they were told for lak of a better alternative.

JACK FEAR, excellent observations. Makes me wonder if there's some connection with a victim of the Infection's age in relation to their savagery.Might there be a coment on a person becoming more filled with rage as they grow older in the world as it is?

I thought there was also something to be said with Jim's nakedness towards that end of the film. He lays down with the bodies of all those dead (presumably Infected or dissadents) and arises as a much greater danger to the soldiers. It seemed if he became a sort of analogue of the Infected and the soldier/survivor. The way the camera began treating his movements as similar to that of the infected, stalking those soldiers and such, seemed to realy drive that point home.

That second awakening seemed to parrallel his initial introduction into that nightmare. Hmmm a bit new testament there... coming first as a sheep to be sacraficed followed by a "second coming" as a lion to bring retribution.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
12:41 / 15.10.04
See the soldiers didn't scare me because I found them predictable. There are people you meet every day in the supermarket who are just like them and they might be a little mad but you probably have time to react to them. It's the difference between the drunk guy fighting in the pub and a paranoid schizophrenic in the kitchen attacking his mum with a knife and those soldiers are only the drunk guy. They don't have the force behind them, that pure motivation that is only crazy. I'd rather be shot in the back than ripped apart like food.
 
  

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