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that
16:28 / 04.10.02
Haven't we done all this before on Barbelith? Not that we're strangers to repetition, of course (or that revisiting this is a bad idea, by any means). I got INFP: 78 56 22 11. No idea what I got last time though...
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
16:52 / 04.10.02
Keirsey's "INFP: Healer" profile was so spot-on for me it's scary. Even down to the specifics of my childhood and whatnot. It's like a window into my life. Is...that what all those cameras trained on me 24/7 were about?
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
20:01 / 07.10.02
Oh, and quickie question for the academics, how much is sex and desire a part of the set-up? met a friend of a friend the other day, and within ten seconds of discovering she was doing an MA in my old dept had progressed to crushing over Judith Butler and Patrick Califia-Rice. And have had several conversations with Bluestocking (where are you, anyway?) about how in 'our' academia you're allowed to act like a screaming Osmonds fan about your big academic crushes.... and how much a part of the deal it is!



Is it only cult.studs types that do this?
 
 
Persephone
21:01 / 07.10.02
But seriously, that sounds like our new friend "narcissistic apotheosis" in action...
 
 
Lurid Archive
21:06 / 07.10.02
I think that when I am researching is pretty much the only time I'm not, even distractedly, thinking about sex. Maths is a space for intellect only.

There is a famous story about how there was some opposition to Emmy Noether becoming the first female professor at Goettingen (about 1910). Hilbert, the big cheese at the time, is reported to have said, "The faculty is not a pool changing room".

I was told this story with pride by my lecturers, not because it demonstrates how enlightened Hilbert was with regards to women. Rather, because it demonstrates how he was a good mathematician in placing talent above all else.
 
 
Seth
23:50 / 07.10.02
INTJ, same as last time. For those who know me:

To outsiders, INTJs may appear to project an aura of "definiteness", of self-confidence.

INTJs are perfectionists, with a seemingly endless capacity for improving upon anything that takes their interest.

INTJs are known as the "Systems Builders" of the types, perhaps in part because they possess the unusual trait combination of imagination and reliability.

INTJs can rise to management positions when they are willing to invest time in marketing their abilities as well as enhancing them, and (whether for the sake of ambition or the desire for privacy) many also find it useful to learn to simulate some degree of surface conformism in order to mask their inherent unconventionality.

Personal relationships, particularly romantic ones, can be the INTJ's Achilles heel. While they are capable of caring deeply for others (usually a select few), and are willing to spend a great deal of time and effort on a relationship, the knowledge and self-confidence that make them so successful in other areas can suddenly abandon or mislead them in interpersonal situations.

Many INTJs do not readily grasp the social rituals; for instance, they tend to have little patience and less understanding of such things as small talk and flirtation (which most types consider half the fun of a relationship). To complicate matters, INTJs are usually extremely private people, and can often be naturally impassive as well, which makes them easy to misread and misunderstand.

INTJs enjoy developing unique solutions to complex problems.


They appear to have 'read my mail.'

My managers all seem to slowly realise that I'm best suited to working on short-term problem-solving projects, due to my perfectionism, lateral thinking and attention to detail. I personally see work as a means to an end, which is why I don't pursue a more fulfilling career. As long as it pays alright I'm fine, although I have to admit I've enjoyed running the projects I've been involved with. I'm one of the only people I know (in a work environment) who is able to see things through to their conclusion. Most of the people who manage me don't understand me or half of what I do - they just realise that what I do works well.

My creative endeavours are characterised by megalomania, but without the discipline I'm able to draw on at work. I need to find a way of drawing on this resource in a solo creative context. I'm a good arranger of music, someone who ties together other people's ideas (I work well in a band as long as my workaholic tendencies, attention to minute detail and perfectionism don't terrify the other musicians, who're usually completely the opposite), while my poetry is often purely functional, pragmatic but content heavy, and therefore kinda opaque. I see no reason why my creative efforts have to be accessable: as long as they perform a very specific, narrow job very well, I'm happy for the majority of people to not understand.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
10:38 / 08.10.02
actually, the question of where and how sex, desire and power dynamics fit into working culture isn't at all specific to academic environments... eg seeing as supposedly alot of people meet partners at work, I'd be interested how these play out in workspaces in general...
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
15:30 / 08.10.02
I must say I find it very hard to think of anyone having an crush on most of the historians here, apart from A-M Misra of course - but that's not because she has sexy theories and so on. History theories are generally not very sexy, unless you're doing interdisciplinary stuff. I once read a paper on how footwear affected C18 perceptions of urban spaces which tied into gender issues in the period and that was quite intellectual-crush-inducing. But a crush on Paul Langford? Er, no... so I think it is probably related to one's discipline...
 
  

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