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Sebastian
14:21 / 17.09.02
Okay, I added two more things.

Urban Totems: From Pigeons to Cockroaches. Now what angle could we use?

I would first develop on synchronistic spotting of any life form, from insects to birds and mammals (read: dogs and cats mainly). By the way: have you noticed how we to tend to literally delete them from perception as we are busy in town? The spotting should range from full manifestation, ideally the "Real Thing" seen -and eventually touched-, to spotting it in normal or lucid dreams, TV zapping, magazines, pictures, web searches. The more "random" and repetitive the spotting appears to be, then the more suggestive (for example, if you open a magazine about tech-engineering and first thing you spot is a seemingly out of the place scorpion in a photo, then it is more significant than finding it in an insects' encyclopedia -the exxon tiger doesn't count in oil magazines of course, unless someone forgets the magazine in the bus). If you just happen to find while channel zapping a special on the Discovery dedicated to your probable totem, and then it suddenly appears in your favorite comic book issue of the week, that may be it.

Then, from the spotting comes the relation. Fixed gazing with the animal/insect/totem should be seeked, or at least tested. If the totem stays quiet under your gaze or makes anything out of the usual take it as an indication, unless a bee sprangs like a missil to your eye, which would be an indication anyway. Touching it would be of course the indicative peak (a skiny dog doesn't count if you are eating a hot dog): a bird stands on your arm more than it eventually would, a spider crawls comfortably through your navel and drops a tiny speck of shit there, a butterfly stands on your hand and stares at you. It may be a plus if somebody hanging by notices it. And by the way: don't go crazy with flies, everybody knows how they behave, so if you want to become Lord of the Flies better do something really way out of the norm. Eat them.

Also: about dogs and cats, these can be your totems, but bear in mind you don't have to do with them what people is already doing: having them as pets. A magickal dog or cat would never become a standard pet. Pets can be seen as the totems of "consensually-agreed-normal" urban life (just go check Norman Rockwell pictures and see what are animals doing there). This does not discount that if you already have a dog or a cat you can develop a totem relation, but remember: treat it as a magickally equal being, you have to give it its own space for magick, so let it be, don't take it to the psychologist in your spare time. Potentially, your own dog or cat is the most suitable partner to start with, unless he is a caniche, or any of those breeds genetically desigend to support and embellish "dull-normal-life" (which we may eventually need more than we think, by the way). Also, I once visited my aunt in Berkeley and just by walking a single block I practically saw an entire zoo: from serpents to monkeys, all of them well fed pets hanging by its owners, so check how "normal" those things are at each place. Serpents are cool urban totems, but it relies on you, its owner and feeder, how magickal can the relation turn out to be.

Then follows the "now what?". Through any altered state you are familiar with, start operating, interacting with the totem. Check encyclopedias, dictionaries and symbolism, but don't buy into everything they say. Check comic books also, especially characters that already have their own totems (yes Batman is fine, but go read about urban bats also, unless you want to end up as neurotic as Bruce Wayne). And, of course, find out for yourself through an altered state. Invoke it, meditate on it, telepathically talk to it, create a mantra, a sigil, a logo, a T-shirt, a belt, a neck lace, as much as you like. Don't use drugs, in general, until you are thoroughly familiar and friendly with it. And don't loose your pants with any specie. I don't know if it is our own mirrored anthropocentrism or what, but, if you honestly ask them, all of them will want to get you jumping around the city saying "I am a snake, I am a snake, psssssss", or whatever the spirit (gee, just like my human familiy). So, if you have trouble with this and Papa-Cockroach is asking you to enact The Metamorphosis with you as Gregor Samsa go take a course on managing relationships, elegant persuasion, powerful communication, or whatever you already know you need to deal better with humans and spirits. Start with humans, please, and in your own daily life. Take a course on dealing with hostage situations and then go to work, or pay a visit to your monstruous uncle. Appear to be at ease anywhere and with anybody. You have to be the ultimate urban-samurai in this sense, strategic, elegant, and negotiator, as best as you can. Learn all urban jargons as possible, but with direct experience (check that forthcomming chapter). In short, if you can't approach a beautiful chick on the street or your president's company in the elevator without mumble speech, then don't try it with Cougar-Spirit.

Briefly on possession, you may be asked to go through it, sometimes very evidently, and its okay, but remember, unless you were born in Haiti and saw it happen every month since you were a kid, it is likely once its over you'll end up banging the doors of a hospital asking for assistance, so proceed with caution, and have prepared beforehand a good banishing technique.

Last word: pay attention to the seeming highly unlikely at first sight, especially if you already have a life long totem everybody heavily relates you too (you look and smell like Sabretooth, you have whiskers, long and sharp nails, you usually reply in grunts, and you also display the freakish egotistical behavior of a cynic loner, "I work alone, grrn!"). This is because you will always draw to yourself the counterbalancing archetypes, and of course you will dismiss them as completely unrelated to your ego. A dog may come, a horse, a bird, insects, reptiles, pay attention to apparent random redundancy, so clean yourself a little, learn about other behaviors, become a little more "ant", more "spider" like, before you get shot in the middle of a glamorous jump.
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
19:42 / 17.09.02
excellent post/chapter.

I'll find my introduction.
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
20:25 / 17.09.02
Urban Mage

Urban Magick starts with the realization that the city is alive. A vast organism made up of sub organisms. You are a cell in the body of the city. To take the metaphor further the roads in the city are its veins and we merely carry nutrients. Forget the metaphor for now. The city is alive, start from there.

Magick in the city is about making a relationship with this life form and the other life forms around you. Then you engage in some quid pro quo. Do them a favour and they will do you one.

Part 1: Learning the city

1. Meet your city
go for a walk
ride public transit
drive its roads

2. find its power spots
look for leylines
investigate its history
get the feel of these spots
leave a mark you can link to

3. Find its hidden self
go to abandoned and forbidden places
find the city?s sorrow
visit the city?s twin in an altered state of consciousness

Part 2: Contacting Intelligences

1. Astrally visit the ?center? of the city

2. contact modern elemental/ godforms

3. gain a totem animal or familliar

Part 3: Using the city

1. Divination, use the language of the streets.
images seen from the bus
interpret bird droppings on statues
read the graffiti
listen to the street sounds

2. Enchantment
chalk sigils on the walls and walks
use a talisman to link to your power spots

3. Sorcery
use other peoples junk for sympathetic magick
push rusted nails through pop tins
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
20:41 / 17.09.02
Revised content

Urban Mage
by The Barbelith Magick Collective
foreword by Grant Morrison (i wish)
1. Magick is Life in a living city.
2. The clock on the temple wall.
3. Subways, highways and leylines.
4. Abandoned areas, mystic sub-worlds.
5. Urban Totems: From Pigeons to Cockroaches.
6. Respecting steel gods and glass elementals.
7. Listening to the streets: Divination.
8. Rusty nails in pop cans sorcery in the trash.
afterword by Robert Anton Wilson (i wish)
 
 
Sebastian
12:00 / 18.09.02
I've been pondering about including chapters, or at least mentions on:

Urban Transvestim, considering for example Morrison's account as how he went into transvestism, and that some shamanic traditions include this as a practice for some apprentices and sorecerers, we may find out more people that explored this experience with a magickal end, or we either go and do it ourselves,

&

Comic Books, simply because you can not conceive urban life without them, or, better, them without urban life, and also given all the magickal sources of inspiration and actually workings that you can find in them, such a chapter would include a bibliography on books that address magick directly, a brief defintion on hypersigil, and much of what is being currently posted at Can comic book be a magic tool ? and related threads such as Invisibles as magic.

What you think?
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
00:53 / 19.09.02
Well those are excellent topics to include in some way...

problem is how to include them. How do we edit the contents to cover these issues?

a chapter/section on urban media?

current chapters 5 and 6 could be condenced into one chapter to make room
5. Spirit in the city, a search for intelligences.
6. Urban media, how they say it.
 
 
iconoplast
01:23 / 19.09.02
I remember the first horoscope I ever read. It was in the New York Press (Free Will Astrology is now in the Village Voice, for the record). It went: Here is an old rosicrucian manifesto for you: I vow to interpret every event in my life as a direct communique from God to my soul.

The horoscope went on to sugest that I interpret sign on the sides of a passing bus as oracular wisdom, and snippets of overheard conversation as pithy omens.

www.inpassing.org is a great example of how cool this can be.

But - in a city, however it is that you talk TO the city, there are lots of ways for the city to talk to you. This is kind of situationalist stuff. Cut ups, Found objects, overheard/misunderstood remarks, &c.

I'd like to see something like this in the chapter on divination.

(I remember when I lived in Paris, McDonalds was doing some Monopolyesque promo that had the names of Paris metro stations on the stickers. My friend ate at McDonalds at the airport before arriving to visit. He wanted to visit the metro stations he'd drawn. We just ended up getting drunk, though.)
 
 
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03:02 / 19.09.02
Hi, I haven't posted here in a long time. Anyway...

I've read the book "City Magick", thought it was great. I loved "The Invisibles" too, esp. the first 4 issues with all the city-magick stuff. Whenever I go out into the city for magic work I wear a pentagram necklace I got at my favorite CD store (to get into a magical frame of mind). When I do this I visualise that everything is new and exciting... I imagine entire kingdoms of insects going about their daily business. I imagine plants and trees having conversations. Streets and pathways become exotic passageways to exciting places. In my head I change the street names sometimes. The campus store becomes a castle.

Coincidentally, I think crows are guardians at my campus. I always see them like sentinals on tree tops and street lights (we have a LOT of crows at my campus). Sometimes I leave snacks for them in hidden places. Crows are my totem animal. Sometimes all I have to do is think of the name "Macha" and I can get them to follow me wherever I go, or I visualise one flying to a certain spot and they'll fly there a second later. You know Tom O'Bedlam and how he summoned a pigeon over to him with that hand motion? I tried it with crows one day and it worked, to my surprise (didn't swap eyes though).

Wherever you are in the city, find an animal common to that spot and be sure to acknowledge it's presence.

Or do what Burroughs did and tape record traffic noise and listen to it at night for secret messages.
 
 
Saint Keggers
03:59 / 19.09.02
Well I havent read any of those books due to the fact that my win the lotto magick isnt working right now.
The only vaguely cityfied magick ive done is bus calling.
I stand at the bus stop and say "the bus better get here by the time I count to 10 or there's gonna be big trouble" (I picture big glowing fists banging together). I then slowly count down up to 10 and do the 9, 9 and 1/4, 9 and 1/2, nine and 3/4...just to let the bus know how generous I am. While counting I visualize the bus turning onto my street. And 90% of the time the bus arrives before I get to 10 or just a few seconds after. This is really impressive (in my opinion) as I can do it even on days when the bus isnt running. It also works with the metro (subway, tube).

Also if we do publish a book, website..can I do the illustrations?
 
 
iconoplast
04:06 / 19.09.02
Lighting a cigarette works really well for buses, taxis and (if you can smoke in the terminal) subways.

Hell, I think we should have a chapter on cigarette-magic.
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
05:01 / 19.09.02
Sypha Nadon: When I do this I visualise that everything is new and exciting... I imagine entire kingdoms of insects going about their daily business. I imagine plants and trees having conversations. Streets and pathways become exotic passageways to exciting places. In my head I change the street names sometimes. The campus store becomes a castle.
Excellent way to get into and stay in the magickal frame of mind. Although I've rarely done this purposely I find this is what I find myself experience when I am in my magicself. At UBC a university I spend some time at,(not in school) squirrels are the local wildlife.

Kegboy: I then slowly count down up to 10 and do the 9, 9 and 1/4, 9 and 1/2, nine and 3/4... And 90% of the time the bus arrives before I get to 10 or just a few seconds after.
I think this is clearly an example of time magick. Also an example of how "common" time magick is in a City. Illustrations. Good idea, although doing illustrations will make the book more expensive to produce. If we can do illustrations we should take submissions from everyone who contributes here. I want to draw to you know! ;>

iconoplast: someone else on here talked about the same idea. I don't remember his barbe-name but here is his webpage about that sort of thing.
 
 
at the scarwash
05:13 / 19.09.02
Offering a cigarette to the gods of mass transit works pretty well it seems. I've also tried using expired bus transfers to summon tardy rides to work, with a little bit of success. Maybe.

Or maybe the bus just came.
 
 
Saint Keggers
05:30 / 19.09.02
"I think this is clearly an example of time magick. Also an example of how "common" time magick is in a City"

I always thought of it as more Force of will magick. X= how much I currently hate waiting for the bus and Y= modifiers to that (snow, rain, fucking freezing my ass off) and Z= time the bus would normally take. If I can get X+Y*MAgickal intent>Z= successfull spell working.
 
 
De Selby
07:08 / 19.09.02
The chapter on "Urban Media" should include Pop Art, and Advertising cos thats definitely one of the methods of communication for a city. Also, the flavours of culture that spring from a city. Like, Gangsta Rap in LA, or Illbient in New York, etc

I'm liking this book, more and more...

(Aside - Kegboy: You mean (X+Y)*Intent rather than X+Y*Intent, right? That's exactly how I see it! Although... I guess its an obvious analogy.)
 
 
Sebastian
11:36 / 19.09.02
God, this is going to be like a bible... okay, okay, I didn't mean it.

Anyway, I was thinking about "the book" in itself. For example, maybe we can manage to get each chapter no longer than four to six pages, with an immediate mind-boggling or at least mind-teasing effect. Fenris initial chapters could then be turn into sections or parts as necessary to make the material we have distributed in chapters. I am currently reading Quantum Psychology by RAW and it is written sort of like this, avoiding heavy theorisations and classifications, which makes it more appealing to the reader, and each chapter is quite consistent and self-conclusive in itself, while the whole book still reads sequentially as a whole.

I do not mean by this to leave anything aside, but to simply structure each topic and its subtopics so that they fit in an easy read chapter average five pages long, plus-minus one. If each chapter has its own core, development and conclusion, the reader gets the sense that he is learning pieces of something, no matter if the book is as big as a Dostoievski's novel and he is only reading it fifteen minutes a day.
 
 
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16:26 / 19.09.02
I mentioned making the world around you seem new and exciting. This of course can applied to the Situationists, but I like to use the cartoon Calvin & Hobbes as a great example of this. Readers of this cartoon will note how Calvin changes the boring world around himself (using only his imagination) into fantastic worlds, then visualises himself in these worlds. Shit, look at the name of the final Calvin & Hobbes collection: "It's a Magical World". In fact the final line of the series was "It's a magical world, Hobbes old buddy. Let's go exploring."

Apply that theory to the boring or mundane world around yourself. Make your world magical and magic will happen to you.
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
20:55 / 19.09.02
Sebastian: For example, maybe we can manage to get each chapter no longer than four to six pages, with an immediate mind-boggling or at least mind-teasing effect.
I had to get out my copy of Quantum Psychology to understand what you were saying at first. But this is a great Idea, damn there goes my funny chapter names. Or maybe here comes a lot more of them. Each topic gets its own chapter. Discussion of the idea, how it works, examples from our lives. And excercises? Damn I was going for special billing as the editor but your going to out do me.

Sypha Nadon:Apply that theory to the boring or mundane world around yourself. Make your world magical and magic will happen to you.
All you really need to know about magick. =^)
 
 
ciarconn
21:07 / 19.09.02
I woudl like to see some on the Crow and Dove zones in the cities. I am conected to crows (the local smaller variety: zanates). And I have trouble with doves, why are they so territorial? What meaning/function do birds have in the magical system under the city?
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
21:52 / 19.09.02
The grafiti on the walls, the crazy shit that the bums and crackheads and the wild kids come out with. This is the underground data exchange: the INFRANET. The city is the hardware and people are the software.

-Grant Morrison, The Invisbles Volume 2 Issue 11
 
 
brokenlink
02:11 / 20.09.02
a little late, but what about "upper layers"?

we're living 'cybernetic' times, why don't the obvious metaphor of the net? i like very much the pre-situacionistic concept of 'psychogeography': what 'makes' the city is the traffic inside it, the movement within. as if the city was a big brain with lots of electric bolts running across its gray matter: ideas! nazca lines: enormous dynamic sigils!

(brasilia, brazil's capital, viewed from the top, looks like a giant plane)

interrupting/corrupting/transfering/hacking city traffic is extremely
powerfull - imagine turning it off (like what happens during world cups: the city is freezed, facing tv screens): streets are empty, leylines are free!

what we can't forget is that nowadays city traffic is much more organized (burocratized) in the upper digital/spiritual layers. that's why strikes and 'reclaim the streets'-like things aren't as much effective as they used to be

but that doesn't mean streets/buildings completely lost their importance. spirit is still binded to matter: all net's infraestructure lies imprisoned in *servers*. all outputs are in a way or another analogical. think magic as psychossomatic operations: wi-fi, for example

(about undergrounds & dark reflexes, give a look at gaiman's neverwhere )
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
06:46 / 20.09.02
I had originally included this in the book's contents but I didn't want an encyclopedia so I dropped this chapter.

This topic alone could be a book... Maybe our sequel?
Technomancy by the Barbelith Magick Collective?
 
 
De Selby
07:01 / 20.09.02
This topic alone could be a book... Maybe our sequel?

Woah there Bessy. I think we're getting ahead of ourselves. Maybe we should stick to writing one thing at a time?

either that, or think in terms of hollywood scripts and plan a trilogy!

but I digress...
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
07:37 / 20.09.02
I was just suggesting that techno magick is to big to include in a book about city magick, otherwise we will be writing the tome sebastion is worried it will become.

Still Technomancy, is a cool Idea if this project is successful.

The third book is Revolution and the Pandaemonaeon: Immanetizing the Eshaeton by the Barbelith Magickal Collective. But that will be after the revolution. ;^>
 
 
ciarconn
01:44 / 21.09.02
I have been working on getting in touch with the dove totem (going slow but good) and perceiving the magick flow of the city (not much success, or not much flow)

Haven't managed to find the thoughtform of my city.
 
 
De Selby
15:33 / 21.09.02
ok... what about we have a set of steps or instructions or whatever, that people go through, and we keep a record of results. The important thing here would be working to achieve a set goal.

I'm just thinking that maybe we could have some results to work off of, and to dis/prove theories...
 
 
ciarconn
02:31 / 22.09.02
Coordinating our magickal experiments? Something like the modern magic lesson threads? I agree, and I would like to participate.
I have been working on getting in touch with the dove totem, and getting attuned with the magic of my city.
 
 
Sebastian
00:53 / 23.09.02
About end-chapter exercizes.

I personally do not like to read in books the "if you don't do the following exercises you'll remain the idiot you already are", mainly because I believe in the transformative power of reading, and also because most book-related changes and transformations in my life came from reading either plain fiction or convoluted study text-books. Much to my disillusion, I really do not owe anything of significance to the "do so and so" texts on my shelves.

I would like however to keep at the end of each chapter here a section that would take the place of Wilson's exercizes, portraying paradigm-teasing questions, coloquially powerful comments, or single line proposals, in straight relation to the chapter's content, and directly addressed to the reader, that is, written in the second person. It would be rather an invitation the reader starts looking forward to at each chapter's end, a "just read-me" section -not a "condition-to-do" section-, because it would work by merely reading through it, just as the written word is precisey intended to do. Also, second person writing has an effect we could exploit on this closures, since it gets to develop a book-reader relation that is sometimes absent in straight first person books.

Examples for the chapter on totems would be: "Which animals or insects were precisely passing through your mind as you read the above chapter? Did you think of them or they just "came to your mind"? Which of them do you usually encounter in daily life or dream with? What would it mean for you, now, if you come across or dream with one of those, just after reading this chapter? Would it be magick or mere coincidence?"

I am not particularly inspired, but the section could be titled sort of "What about you?", or "Think about it", "Magick and You", nah, that sounds terrible, we'll see...

"After-Thoughts of an Urban Mage"
 
 
ciarconn
02:43 / 23.09.02
Well, I was thinking, in Chaos magick terms, which godform would help me to get in touch with the spirit of my city?

Hermes?
Haephestos?

The god of the cities

Jack Hawksmoor (from the Authority)

Spoke with Him, got almost instant results in perceiving the magick of the city.

By the way, Is there any point on the railroads that cross some cities?
 
 
the Fool
05:02 / 23.09.02
The gods of the city

why just have one? I've been making up some city spirits. Here is a first draft...

Ineoria – the neon goddess, blinding spirit of illusion and delusion and direction. Beautiful and fragile. She dwells in a delicate pocket universe atop a pile refuse. She is a beacon in the darkness but offers no sanctuary. She can guide from afar, show the way but will not interfere. She is a goddess of signs, truth and fiction intertwined. She cannot be touched by human hands.

Groghuh – the rubbish spirit. Like Ixat (lord of taxis) Groghuh is a keeper of secrets. Things discarded, things lost. He has a great treasure hoard beneath every city. Like dragons of old. He often appear as a drunken bum, in filthy clothes and rotten teeth. He finds beauty in the mundane, magic in the unwanted. He brings solace and sanctuary to those who have no place left to go.

Cthaaanhiss – traffic spirit. A strange creature who dwells in the hum and flow of traffic. It is road rage, it is traffic lights that all turn red, it is congestion and delays. But it can also remove congestion, to those it favours. Speed the passage between locations. A strange temperamental creature, given to foul moods and irrational behaviour. Like liquid it flows, it cannot be still. Stillness, silence is Cthaaaniss’ death.

Ixat – the lord of taxis. Knower of secrets, mover of people. Ixat knows all the secrets told to taxi drivers everywhere. He knows all the secret locations in every city, he has been to them all. Ixat has secretly tamed Cthaaaniss, through unknown pact. He moves through traffic with ease, but only when he wants to. He knows mainly through whispers and confessions, so his information is not always to be trusted.
 
 
gravitybitch
14:19 / 23.09.02
I just picked up a book called The Situationist City by Simon Sadler. (It's not cheap, I won't recommend anybody else picking it up unless you've got disposable income.) It looks like a great source for ideas about finding the spirit of a city and pulling the magick out for others to experience.

My first project here is applying cut-up theory to a map of San Francisco for divinations... I also want to find the courses of the streams that used to flow here, lay those over the map and compare to bus lines and traffic arteries. Does anybody know about ley lines in SF?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
15:00 / 23.09.02
Metropolis = Necropolis: Ultimately, Every City Is Built On The Dead

London is a good example. Economically and politically, you could say that London is built on slavery and murder (past and present). I'm thinking more of the dead that are present physically, buried under the pavements and roads. Graves, plague pits, more graves, the various times that the entire city was burnt down by invaders or its inhabitants, even more graves, ect etc. King's Cross rests uneasily on the ashes of Londinium.

How might a city's dead play a part in urban magick? Discuss?
 
 
ciarconn
15:50 / 23.09.02
When I read of the map of SF, I remembered what I dreamed yesterday, while I was sleeping besides the central railroad of Guadalajara. I saw in the dreams (while I was talking to Hawsmoor) that the railroad crossed Guadalajara (Northeast to southwest) and made it look like the backbone of a human figure, that he formed with the map (it looked like a ragdoll). I had always thought that the backbone of Guadalajara would be la Calzada Independencia (crosses the city from north to south, and it´s built over the bed of an old river). I will have to work on that.

On the issue of death, most american cities have a strong relatio with that, Mexico city was built over the ruins of Tenochtitlan (and the aztecs had practically a cult of death); hell, the cathedral was built with "recycled" stones from the major temple from the aztecs.

I do not know how common the custom of "emparedar" (leaving a person inside the walls of a building, to have his spirit as a guardian of the place) was in Europe. Here in Mexico, there are a lot of legends from XIXth century buildings with people emparedada.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
04:28 / 24.09.02
IXAT and I have worked together successfull for a while although now I'm a fairly rural area.

THE MAN and His shadowy nebulous Authority has been successfully Evoked by a friend of mine.
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
00:38 / 25.09.02
iszabelle: I also want to find the courses of the streams that used to flow here, lay those over the map and compare to bus lines and traffic arteries.
Good idea this is definitely something that I would suggest as an exercise. This would be one way of looking for ley lines. But this is one that denies the city as city sort of thing. By looking for the nature that preceded the city we are still trying to perform nature magick.

The Situationist City by Simon Sadler looks good, I might dispose of some income on it.

Mordant C@rnival: Metropolis = Necropolis: Ultimately, Every City Is Built On The Dead
Excellent... Maybe this could work in a shamanic "levels" system. How many cities are in your city? The mundane city, the twin city, the forbidden city and the dead city.

the Fool: The gods of the city why just have one? I've been making up some city spirits. Here is a first draft...
Well your right there is no reason why there should only be one. However my thinking is that {on top of, in addition to} these there is also the spirit of the city as a whole. This doesn't preclude various sections of the city having their own {gestalt, spirit}. For example The Bronx, Uptown, Downtown, Chinatown; each could have its own self and be part of the cities uberself.

Also there is no reason why each {reader, mage} shouldn't define {his, her} own {spirits, gestalts}.
 
 
gravitybitch
00:56 / 25.09.02
Hmmm... I'd been considering the original waterways idea as one source of input out of many, rather than as a base to start from... and, since SF is not that old as cities go, I think it's at least somewhat valid as an input... If I knew of fault lines actually running through the city I'd include those as well, may see if I can lay hands on a map I'd seen right after the '89 quake that labeled the different soil/rock types in our little 50 square miles. (Buildings built over bedrock, soil, or fill each have different chances of surviving a big quake more or less intact; a definite consideration to city life here!) I suspect that in general, Nature should get a little acknowledgement in urban magick.

Is there any record of ley lines moving depending on changes in population density or land use?
 
  

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