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bjacques
22:16 / 24.01.03
Give Sean Connery some credit for having a wife who's actually close to his age. Whatever they do LoEG, as long as the movie succeeds on its own terms, that's fine with me. If early reviews indicate it does, I'll definitely see it.

But the "fanboys" have a point, up to a point. Moore should at least try to get his work in the hands of a director/producer who respects it. As in not giving some LA band a cameo in Victorian (Edwardian?) garb because their lead singer is giving some studio head head. Some of the comic may not work or be way too expensive to film. A good and careful director will try to interpret it in a way that makes sense. Better if the original writer has a hand in it, and can work with the movie people. Even if they don't agree, the result should show that care was taken.

LoEG is going to be difficult enough with a competent director and actors. If this craps out, the mainstream critics will savage it--there's no Tom Cruise or Steven Spielberg to wield media access as a threat--there won't be anything left for the fanboys to pick over. Moore will become box office poison.

I'm not an X-Men fan, but I've got the general idea, and I thought the movie was fun to watch, anyway, even with the Magneto backstory thrown in. Why can't people just be evil? Tim Burton's "Legend of Sleepy Hollow" bears little relation to Washington Irving's short story, but I thought it was a great movie in its own right. Whereas Jay Ward will suffer eons from the TWO Rocky and Bullwinkle movies (the first one was sort of watchable).
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
11:19 / 25.01.03
God.

No, the fanboys do not have a point. The fanboys don't have a brain between them. The fanboys, for the most part are egotistical geeks who want everything done exactly the way they want it right goddamn now.

You think Robert Louis Stevenson would have appreciated League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen's take on his Jekyll and Hyde characters? No, he would have thought it was childish bilge, and almost completely unrecognisable from his creations. "Hang on," he'd think, "my Edward Hyde was a short man, almost a dwarf, with an air of sickness and yet at the same time enormous muscular power. He was disgusting to look upon, and gave everyone who laid eyes upon him cold shivers. What the hell's this eight-foot-tall green ape-thing?!"

Friends might have taken him to one side and attempted to explain the comic-book mythos of the Incredible Hulk, and how both stories resonated with many of the same themes, persuading the writer, a Mr. Moore, to 'update' the Edward Hyde character, and make him more of a beastie. Much as friends of Mr. Moore might well take him to one side and explain that it's Steve Norrington's movie, using one hundred million of Hollywood's precious dollars, and they've paid Mr. Moore for the privilege of adapting his comic to the screen and it's ntohing to do with him so why the hell doesn't this lanky limey hairball shut his goddamn mouth before he gets sued or something.

Fortunately, there's no need for Moore's friends to tell him anything of the sort, because as an intelligent man of the world, he already knows these things, and sold the rights knowing he'd never have any input and not particularly wanting any. See, it's not his movie. Alan Moore doesn't direct movies. Do you see? He writes comics, and a few other things here and there, but no movies yet! None!

You may feel as if you've been cheated of an opportunity to see a great LOEG movie. But you have to remember that this is actually nothing to do with you. Hollywood does not care if every LOEG fan in the world boycotts this film, because they, and you, aren't the target audience. Give it up. Move on. If your interest is sufficiently whetted by trailers, TV spots or documentaries or early reviews, by all means go and see it. Just remember it's not Alan Moore's movie, and it's not yours either. He (quite rightly) doesn't give a toss what it turns out like, so why the hell should you?
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
12:50 / 25.01.03
And I'd just like to point out to Rosa that the story that the film seems to be working on follows vague hints that Moore has put in those interminable guide to the weird places in the world chapters at the end of each issue of volume 2 so far.
 
 
Mystery Gypt
23:31 / 25.01.03
Moore should at least try to get his work in the hands of a director/producer who respects it

nah... you got it wrong. Moore specifically gives his work to Don Murphy, who is a producer widely respected for doing good work and for being a true fan of comics and supporter of comic writers. see also, morrison's film produced by murphy.

more interesting words about murphy here.
 
 
CameronStewart
00:02 / 26.01.03
Yeah, but Murphy produced From Hell, which, despite all the reasonable points raised by JTB above, was a spectacularly dreadful, pointless, and ill-conceived adaptation of the comic.

As I suspect LoEG will be.
 
 
000
00:44 / 26.01.03
Yeah, but Moore & Campbell wrote and drew From Hell, which was a spectacularly dreadful, pointless, and ill-conceived adaptation of true events.
 
 
Axel Lambert
01:24 / 26.01.03
Huh? Come again?
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
16:14 / 28.01.03
Can't believe i'm the only one who knew about the 'surprising ending' - don't you guys hang around other sites besides barbelith?

Oh well, the movie is gonna be crap so it well deserves it

Then again, what's the spoiler - that Moriarty is the main villain of the movie - you should actually be thankful, for all of you who were complaining about the movie changing so much stuff; now it seems it's not gonna change that much after all, and that's why it's gonna suck

Without Dr Fu Manchu and his flying fortress, they might as well have made a new story - which is what's happening, anyway - and use new characters - which is also gonna happen: Tom Fucking Sawyer and Dorian Grey, anyone? - and then they wouldn't have to pay Moore the rights.

What they're buying is only the title of the book, so that all fans will go see it, nothing else: in the words of Alan Moore, concerning From Hell: It's not my book; it's their movie - well, it wasn't until he decided to sell the movie rights without caring about they would make out of it.

So what matters the ending anyway? Who were you expecting the villain to be, Keyser Soze? Or perhaps the League would find out they had been dead from the start - it's an action movie, what do you expect?

But you're all right, i recognize i should have put the word SPOILER before giving the big ending away.

Luis
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
16:27 / 28.01.03
And I'd just like to point out to Rosa that the story that the film seems to be working on follows vague hints that Moore has put in those interminable guide to the weird places in the world chapters at the end of each issue of volume 2 so far.

How could that be, Flowers? The scrip was written - and rewritten - before the second volume.

Plus, the script review i read explains the movie is about this guy called Phantom bent on - careful, this might be a spoiler too - RULING THE WORLD. Where did i see that idea before?

But then again, i really hope i'm wrong, because a trip around weird places seems more interesting than a madman wanting to rule the world... again.

Where did you read about that, Flowers?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
16:59 / 28.01.03
about this guy... bent on RULING THE WORLD. Where did i see that idea before?

LOEG Vol 1, perchance? Or did you read the alternate version, where Fu Manchu gets into amusing scrapes whilst attempting to get to work on time?
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
17:28 / 28.01.03
Pff. You dudes have it all wrong. You realize that Moore is a real, living superhero, don't you? And his beat, his Gotham/Metropolis/Hell's Kitchen, is the comics industry? I believe he is hoping to crash & burn the whole stupid superhero movie meme before it completely corrupts the industry. He's done it before with memes that were hurting the industry, as when he embarrassed those MacFarlane-led jerkoffs into hiring some writers. It's like, McFarlane was Dr. Doom & now he's going after the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. Or maybe, McFarlane was the Spymaster and now he's after the Red Skull, which would make him Captain America -- that works a little better for me.

Okay, I'm kidding a little, but really, Hollywood is bad for comics and I do believe Mr. Moore is striking a blow for freedom here.
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
17:53 / 28.01.03
Randy, Vol.1 one was about two crimelords wanting to control the East End - sure, the use of a flying fortress wasn't the subltest of ways, but it's not explicit that they want to rule the world, only kill each other for the dominion of a small part of London.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
18:18 / 28.01.03
Domination of other races - and, therefore, the world - is Fu Manchu's one desire. It's as much a part of the character as madness is a part of Griffin. Everything he does is towards that one end. Moore undoubtedly chose to use him for a number of reasons, but one of those must be his implicit aim of RULING THE WORLD. There are other characters he could have chosen if he simply wanted a localised crimelord.
 
 
Axel Lambert
12:59 / 01.02.03


Film logo
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
14:15 / 01.02.03
La-a-a-a-ame. Lamer than Shaq on the Cartoon Network.
 
 
CameronStewart
15:13 / 01.02.03
Oh my god, that logo is the worst that it could possibly be. LXG???
 
 
Axel Lambert
15:21 / 01.02.03
Apparently, Mina Murray is not the team leader in the movie (it's Quaterman), and she's a real vampire. Oh god.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
09:27 / 03.02.03
Heh heh heh. I'm telling you, Alan is doing this on purpose. With magic. To save comics.
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
17:26 / 03.02.03
What's the matter, Jake? Don't you like the changes?

Careful, mate, around here that's considered a very 'fanboy' attitude.
 
 
Hieronymus
12:33 / 04.02.03
This was on today's Dark Horizons:

The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Wizbang talked with Shane West recently about the changes between the comic mini-series and the final film adaptation: "The script is really very different, but it's great. The characters are the same, and the graphic novel gives you a good point of reference. [Its] a shame we could not shoot the film as written [in the comics]. But if we did, I don't think we would make any money at all. But it would be a cool movie. Part of me would like to see the comic book as a movie - a literal version of it. I'm sure many people would, and yet in this climate and time, you have to find some middle ground". He also revealed a bit about how his character of Tom Sawyer will fit into the action: "Mina Harker (Peta Wilson), Dorian Gray (Stuart Townsend) and I have this romantic triangle going on. You don't know which guy is going to end up with her or if anyone's going to in the end. Or even should...I think [Norrington's] intending to do an untraditional vampire. [Mina's disease] kind of takes her over when she actually goes into the vampire [state]. It's furious. Really animal. I mean, it's PG-13, but it's really furious. So Steve's doing many different things to create that. There are all kinds of visual effects. I also have this amazing costume, which has all these wires coming out of it, with these long tendrils of black silk. When the Cirque du Soleil performer or I move in it, there's this flurry effect. It looks like a bat".


Long tendrils of black silk? Ruh?
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
12:38 / 04.02.03
Wow, a film with a love triangle! Can't wait to see how that turns out! Will Mina Harker go with the American cop or the immortal bisexual murderer? And a vicious bloodthirsty vampire! That's a new one. Dude, I'm so stoked about this!
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
19:22 / 05.02.03
I also have this amazing costume, which has all these wires coming out of it, with these long tendrils of black silk. When the Cirque du Soleil performer or I move in it, there's this flurry effect. It looks like a bat".

What the hell? Who is he supposed to be? Count Dracula?

And a love triangle? But would a woman really be in doubt between a young detective and a rich, beautiful man like Dorian Gray?
 
 
MJ-12
10:34 / 06.02.03
Well, if Sawyer and Gray ended up as the ones who paired, that would be different.
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
12:50 / 06.02.03
Well, if Sawyer and Gray ended up as the ones who paired, that would be different.



If a flying fortress running on carvourite won't make a movie profitable, you think a homosexual relationship would?

But to be honest, i would pay a ticket to see that.
 
 
gridley
13:18 / 06.02.03
I'd fork over good money to see "Catamites in Cavorite" or even "My Big Gay Flying Fortress."
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
15:34 / 06.02.03
Ext. Night: Moriarty floats away into the night sky.

MORIARTY:
(clutching Cavor's ball to his breast, weeping)
I love my dead gay flying fortress! I love my dead gay flying fortress!
 
 
Hieronymus
14:43 / 10.02.03
Okie dokie. Here's a link to the trailer, bumpy though it may be.

Let the fanboy comparisons begin.
 
 
CameronStewart
15:22 / 10.02.03
Do you think it's a bad sign that the logo and tagline in the trailer uses the same font as Batman & Robin?

Well, I dunno. It looks pretty rubbish to me...
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
15:40 / 10.02.03
Bwah hah hah! Hyde looks awesome! And by awesome I mean terrible. And by terrible I mean bad. Bwah hah hah hah!

Dorian Grey looks kinda cool, but do they really need him & Griffin both?
 
 
Jack Fear
16:52 / 10.02.03
Nope. Which is probably why there's no Griffin in the film.

I wonder how many of these changes were creative license, and how many were related to rights issues? i.e., is there an Invisible Man film in the works somewhere, and is that why the decision was made to substitute Dorian Gray for Griffin?
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
18:34 / 10.02.03
Nope. Which is probably why there's no Griffin in the film.

I wonder how many of these changes were creative license, and how many were related to rights issues? i.e., is there an Invisible Man film in the works somewhere, and is that why the decision was made to substitute Dorian Gray for Griffin?


Don't worry, Jack; he simply goes by another name: Rodney Skinner (and The Invisible Man is in the trailer).

If i'm not mistaken, the studios that produced the classic movie, The Invisible Man, still owns the copyrights of the character. That's why that recent movie, The Hollow Man, with Kevin Bacon is Hollow instead of Invisible - you see, it's okay to use any invisible man people want in movies or books, as long as it's not The invisible man.

Alan Moore got away calling his own 'Hawley' Griffin - rememeber, in the original Well's novel, he only goes by the name of Dr. Griffin; this way, Moore avoided any direct comparison, and a lawsuit.

Sad it didn't work so well with Dr. Fu Manchu
 
 
KING FELIX
18:36 / 16.02.03
ELL EXX GEEE

badam

new trailer
 
 
Mazarine
18:44 / 16.02.03
I saw the League trailer today while seeing Daredevil, and the LXG thing had me going fetal with laughter, as did the fact that they're driving what looks like a spare car from Dick Tracy. I'm still gonna see it, because it honestly looks like it has almost nothing to do with the comic.

It will probably be a pretty bad adaptation of the comic, but it might still be a good movie on its own.
 
 
CameronStewart
20:28 / 16.02.03
I'm trying to imagine what I'd think of that trailer if I *wasn't* aware that it was based on Moore and O'Neill's book. Maybe I might think it was kind of cool.

Unfortunately I DO know the source material, so this just looks like a colossal piece of garbage, no matter what Mystery Gypt says.
 
 
Saint Keggers
00:29 / 17.02.03
Well I've never read the series. But when I saw the trailer all I could think of was "OMG That looks soooo frummage!" Total cheesefest!. I looks like one of the commedy episodes of Buffy. I cant wait to see this monstrosity come to life.
On the plus side it does make me want to go out and find the LoEG comics...
 
  

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