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Hellblazer - Azzarello a close second?

 
  

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Jack The Bodiless
23:27 / 11.10.02
The point is that Constantine is all things to all people. Every writer can feel free to have their own interpretation, without pissing on the flowers that the previous writers grew. That means that he can be whatever you need him to be. Ennis still wrote my favourite JC, but I identified with him more. The stories weren't nearly as adventurous as Delano's, but Delano couldn't bring out half the potential in his own stories that he promised. Classic Morrison syndrome, in my opinion. Ennis promised exactly what he delivered, and occasionally threw JC's most powerful moments at us almost without meaning to (the story with the ghost of the WW1 pilot, to name one).
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
07:33 / 12.10.02
Jenkins is a very odd comic book writer, in that when he does small, character based stories, he does quite well. However, dealing with the lead character or having to do comic book type stories, he falls flat on his face, as if he just doesn't have the skill to do it.

His Hellbalzer struck me as it would have been a very good book if he didn't have to have JC in it.

I must admit, I'm fascinated by the idea of JC as "Everyman" and a character so pliable that he can become whatever he needs to for the writer...as well as the idea that Delano's stories weren't as good as they should have been. I look at Delano's stuff as a step in the evolution of comics. At the time, this was DC doing a spin off of the Swamp Thing book, John Byrne was doing Superman and the Atom was getting a monthly book around the same time, and here comes this very dark, very political horror series.

One proposal I read that wasn't accepted was to turn JC into a very horror themed comic along the lines of making him more of a version of the "mystery host" of DC's 70's comics where he would slowly become a bit player in the book, and having him "show up" where Bad Thing Happen. The more I think of it, the more I like that version of JC for current times as we become more and more vouyeristic. It would also dovetail with the idea of JC being an everyman of his times.
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
19:20 / 12.10.02
You mean like the bad craziness still leaping out at JC around every corner and him actually being able to resist getting involved? That's an interesting take. The whole of the book, I'm beginning to realize, can be seen as a nifty take on the discrepency between intention and its ultimate result. JC usually gets involved in the shit because he thinks he can do some good. And it usually blows up in his face. Would a refusal to act give him a chance at a normal life? Would he be able to live with himself?
 
 
The Falcon
01:17 / 13.10.02
About Jenkins - he seems a writer very capable of in-depth character moments (a skill more suited to a period middle-English novel/drama) but utterly disabled as regards writing action/excitement scenes, which are something of a necessity for me in comics.

Particularly Spider-Man.

However, a lot of comics/comic writers seem to be espousing more pacifistic methods/less violence.
 
 
PatrickMM
22:40 / 31.05.07
I've been interested in reading the Ennis run for a while, but the TPBs were incomplete, so I held off. DC has just announced a new trade of most of the uncollected material:

HELLBLAZER: BLOODLINES TP
Writer: Garth Ennis
Artists: Will Simpson, Steve Dillon, Mike Hoffman, Mike Barreiro, Kim DeMulder and Stan Woch
Collects: HELLBLAZER #47-50, #52-55 and #59-61
$19.99 U.S., 296 pages

But, what's the deal with the missing issues? IIRC, he didn't write #51, but why cut out #56-58? Are they collected elsewhere or is it simply DC being annoying?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:06 / 01.06.07
Perhaps these were issues that laid bear Garth Ennis' own issues - his problems (sexual, intellectual, artistic and emotional) - to a degree that DC now find uncomfortable?

If so, that's one decision it's hard to fault them for.

Certainly if Dynamite!(!!) felt the same way, the world would have been spared the latest issue of "The Boys", and that could only have been a good thing.
 
 
Mr Tricks
16:54 / 01.06.07
But, what's the deal with the missing issues? IIRC, he didn't write #51, but why cut out #56-58? Are they collected elsewhere or is it simply DC being annoying?

Well it looks like issue 56 was collected in the TPB Rare Cuts
 
 
sleazenation
10:40 / 02.06.07
With the help of the Hellblazer forum it appears that the missing uncollected 2 parter are issues 57-58 "Mortal Clay" and "Body and Soul" a story about balistics testing on corpses.

I actually have a copy of issue 58 and it's quite fun Ennis and Dillon stuff, can't see why it's uncollected, but then again I can't see why the recent collection of Jamie Delano stories reuses a Glenn Fabry coverfrom Ennis run either...
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
16:53 / 02.06.07
Because Fabry covers sell and much of the art from the Delano era wasn't all that hot.

Speaking of the Delano era... anyone else interested to see that Andy Diggle has brought back immaculately-dressed smooth operator Constantine?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
17:45 / 02.06.07
Yeah, that was a nice touch. It seems obvious, and quite right for the character, but no one's really thought to do it in over two hundred issues, beyond the odd smartening-up after a particularly heavy session on the ales or in the spirit realms. Hopefully it's at least a semi-permanent change, as I think I might actually be interested in this series again, after years of buying it on and off out of habit. Even the art seems to work better without the ongoing film of grime, chip-fat and ethereal darkness.
 
 
Shiny: Well Over Thirty
18:58 / 02.06.07
I'm interested in seeing where Diggle's runs going, and I'm certianly not hating it thus far - which in and of itself comes as a surprise, because by and large I have hated most of what I've read from Diggle.
 
 
Essential Dazzler
09:22 / 21.08.07
Bloodlines has just been re-solicited with #47, #48 and #50 now omitted.
 
  

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