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The Dignity of Difference

 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
09:49 / 27.08.02
Chief Rabbi Sacks has spoken out, and written a book proposing a road to peace.

May I propose that we all read his book (I believe titled "The Dignity of Difference") when it comes out next month?

Interview.
 
 
grant
15:02 / 27.08.02
But biology and economics were not enough for Sacks. He wanted an argument that would persuade the three great Abrahamic religions - Judaism, Christianity and Islam - that difference is a virtue. Since orthodox religion is responsible for so much of the world's bloodshed, with September 11 only the most obvious example, it was no good coming up with secular, rational arguments for diversity. He needed a proof that would come "from the heart of the whirlwind". He went back to the sacred texts that the three major faiths share.

Sacks looked at the first 12 chapters of Genesis, before Isaac and Ishmael part: the symbolic moment when Judaism and Islam begin their separate journeys. "The key narrative is the Tower of Babel," Sacks explains. "God splits up humanity into a multiplicity of cultures and a diversity of languages." God's message to Abraham is: "Be different, so as to teach humanity the dignity of difference."

That may sound like a statement of the multicultural obvious, but the chief rabbi knows that, for the orthodox faiths, such talk marks a profound shift. Instead of the familiar notion of "one God, one truth, one way", Sacks is claiming divine approval for human variety.



That's a very interesting take.

Of course, it could be pointed out, that the scattering of Babel was a punishment. It was a sort of recapitulation of the Original Sin, falling out of unity into division. Or rather, cast out.

Hmm.

He definitely sounds like someone I'd get along with, though.
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
21:45 / 27.08.02
Alan Watts' The Book On the Taboo of Knowing Yourself (I think I'm citing that right, but I might've screwed it up somewhere) starts with a parable he tells his children: God was very lonely, so Ze split Hirself up into billions of people, and plays a hiding game with Hirself. Every part looks for God in just about every manner possible before realizing that they are a part of God. Eventually all the billions of parts of God have this epiphany, and God becomes whole again. Then the game begins again. So I think this illustrates why it's best to keep in mind this is all a game, which is why the interpretation of Babel being a punishment is the interpretation of a pawn in a game rather than the player of that game. I wonder if Sacks might employ that citation in this book.

Of course, you just know there are going to be some who reject this book outrightly since it's written by a Jewish cleric. Sigh... and so the game continues...
 
 
SMS
22:24 / 27.08.02
I like this suggestion very much.
 
 
Bill Posters
11:36 / 28.08.02
Me too... though I have a feeling that it's a bit naive.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
17:10 / 28.08.02
I'll certainly look out for it, but not being a Jew, Christian or Muslim, I would be suspicious if he chose to work with just those three.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
17:11 / 28.08.02
... And according to that interview, Sacks doesn't seem to mind if his road to peace leads through the odd battlefield.
 
 
Persephone
17:16 / 28.08.02
I think that I would like to read this book, but I do not want to be rapt about it --do you know what I mean? I don't want to take my head out of the book and go around saying We can have world peace, yes we can ...if only all the people of the world could be convinced of this one thing! And I say this because I have such a horrible tendency to do this at any given moment. But I think it would be a very interesting challenge to think critically about a subject such as peace. Are you going to set a date for discussion?
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
17:35 / 28.08.02
Well, the book comes out at the beginning of September, and I'll start talking about it when I've read it. Anyone who wants to can join in or beat me to the punch.
 
  
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