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THE PRO: Just one question....

 
  

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Murray Hamhandler
18:34 / 20.08.02
I don't think I've read anything from Ennis or Ellis since the wrapup of Preacher and the halfway mark on Transmet, respectively. I used to read everything they did back in the day, but their stuff appeals to me very little nowadays. It induces yawns. "The Pro, eh? Go to it chap. (yawn)"
 
 
houdini
21:12 / 22.08.02
Yeah, I thought this was pretty blatant knobspawn, myself. The ur-source for all this material is, of course, none other than Harlan Ellison's dead-on 'Man Of Steel, Woman Of Tissue Paper', featuring the memorable phrase "simultaneously blow her head off, while gutting her like a haddock. Those of you who can't guess what this is describing should probably go back to reading 2000AD. This essay was also the originator of much of Brodie's talk about Wonder Woman's uterus in Mallrats. But the difference is that I enjoyed Mallrats for all of its infantility, whereas this leaves me lukewarm.

Preacher by turns enchanted and enraged me. Ennis is very good with dialogue and pretty handy with characterization. And, once he'd proven his ability to be "bad" he let up a bit and got on with some pretty interesting storytelling. But at the end the whole thing kind of failed to be a story about a man who wants to take God to task for the inherent shittiness of the universe and turned into a kind of warped 'The Road To...' movie with Heaven and Texas as interchangeable destinations and lots of rubber violence. Oh well.

DC/Vertigo recently reprinted Ennis' 'Goddess' series from early in the '90's and I made the mistake of laying down hard cash without flipping through it first. It's kind of proto-Preacher without any of the saving graces.

Bit of a shame, really.
 
 
Jack Fear
22:46 / 22.08.02
Three factual errors in one sentence.

Larry Niven. "...Woman of Kleenex." And "trout," not "haddock."

No, I didn't have to look that up.
 
 
houdini
16:46 / 23.08.02
Wow. That's what an eight year gap filled with recreational chemistry will do to a once-barely-adequate memory system.

Mr Fear, I award you a bonus 50 pedantry points. Congratulations, sir.
 
 
GuitArWoLf
02:59 / 29.08.02
Whats with all the Garth Ennis bashing? I can only assume that no one here liked Preacher, Hitman, his run on hellblazer or Punisher, or any of the other things Garth Ennis has done. True that Ennis has lost his touch in some of his newer projects, but he is still alright.

Plus when picking up a comic called The Pro and it has a woman half naked on the cover, what the hell do you think you people are gonna get. This was not meant to incite intelligent debate or blow you away, it was meant for a fun read, nothing more. If you want something that is more dense and intelligent try reading the Invislbes or something.

Guitar Wolf
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
05:10 / 29.08.02
Well, since the abstract talks about how much the book sucks...

I found it mildly amusing, and in a lot of ways, an exploitation comic book, just like the old exploitation movies of the 50's and 60's. It promiced a lot more than it gave, it suffered from pedestrian execution, but it said it was a comic about a prostitute who became a super-hero, and that's what you got. No difference in my mind between this book and the old Hershal Gorden Lewis "Blood" movies of the 60's.

But I got a HUGE laugh out of the dedication.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:16 / 29.08.02
I must correct myself: the creators of THE PRO did indeed do some fundraising for the CBLDF.

As for this:

True that Ennis has lost his touch in some of his newer projects, but he is still alright. ... This was not meant to incite intelligent debate or blow you away, it was meant for a fun read, nothing more.

Which is exactly why I didn't pick it up. I do not have time to fuck around with Art that is "just all right," with "fun reads" and "mindless entertainment." If a piece of Art does not have something New to say to me, it Need Not Apply.

This is because I am Old, and will be dead soon: and so the little time that remains to me is precious.

As for you: you're not so young anymore, either.
 
 
The Natural Way
13:21 / 29.08.02
BigMan Fear provokes much headnodding in notsoyoungrunce. Fuck "alright".
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
17:41 / 29.08.02
Jack...you're lying, I AM as young as I used to be. I am I am IamIamIam.

*sobs*

*listens to TMBGs "Older*

damn you...damn you all to hell....
 
 
Jack Fear
18:14 / 29.08.02
Mother, I can feel the soil falling over my head...
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
18:34 / 29.08.02
I haven't read it, though reading this thread makes me feel as thought I have. Still, I'm trying to figure out why I have no problem reading stuff like JLA or the occasional superhero trade with characters like Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Batgirl et al, yet feel deeply uneasy about Vertigo putting out a T&A book like 'Codename: Knockout'. And I feel similar unease about something like 'The Pro'. Is it just because the superhero comics pretend to take things seriously and just happen to have well-endowed women in them, while these two are actually pointing out the stupidity and saying "Yes! She's got long legs and tits the size of a small European city!"? Jack Kirby's ruined my ability to form normal relationships...
 
 
sobel
21:09 / 29.08.02
One word to say to you Fear:

Fundo
 
 
sobel
21:13 / 29.08.02
oh man I picked up that codename knockout for research dolphins and boyoboy that is one poor picturegasm - real stinker - (pinch nose) pooooey!
 
 
The Falcon
00:00 / 31.08.02
Not to inspire debate, but I got Punshisher #13 today and had a good disposable laugh-fest, for £2: the price of a ten-deck (of fags.)

Woe is me! I later realised it was not art... and threw it to the floor, screaming words of hate. Etc, etc.

Kids buy this, you know. I think that's funny. More should.
 
  

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