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Interview with Grant Morrison

 
  

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Sam Lowry
23:08 / 02.08.02
A very cool interview, indeed...

http://www.sequentialtart.com/gmorrison2.shtml

(sorry, my html-fu is weak...)
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
06:21 / 03.08.02
This is one of the best Morrison shit I've read in a lot of time. Covers a lot of (theory) topics and we can see baldie opening himself like a book - with both feet on the ground in one moment and in the other my mind is swirling with reality molding talk.

All his interviews do this to my head. I must be a fucking GM meme host.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
17:21 / 03.08.02
Thanks for that Brazilian-one. I agree that it's one of the best Morrison interviews I've seen in a long while, he is certainly engaged in it too, not so bored that he's chucking in jokes about rape thank god...

Not a lot that's new in there, but a more detailed and thought out version of some of the things he's thrown about in recent years.
 
 
Spaniel
17:34 / 03.08.02
Always nice to read an interview with ol' GM, although mostly reiteration with minor expansion.

Must get boring taking about the same shit.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
21:31 / 03.08.02
Are you Barb, Lada? You're welcome. Nice job indeed. I'm spreading the link everywhere.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
02:12 / 04.08.02
"It's very simple. I have a diagram."

Ladies and gentlemen, this is my new catchphrase.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
10:02 / 04.08.02
A bridge of events.

l et g: it's about time.

Words rool dough nnnn tih thae?
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
14:31 / 04.08.02
Vortex Are you Barb, Lada?

Nope. Are you?
 
 
lentil
00:54 / 05.08.02
Can anybody explain to me what the "superman incident" he refers to was?
 
 
the Fool
05:01 / 05.08.02
Can anybody explain to me what the "superman incident" he refers to was?

Morrison and Waid had big ideas for the Superman books. Thought they had it in the bag after the JLA run. DC changed their minds at the last minute. Morrison not happy, leaves DC to do X-Men.
 
 
DaveBCooper
13:02 / 05.08.02
That’s a really good interview.

Loved his comment “I believe utterly in the 'reality' of fictional characters and assume that they all exist independently of my imagination with needs and requirements of their own, like Buddhist tulpa thoughtforms. I've always felt that my best writing is more like channeling the voices and adventures of real characters doing this stuff in a real place - the comic as it exists in the future perhaps. Call me crazy if you like but it's working very well for me so I'm unlikely to be convinced at this stage that my conclusions are mistaken”

Makes me feel less embarrassed about feeling the same, as well as my teenage belief that when I put on an album on some bizarre level the musicians were actually playing it.

DBC
 
 
Shortfatdyke
17:41 / 05.08.02
"I believe utterly in the 'reality' of fictional characters"

when creating a sculpture, i heard the way to look at it was to believe that whatever you were making was already there, inside the clay, and that all you had to do was take off the excess. it's only occurred to me now (because i agree with the quote above - the characters i've created are out and about, doing their own thing now that the story i needed them for is done) that this could apply to writing, which would of course mean the opposite of the above: that the stories and characters are already out there, and all one has to do is tap into them and put em on paper. as i say, i don't believe that, but i wonder who, if anyone, works on those lines.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
18:46 / 05.08.02
Probably not in the psuedo-mystical sense that Morrison seemingly can't help putting across... but I do think that you have to know more about the characters and situations than is necessarily going to be included for the work itself. It helps when writing dialogue, for a start, if you can see and hear the character saying those words in your head... then you'll know how another character will react to hir, and after that I tend to find certain scenes writing themselves.
 
 
The Natural Way
07:23 / 06.08.02
Alan Moore works in the same way, SFD.

So many similarities, so much antipathy.....
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:27 / 06.08.02
I miss Grant's JLA and all the lunacy that went with it.

"Clark, stop staring at it! You're rupturing the 37th parallel!"

"Whoa! Did anyone else feel that? WE JUST LOST THE SECOND PRIMARY COLOUR TO THE MIND-VOID!"
 
 
uncle retrospective
20:45 / 06.08.02

But back to the interview.
Cam can you tell anything about LeSexy? Seen the script?
Talk to us, were all friends here....
 
 
CameronStewart
00:55 / 07.08.02
I can not tell you any more about LeSexy because I still haven't read it yet. All I know is that it's a black comedy full of grotesque characters, along the lines of the League Of Gentlemen, and that Karen Berger thinks "it doesn't have any sympathetic characters."

I hung out with Grant very briefly at the San Diego con this past weekend, but being in a public place with him makes it nearly impossible to carry a conversation - every 5 minutes fans come up and want to talk to him or have their picture taken with him or what-have-you. We were supposed to go out for dinner one night but due to some miscommunications regarding the meeting place (he thought DC, I thought Marvel), it didn't happen.

Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but if you look at the newest Abercrombie and Fitch catalogue, there's an interview with Grant (!) in the back (and a Brian Azzarello one with new illustration by Eduardo Risso a few pages later).
 
 
Sebastian
11:05 / 08.08.02
What's the "Superman Incident" he mentions??
 
 
Spatula Clarke
12:39 / 08.08.02
The Fool's already answered that one, a few posts up.
 
 
houdini
03:17 / 14.08.02
Morrisson-Moore antipathy? Did I see that obliquely mentioned a coulple posts up? I've long suspected that there might be something of that sort going on. Anyone got any enlightenment to shed?

Actually, back when Dave Sim and Alan Moore were having their post-From-Hell chat about what would happen to morality if we could run time backwards (and when Sim was perhaps equally bonkers but a bit less fascist) I wrote Sim a long letter, covering AM-GM antipathy amongst other topics. Sim ran it in the Cerebus lettercol and gave lengthy discursive replies to basically all the other content. Always intrigued me....
 
 
The Natural Way
07:43 / 14.08.02
Well both are VERY conspicuously absent from each other's comix chat.

Which is weird considering they're both old 2000AD heads, they're both magicians, share similar cosmologies and are the number 1 players in their chosen industry.

I think Morrison slagged Moore off many moons ago, but someone else here could probably tell you more. Alan isn't exactly the most forgiving type.

There's also a fundamental philosophical rift there as well (inspite of and quite possibly accentuated by the aforementioned similarities): Morrison's very left hand path, chaotic, pop....a real neophile; whereas Moore's right hand path-y, structured, ye olde man of the tomes....not exactly neophobic, but not exactly big on the "self disintegrating pop overdrive" thing that fuels Morrisons work (which sometimes feels kinda slight and ephemeral in contrast with Moore's weighty, monolithic prose).

Moore's a magus in the old style, John Dee-ish way, Morrison's the 70s me-quest put through a time accelerator.

Love them both - they both fulfill different runceneeds.

But, personally, I'm sick of listening to Morrison making snide references to "writers who're into that whole retro thing" and Moore's refusal to give Morrison any acknowledgement whatsoever, even when he's called upoun to list the writer's he finds most interesting/important in comics (when most of those he does check absolutely suck and don't have half the imagination or passion Grant has).

And don't write Sim letters. He's a bad man.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
08:18 / 14.08.02
I'd like to get them together to discuss..........

things.

and then make a book out of it.

and then sell it.

to you.
 
 
The Natural Way
09:02 / 14.08.02
I'd buy it.

But only if, by the final chapter, the nicey, nicey discussion had devolved into a fight (with fists. guns are for cowards, as we've established [thankyou Batman and team F.I.S.T.) long ago), complete with ringside photos and everything.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
10:12 / 14.08.02
well if Ho garden gets involved your wish will come true.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:35 / 14.08.02
Hang on, so Moore isn't allowed not to like Morrison, and if he fails to cite him as one of the most important writers in comics today, he is doing so purely out of perversity, especially if he *does* mention writers you don't like as much as you do Morrison?

W00T! D00D!
 
 
Sebastian
12:52 / 14.08.02
The funny thing is that if they really don't read each other then they are really missing the great comic-book writing of the moment. I simply can't imagine GM not enjoying reading at least The League, or AM not enjoying the whole Hand of Glory thing in Invisibles Vol.2.

And the sad thing is all about the misperception they both appear to have of what are and are not valuable and long lasting comic-books that will prove to survive the decades to come as unique and pivotal pieces of the genre, as some of their own works already have demonstrated to be.

About the retro and the neo aspects of their works, despite the strong retro flavour AM works do have and beautifully exploit, they are decidedly books of today that by no chance would have been conceived to be published twenty years ago, no matter how you cherished to read them, today they are new, and GM on the other side, no matter how new and vanguardist his topics and stories appear, his story telling is mostly supported by an amazingly (and exquisitely) classical story telling that is what simply puts him in the category of the most accomplished writers and story tellers we have been delighted to read for centuries, from Stevenson to Doyle, to name only two handy ones, and its a breed that of course also has AM in its ranks.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
13:09 / 14.08.02
in fairness to morrison he does namecheck moore a fair amount - gives due respect etc. okay, he'll diss watchmen from time to time and I know he once said that league of... was just treading old ground (I agreed with him at the time too) but the problem really lies with Moore.

He's a egotistical twonk a lot of the time and his 'Vertigo was inspired by a tuesday afternoon wank 'n tea session I once indulged in' line is tired, uninformed and a bit northampton-ee quite frankly.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:15 / 14.08.02
I knew you'd pipe up w/ that stuff, Haus. I knew it was WRONG, but oh, I couldn't help it....shame on me! Fie! Fie!

To put it another way (or rewind right back to the beginning of my second to last post): it does seem a little weird that Moore would fail to check (or even mention) Morrison considering all the things they have in common (two high profile writers w/ similar worldviews, attempting to spread the same magickal paradigm in a relatively tiny medium) and, well, I may be wrong, but it just seems to me that he has a bee in his bonnet about something.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:19 / 14.08.02
And I completely disagree w/ this idea that Morrison's story telling/narrative style is even remotely classical. JUST. NOT. TRUE.
 
 
the imp of change
14:22 / 14.08.02


Why is Dave Sim a bad man?
 
 
The Natural Way
14:32 / 14.08.02
Women. He hates women.

Because he has a bum for a head.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
14:53 / 14.08.02
We really should endeavour to get these two together.
 
 
Jack Fear
15:00 / 14.08.02
Dave Sim? Not a bad man, no. Not evil per se.

Just crazy, is all. Crazy as a shit-house rat.
 
 
Abraxas
17:01 / 14.08.02
In light of a possible GM-AM antipathy I remembered that Grant in nearly all of his early interviews left no doubt that it was Alan Moore’s work in “Warrior” (namely “V for Vendetta” and “Marvelman” [re: Miracleman]) that convinced him you could get away with challenging and interesting stories in comics. Grant even drew a Kid Marvelman cover for issue 4 of the Scottish comic fanzine Fusion in 1984.

What intrigued me was that I recently came across an interview with “Warrior” editor/publisher Dez Skinn in George Khoury’s highly insightful “KIMOTA – The Miracleman Companion” where the following comes to light:

“Khoury: You mention that Grant Morrison wanted to do a Marvelman story for Warrior.

Skinn: He did one – a brilliant Kid Marvelman story. Nobody had heard of Grant back then. Grant came in at the tail end of Warrior and wanted to try his hand at “Marvelman” as Alan Moore had stopped writing it. […] Grant did submit a Kid Marvelman story, about a discussion between Kid Marvelman and a Catholic priest, and it was quite fascinating because Kid Marvelman argued a very good case against organized religion. Nobody was flying, no beams from anybody’s eyes, but a bloody clever script, clever enough that I sent it to Alan Moore for his opinion. Alan’s reply was, “Nobody else writes Marvelman.” And I said to Grant, “I’m sorry. He’s jealously hanging on to this one.” Grant did have an answer, but again, I shouldn’t really speak for him.”
 
 
houdini
18:16 / 14.08.02
Storms, teacups....

Personally, these two are two of my favourite writers in comics. The fact that they don't like each other (allegedly) is no surprise. Remember how you react when someone says to you "You'll just *love* my mate Kieth, he's *just* like you..." and you immediately think "Wanker"? Sure there's a little bit of that going on.

On the Sim subject: It's just a shame. Cerebus should be the absolute titan of the field. 23 years of continuous comics from one creator. Should be mindblowing. But the rampant sexism and (more recently) right-wing ranting have dragged it down interminably. I used to be able to justify liking Sim to people with the "He's my own personal P.J. O'Rourke" line, but nowadays all I've really got is inertia.

I'm waiting till Cerebus finishes before I make a final judgement on whether he saved it or not.
 
  

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