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New X-Men #133

 
  

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CameronStewart
22:44 / 17.10.02
Bleh.

I'm with Flux - I didn't enjoy this story at all. I miss the early issues, when it felt like a progressive X-Men comic. The book's called NEW X-Men, right? New look, new direction. Cut the dead weight loose.

Between Quicksilver's costume in the last issue and the inclusion of fucking Rob Liefeld characters in this one, I'm losing interest in this book at an alarming rate.
 
 
Mr Tricks
23:12 / 17.10.02
I dunno...
I thought the Liefield charactors were a great gag, particularly how they where contantly bounching around in very IMAGE sort of way, while everyone else stood and talked.

& I figured Thornn is Wolfsbane renamed.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
23:45 / 17.10.02
Nope, as it turns out, Thornn is Feral's sister.
 
 
Ethan Van Sciver
01:11 / 18.10.02
Those X-corp members were all Grant's choice. I don't really know anything about them, or didn't prior. I read all of the earl X-Force issues in prep. But since a lot of them were Liefeld's, I thought it would be fun to actually do them pretty much exactly the way he used to do them. Big shots, jumping at the camera, etc. I read a review in which someone said that Feral looked ridiculous. Well, that's how she looks. Her hair is her trademark.
I'm speculating, but I'm not sure that Grant was aware of the history of those characters when he wrote them in. I think he was just using the characters nobody else seemed to, in the hopes that some of the old fans would cheer. (He sometimes even uses the phrase, "Big Cheer here" in his plots.)
By the way, to go off on a little tangent, I want to say that just because Rob Liefeld or Jim Lee created a character, and they may not be perceived as progressive or cool now doesn't change my attitude towards my responsibility to their creations one bit. ALL comics are good, even the ones that are bad. And looking back through comics history, good times (the 40's and the 80's) and bad (the late 60's and 90's) is great fun. Feral deserves no less regard for the intent of the creator than Batman or Superman does, in my opinion. So if it's Feral they ask for, I'm going to do Feral, the way she's been presented in the past. (Maybe with a touch of humor)
Having said all of this, I'm holding up a banner that says "DC comics creator" and maybe I'm not suited for NEW X-MEN afterall. Just as well.
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
01:14 / 18.10.02
Agreed about the last couple of issues seeming like filler. If GM is holding back the tide of good stories in the event of Frank Quitely's return...well, I'd rather the book just be scheduled around Quitely's pace, quite frankly (ha ha). Just because Leon and Jiminez and Van Sciver (hello, Ethan...) are fill-in artists, that doesn't mean they should be saddled w/the chaff. In fact, I'd argue that Quitely, if anybody, is the fill-in here. Let him draw up the lame old X-Force characters...

On a side note...I bought NXM 133 yesterday before realizing (upon arriving home) that my subscription had finally started. I'm feeling generous, so if anyone wants a free copy of the issue, PM me.
 
 
CameronStewart
02:07 / 18.10.02
Ethan:

Just to make it clear, I'm not criticizing you for the presence Liefeld characters - I'm aware that it was Grant's choice to include them, and you were doing your job to draw them.

>>>I thought it would be fun to actually do them pretty much exactly the way he used to do them. Big shots, jumping at the camera, etc.<<<

It was clear you were channeling Liefeld for those panels (shudder) - although you have the distinct advantage of actually being able to draw...


>>>ALL comics are good, even the ones that are bad. <<<

Um, can you explain this please?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
02:45 / 18.10.02
By the way, to go off on a little tangent, I want to say that just because Rob Liefeld or Jim Lee created a character, and they may not be perceived as progressive or cool now doesn't change my attitude towards my responsibility to their creations one bit.

That's an interesting way of thinking about it - refreshingly ego-free, too. It's fair, I suppose, because I doubt you'd want people warping your creations because suddenly Beak or the jelly-body-skeleton-big-eyes guy became unfashionable. It's a golden rule thing, I understand. It also sort of makes sense in a continuity-nut way, because it's more unrealistic to expect every character to give up their sense of style and personality because some other characters have changed.

ALL comics are good, even the ones that are bad.

Now, I'm going to have to echo Cameron - could you explain that a bit more? Is it just as simple as that even if we can make a strong argument for Liefeld's comics being awful, there's still a lot of people who genuinely enjoyed them, or just that anything in the comics medium is good just in purely de facto way?

(By the way, you're an amusing interview, Ethan.
 
 
Ethan Van Sciver
06:34 / 18.10.02
Cameron:

Oh, I wasn't aiming any comments at you at all. We have clarity there. As for channeling Liefeld, yeah, and it was fun. I wasn't influenced by that age of comics at all, but I can certainly see their appeal. Pure trash-o-rama, and I think the fact that Liefeld couldn't really draw very well at all, and yet made oodles of money was punk-rock glamorous to fans. At first. That's the charm.

All comics are good, even the bad ones. I mean to say that I love comics the same way I love movies. They entertain me on different levels. It comes down to the fact that I really enjoy creative people, even when they fail. Even when our sensibilities differ. I also enjoy non-creative people when they fail. Or when they succeed because that's very strange. And of course, I love the real talents in this artform as well. For example, I must have read KILLING JOKE a hundred, trillion times. It represents a comic book almost perfectly completed from start to finish, and it's something that I'd like to do someday. It's a goal. Same thing goes for Dark Knight Returns. Watchmen. And then the dozens of very, very good comics that come out each month currently.
I enjoyed X-FORCE when I read it for research, because I know a little about the backstory. Rob Liefeld was an 18 or 19 year old kid with a recently laid off and then ailing father, and Rob became the sole provider for the Liefeld family. I can see the rush, the panic, and the doubt in every panel on every page, until he becomes popular, and the things he did for time saving devices he started to do with a cocky swagger. The books are TERRIBLE, obviously, but there is energy, youth, desperation, and eventually ego and greed right there to be looked into. And then IMAGE happened, and the disintegration of his reputation, the strange Michael Jackson-like press releases and spin doctoring, and again, the books reflect that strangeness to me. It's worth a peek, with this in mind.
Rob isn't the only generator of filth in this business. I can point you to the misguided failures of companies like Defiant, Dagger, Broadway and others. They're all enjoyable, if only to examine what not to do, what attitudes not to bring to the table. Why didn't it work? Because a team of businessmen and editors sitting around a large table trying to create comics will NEVER work. It takes sleepless, caffeinated renegades to do that.
And I also like the independant, self published efforts of people trying to break in. Because whether the comics are well crafted secret gems or just miserable reflections of Chris Claremont books, it's all about the fact that some people are like me. They're driven to draw comic books, and so they do it. Even if they aren't getting paid. Especially if they aren't getting paid.
So it's all good in some way. All of the characters are interesting and fun, and everyone's ideas are welcome on the playing field. And I'll read them all. I hope that makes sense to somebody.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
12:08 / 18.10.02
It makes sense.

Boundless enthusiasm is great; but I'd imagine that if your working within the industry, greater rigour in analysis is called for. That way, the general standard can be raised, cos lets face it, most comics are shite.

There's a book called 'Story' by someone or other, it's considered a bible by many screenwriters and storytellers, it tells you how to write, basically. The author makes a good point - not everyone can write a good novel, play, film, whatever.

I think this is also true for comics. So, while I too, share your enthusiasm (if i ever see anything resembling a comic book in an out of context situation, ie. not in a comic shop (or if its a self published venture, or a student project which dabbles with sequential art) I get excited, I think, how brave!, this human likes comics, this must be a good thing) I think its time for us to be a little less in love and a bit more cruel.

Otherwise, comics will continue to be seen as oddities.

While I'd agree with you that Killing Joke is perfectly executed, its this very precision which renders it rather dull.

And yeah, the Image 'story' is much more interesting than the products.
 
 
The Natural Way
12:56 / 18.10.02
Yeah, Moore had very little enthusiasm for the project - says he persevered for Bolland's sake.

Not rumour. True.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
13:59 / 18.10.02
Not to go too far off topic, but I've got to say, regardless of Moore's enthusiasm, The Killing Joke is far and away the best Batman comic I've ever read. Why it's not held in a higher regard than Dark Knight Returns, I'll never know.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:13 / 18.10.02
Because DKR is much, much better.

There's an argument for you! Beat that!
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
14:44 / 18.10.02
Sure thing. DKR isn't very good, and neither is Frank Miller. Nyah nyah nyah nyah.
 
 
Ethan Van Sciver
16:24 / 18.10.02
Killing Joke is ALMOST perfectly executed, and the problem lies with Moore, not Bolland. Batman sharing a chuckle with the Joker might happen, were it not for the bullet he put in Batgirl's spine a few hours earlier. Hardy har har. And I don't understand how he 'perservered'? Didn't he just write the script and hand it off? A great script might take, two or three months to write. Bolland took two years to draw it. Maybe it was Alan's patience that you were referring to.
Dark Knight Returns isn't better than Killing Joke. It's almost as good. Miller's satirizing of the media is utterly graceless and clumsy, and therefore has nothing to say to me except 'There's a whole bunch of hypocrisy in the United States government and in the mass media. Didn'tja know?!' It lacks both wit and subtlety. Only a 13 year old in 1987 might find it profound. But Batman and the Joker in the Tunnel of Love is perfectly rock and roll, and that makes up for it.
Yawn, comics will always be oddities. I think it's pointless trying to mainstream them. I believe 90% of people are dull, and unless you are feeding science fiction to them in the form of a Tom Cruise and Steven Spielberg production, they don't want it. Comics improving in content isn't going to change it much. But there is still that 10% (I don't have the hard data on this number, Yawn, bear with me.) that is looking for what comics have to offer. And they're not all looking for Grant Morrison or Alan Moore. Some of them, I dare say, want X-Force. (which is 'shite'.)
Of course it's true that not everyone can work successfully in comics. Most people who try fail, for the very reasons you mention. But I don't want all of my comics to me good. I want some of them to be horrible, so I can cringe a little. Or see something done completely wrong and take note. Everyone else can and will be cruel and put Darwinism in motion, but I just want to watch.
 
 
Jack Fear
16:45 / 18.10.02
This Van Sciver kid is pretty smart.
Somebody oughtta give him a job drawing comics or something.
 
 
Seth
22:25 / 18.10.02
Ethan, you're rapidly becoming one of my favourite human beings. Your statements on comics echo a lot of what I love about music. Anyone with as much love for human creativity - no matter how misguided the execution tunrs out to be - deserves a big hug. Please post more

As far as this issue... does anyone else reckon that Morrison doesn't have a clue how to write Wolverine? Do we honestly think that ol "been around the block more times than yo' mama and papa" Logan would be shocked at Fantomex' confessions about blackmailing people over the slave trade? Wolvie's dialogue is pure shite running off a nun's back - maybe this is one character where the need for internal dialogue on a comics page is vital. Yeah, the "Best there is at what I do... but what I do isn't very nice" guff was corny, but Claremont had a much better handle on who this man is.

In fact, Jean and Xavier acted pretty out of character around Fantomex, too. We're talking about characters who have been to the astral plane (or whatever passes for it in the Marvel Universe) and outer space, people who have had their live staken away and restored (or their ability to walk) countless times. Do we really expect them to be impressed by an aging Aunt May and what amounts to little more than Tony Stark's house plus a few antiques? Fuck right off. I get the impression that Morrison is touting his bankrupt little creative dullity a bit too much. Less is more, when you're trying to creative an aura of mystique.

As for Lilandra: I can't believe that Xavier hasn't sat down with her to explain that he isn't his twin sister. I guess we have to accept that she tried to off him because she was mad and confused, then... which doesn't work without building up to it in preceeding issues. As it stands, it didn't work on any level, and the implication was that Xavier hadn't bothered to sort out his relationship in the slightest. Utter trash, if that's so.

What was good about the issue? Um... I quite liked the Phoenix t-shirt... er...
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
22:35 / 18.10.02
Some people seem to be confusing Lilandra with Cassandra here... Lilandra is Xavier's space wife. The one who attempted to kill him this ish because she thought he was still possessed by Cassandra, who is Prof X's twin/mummudrai/what-have-you.
 
 
Seth
22:52 / 18.10.02
Even if it were an escaped Cassandra trying to assassinate Xavier, it wouldn't be a lot dumber than a confused Lilandra perched atop a building with a sniper rifle. Doesn't this woman have flunkies for that kinda stuff? Shit writing.
 
 
dlotemp
23:41 / 18.10.02
exp:

Actually, I've got to disagree with your impressions on the Lilandra assasin bit. Yes, she's a space empress so theoretically she'd have flunkies but these flunkies are 1) not emotionally traumatized by mental rape, 2) probably realize that Xavier is innocent and shouldn't be killed, and 3) probably a little leery of taking commands from a leader who has mislead them recently and is an unknown quantity right now. I agree that the whole thing seemed rushed but I think you're mistaking the trees for the forest. Just a suggestion, not a slam.

Ethan - well done story. I appreciate your frank comments on creating comics. Very insightful. good luck at DC.
 
 
Tamayyurt
23:54 / 18.10.02
Funny about the american sniper popping up around the time this issue was being printed. Another unintentional hypersigil?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:28 / 19.10.02
I still don't know where I stand on this issue.

First up, if the introduction of Dust is supposed to be Grant Morrison teaching X-Fans in Middle America that, hey, Muslims from Afghanistan are people too, y'know, they're not all terrorists, then it would really have helped to *not* cram the rest of the issue with crazed Islamic fundamentalists/terrorists/slave-traders so caricatured it would make Micah Wright blush. Logan's opening line sounds so much like an extract from a sabre-rattling Tony Blair speach ("There's no reasoning with these (uncivilised, barbaric) people", etc), I was sure it must be a piss-take, but no... If someone wants to explain to em what makes that opening scene any better than a hundred crappy Wolverine-is-fucking-hard-watch-him-waste-baddies sequences we've seen before, I'm listening.

As for the plane hijacking sequence... it tastes like Millar, to be brutally frank, and I'm sure people know what that means. I can't help but see that scene as 'look at the enlightened wealthy white man teaching the crazy fundamentalist terrorists the folly of their ways'. Okay, so you could argue that in a purely practical plot way - obviously Xavier has to use his powers to stop the hi-jacking - but still... Maybe it's just the *unbelievably* smug way that Morrison has had Xavier talk ever since he started walking again that gets me. (Although how the hell Xavier can essentially telepathically brainwash people into pacifism while at the same time employing Logan, and not be a sickening hypocrite is beyond me.)

What redeems this issue is that the end seems to suggest that Xavier is being set up for a bit of a fall (and the preview pages of #135 would seem to confirm this). As Lilandra says, he thinks that he can talk his way out of anything (that's sort of what his telepathy seems to boil down to, a kind of super-persuasive reasoning), he thinks he's got all the answers. If and when the Professor's head gets stamped on by a purple-haired theorybitch called Quentin while his star teachers either have nervous breakdowns or turn into world-devouring monsters and kill the woman who's been having psychic pervery with their husband (and surely this is a when, not an if), it is just possible I may be cheering...
 
 
Templar
13:07 / 19.10.02
Doubt Grant would let Emma get killed off - she's one of his favourite characters.
 
 
The Natural Way
13:10 / 19.10.02
Who's confused 'bout Cassy and Lilandra, Deric?

Actually, I haven't checked my last post to see if I acidentally jumbled the names up...

Ethan, I can't work out where yr "X Force is shite" thing is coming from. Are you caricaturing?
 
 
Billy Corgan
13:17 / 19.10.02
Dude, he was talking about Liefeld X-Force, not Milligan X-Force.

Keep on rockin'.
 
 
Ethan Van Sciver
18:12 / 19.10.02
Impulsivelad:

Eeeyikes....I didn't realize that until just now.

Flyboy:

About the Wolverine scene, for what it's worth. It ended up being a lot talkier than I had expected, from the unfinished script that I was given to work from. (The cool thing about not working on New X-Men anymore is that now I can talk about it a little) Grant turns in some very sketchy scripts for us to work from, and then offers us very little contact for additional information. The exception is Frank Quitely. Vince and Grant are close friends, so he gets to converse back and forth about what this and that might mean.
The script I was given had Logan saying very little. Page one asked for a splash of a very battle damaged but cocky Wolverine, standing over a pile of soldiers in the snowy mountains of Afghanistan. So I shot Grant an email. "Grant, what soldiers? Who are these guys?" He replied, "They're just bastards. Local slave traders." It was my decision to use Taliban as reference, since it seemed to be the throughline. I sent another email letting him know my plan, and that if he had a problem, he should let me know so I could change it before inks got to it. No reply. The script indicated that Logan would have dialogue, but offered no hint as to what it would be.
Page two specifically asked for a close up of Logan with a Frank Quitely sneer, and Grant simply had him saying to the trembling soldier, "Drop the gun or lose the hand." The guy drops the gun, and so Grant said that 'Logan turns and walks off. No more use for the man.' And then, well, you know the rest.
I was under the impression that it would be very dialogue-lite, like a Batman scene, and I drew it that way. (I also thought it took place at night, but you can't control everything all the time.) As I said, the end result was surprising to me. I still love the scene, and think it's a smarter version of a classic Logan confrontation that's been seen many times before. If anyone else had written it, that last soldier would have been cut to ribbons and spit upon, rather than just incapacitated. Grant's Wolverine, as far as this scene shows, only goes as far as he absolutely HAS to. He killed until he didn't need to anymore, until the opposition was rendered harmless. He spared the last soldier's life, because getting down the mountain didn't REQUIRE that he kill him. This is a form of pacifism, of a certain conservative nature, that peace is only acchieved through conflict. Through rendering your enemy inable to wage war.
I loved the airplane scene, flyboy. I thought about the time that Pope John Paul II visited Ali Agca, the man who tried to murder him, and forgave him. And the man wept and beg for forgiveness. I started thinking that in some ways, Charles has a messianic complex, and would lovingly wash the brains of those who would do him harm. It was all pretty sick and wonderful. I gave him a gentle smile (which could easily be read as smug, thank you) and gave him some Pope-like mannerisms while dealing with the terrorists. (The inks removed a lot of detail, I hasten to add. The interior of an Air India 747 has beautiful floral wall paper, which I drew, and was removed. P-tooey, Marvel.) If you smell some hypocrisy on the part of Charles Xavier, knowing what I know about Frank Quitely's run, this issue set up the ball to be spiked.

Runce:

Earlier, Yawn said that most comics are 'shite'. By the way, in the U.S., that last 'e' is silent. Come now. Liefeld's X-FORCE, I assume, would fall under that category for him. For me it doesn't, because it doesn't fail to entertain. The only sin is to bore, in my opinion.

Ethan Van Sciver
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
01:52 / 20.10.02
The 'shite' thing is a British (read: Irish/Welsh/Scottish) colloquial alteration, based mostly on the way it sounds in conversation... The change in the 'i' vowel that adding the 'e' at the end provides tends to bite the end off the word 'shit' nicely, making it more caustic and adding tone. Garth Ennis does have some things to be thanked for in comics - he popularised this, as far as I remember.
 
 
penitentvandal
09:48 / 20.10.02
I have to say that, despite all the bitchin' on here, I actually liked this issue. I liked all the old X-Force characters being the Indian division of X-Corp; I liked the fact that the locals liked their cool old costumes: because I'm beginning to get a sense for what Grant's doing with this whole X-Corp thing. He's reconfigured the X-Men to be almost like DC's JLI in the 80s - embassies all over the place, lots of little sub-groups for new writers and artists to play around with as toys when Grant's gone. And also I just like Warpath's costume...

I liked Wolverine's conversation with the Afghan slave-traders: because this is much like the Wolverine we saw in Grant's first issue. He is not a nice man, fundamentally - he's the kind of guy who would berate the slave-traders for being unreasonable bastards, the kind of guy who'd shout you down for the sin of forcing him to kill you. And yet he spares the guy with the gun, and saves Dust's life - this is the thing about Logan. He's the most purely emotional character in the X-Men. One minute he'll be killing people, the next he'll be looking after some vulnerable girl-child (Kitty, Jubilee, Angel...Dust is unusual in being a little older than Logan's tastes, I think). It's a loss-of-innocence thing: Wolvie responds to an innocence he perceives in other people which he thinks that he, himself, has lost. And also, I just liked 'but he's Wolverine! He's a samurai!'

I liked the aeroplane scene, even if some chaps here thought it horrible and racist, because it provided a nice counterpoint to Logan's rampage. The Professor adopting a genuinely helpful approach, healing the terrorists conceptually and ensuring they wouldn't be brutalized in prison. The wax guns were a nice touch as well. I do agree that Charles is definitely being set up for a fall, purely because he does think he has all the answers. Remember how cool and smug KM seemed in the first volume of the Invisibles? That's what Charles reminds me of now. Anyone that smug will definitely be put through the ringer. And I think the fact that the 'pacifist' Charles employs Wolverine will probably feed into it.

Lillandra's assassination - I do think it was all a bit out of the blue, but her conversation with Charles ('I am all broken', indeed) was a nice reminder of the emotional cost of the whole 'Imperial' storyline, much as last issue helped put the Genosha thing in context. And Fantomex's ability to dupe Wolvie, Jean and Charles is surely evidence of his odd perception-warping powers. Anyone else couldn't shock Logan at all, but Fantomex can...This is what'll make him dangerous.

And I really liked Ethan's art this issue! I have to say, with this issue, and the insightful comments here, I'm kinda sad to see him go now...
 
 
glassonion
11:18 / 20.10.02
I'd like to take a running fuck out the gate and say that i've been buying the first run of liefeld's youngblood, one a week, for about the past month. for all its brutality and amateurism, the thing is a laugh and two halves, thousands of characters who you're sure you've seen before running around killing each other with huge guns shouting dialogue plucked straight out of army recruitment videos. i'm just the sort who likes seeing what comics people liked back when and why. the vivid, over the top melodrama of younglood and liefeld's new mutants and xforce seem to jar so much with the 'caring, sharing' ideals that came to shape the decade that it almost speaks directly to the background wish-fulfillment armageddon fun-fantasies of gunfreaks, real-life misfits, loners and superheroes everywhere.

for those so bugged by seeing out-sourced characters they had to write about it: 'no bad characters, only bad writers'. for all his faults, morrison is not that. the interaction of thornn and feral was superb - what if cats could talk? what would they be saying to each other as they strutted about showing off looking for strokes? mr sky-vrr's drawings of their tails was enough to make this issue ace alone.
 
 
ciarconn
13:01 / 20.10.02
Thronn's reaction to Feral is understandable. Feral killed their brother, their mather (or stepfather, I do not remember), tried to kill Thornn and Warpath:, and eventually ripped off Syrin's vocal chords. I suspect Feral is another victim of Xavier's "pacifist brainwash/drain"
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
15:06 / 20.10.02
I started thinking that in some ways, Charles has a messianic complex, and would lovingly wash the brains of those who would do him harm. It was all pretty sick and wonderful. I gave him a gentle smile (which could easily be read as smug, thank you) and gave him some Pope-like mannerisms while dealing with the terrorists... If you smell some hypocrisy on the part of Charles Xavier, knowing what I know about Frank Quitely's run, this issue set up the ball to be spiked.

Aaah. That's what I was hoping. Quite excited now.

(For the record: it wasn't the art that bugged me about the Logan-in-Afghanistan scenes - generally I liked the art this issue, especially one very Kidmanish shot of Jean Grey in the X-Corps Mumbai headquarters. And yes, Xavier does *look* like he has a messiah complex in this issue - nice one.)
 
 
The Falcon
01:54 / 21.10.02
Unlike the (vocal) majority here, I, like vv 2.0, really enjoyed the ish. As opposed to the last two, which I did find disappointing. It's worth remembering how far Morrison's raised the bar in terms of expectation, though. But this one isn't ponderous; it's jam-packed!

It feels like a MARVEL(!) comic, but you know that there's undercurrents bubbling there. Xavier does seem to be getting unutterably smug and out of hand recently. Fantomex is parping about, giving semi-assistance. That's the second time Logan's been called James. And the Shi'ar still hate the Phoenix, which has 'hatched' and is 'merciless'. And there's a mysterious Muslim mutant called Dust, who Wolvie's rescued.

I think (and hope) he's going to absolutely ruin the X-Men. In a good way.

P.S. Has anyone noticed the professor's newly acquired habit of staring directly out of panels? I find it frankly unnerving.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
11:54 / 21.10.02
I hope there's a really good reason other than being in the same program that Fantomex knows about Logan's first name seeing as he didn't even tell his prospective wife that, waaaaaay back in someone else's continuity

Quite liked it otherwise, though I'll reserve judgement on Dust until she actually does something. Also I like that the Shi-ar are cutting their ties with Earth because following Cassandra Nova's work they are in no shape this time to take on the Phoenix. Is she going to be the Ultimate villain Morrison has hinted at?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:48 / 21.10.02
I believe 90% of people are dull, and unless you are feeding science fiction to them in the form of a Tom Cruise and Steven Spielberg production, they don't want it.

I don't want to do this, and yet somehow I feel compelled...so, only people who like non-mainstream sci-fi are not dull? That's a fascinating inversion of every experiential datum ever produced...

Incidentally, kittens, is Wolverine *really* being all that merciful here? There is one bad guy left, he has no power to inflict more than cosmetic damage on Wolverine, and he is very probably going to die of shock and blood loss post-hand severing....which in itself is a bit "Look! When theocrats do this to thieves, it's bad. When Wolverine does it to a slave trader it's....Java-strong Justice!"
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:50 / 21.10.02
Presumbaly, the reason Fantomex knows Jimmy Logan's name is that he just knows this shit. Because he's really cool. He can probably tell it from the way the hairs on Logan's knuckles point. Narratologically, that seems to be how he works.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
15:19 / 21.10.02
Well, I think it was that 'Coming Out as Having a First Name' party that did for Logan really...
 
  

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