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Responsibility to friends

 
 
SMS
02:33 / 27.05.02
It is difficult to ask the question, “What are the responsibilities of a friend?” because there are so many different kinds of friends. However, I think it is a topic worth discussing because it seems to be at odds with the idea that all people are equal. Friends are chosen somehow to have priority over other people. Or is this the case? Are friends just people whose company you enjoy but to whom you owe no allegiance save the allegiance you owe to all of humankind?
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
09:50 / 27.05.02
Good question.

I think most of my friends ARE people I get on with, with the extra twist now that Internet can provide the opportunity to have friends that I've met only once IRL or more often not at all. But I don't think friendship negates the 'all people are equal' thing, to me that is something that should be considered to be an 'objective fact' (and I just like to add a theory bitch disclaimer that I may not be using that in an entirely correct way) while my friendship is a 'subjective fact' (same here), after all, my friend might drive you crazy.

Have I missed something here?
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
10:30 / 27.05.02
Kim Philby and Graham Greene were friends. When Philby was revealed as a traitor, Greene announced that it would not affect their friendship.
 
 
drzener
17:26 / 06.06.02
Friends are people you can trust and have a laugh with. I hold all friends dear because there really are so many wankers in the world. Whether they are near or far they're still my mates. I suppose I would hold a greater allegiance to them than others. Some of them I've known for one year, some for two and others for ten or more but that doesn't make a difference to me.
 
 
muse
03:25 / 07.06.02
What would you sacrifice for a stranger? What would you sacrifice for a friend? Strangers make for the best friends. The problem with most friendships is that both the loyalty and the trust claimed in the dynamic is also often untested, and simply merited because of time passed.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:20 / 07.06.02
Unless something actually discussable is posted in this thread fairly soon, it should probably be moved to the Conversation.

Quick thought-starter:

Simonides said that the good man helped his friend and harmed his enemy. Plato argued that this was an anachronism, and that the good man is a man who understands what is right, and will do it regardless of what his friends may think or how he or they might suffer.

Now, I think SMatthewStolte's suggestion that the idea of friendship undermines the idea of all men being equal is confused - you can believe two flavours of ice cream are of equal value while preferring the taste of one of them.

However, he is right in saying that if one were set a choice between making a friend happy and a stranger happy it would in most cases seem more natural to make the friend happy. In certain cases, this could go against other instincts or social requirements, such as obeying the law or seeking your own happiness.

Why? Is this an exchange system, or a focused form of altruism? A form of herd instinct (hi Rage)? A peculiarity of conscious choice? Is friendship a contractual relationship?
 
 
Mystery Gypt
08:42 / 07.06.02
friendship is most likely a survival instinct. we know immediately -- if we've any sense at all -- that the world is hostile and there are no social structures that exist which specifically protect any one individual -- except, immediately, the love from mother.

so in order to survive, we immediately set about meeting other people who will value us above others, and who will therefore throw a vote in our favor when it comes down to it. and why will they do this? because we've done the same for them.

that'd be a contact, then.

at the same time, part of this contract involves a psychological necessity. we know, each of us, that we will live and die alone. we can be made to forget this if we spend time close to peope who aren't unbearable. so we go into the world and try to find the least unbearable people, and they try to find us, and we promise to all hold each other's hands and not remind one another of our oncoming end, until it finally comes, and we are "remembered".
 
  
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