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Flaming Lips : Yoshimi Vs. the Pink Robots

 
  

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Seth
22:30 / 11.07.02
I met Yoshimi yesterday morning. She completed me
 
 
rizla mission
15:10 / 12.07.02
You did?? WOW!
 
 
Seth
21:56 / 12.07.02
Yeah. Just to really piss you off, the whole band arrived at the train station about fifteen minutes after you wandered off into town. Pin gave My Eye a copy of The Sky Is Falling.
 
 
Seth
21:57 / 12.07.02
That was supposed to be Mr Eye....
 
 
Seth
22:00 / 15.07.02
Ok. Everybody, everybody. This is a fantastic record.

Fight Test kicks things off, seeming like an unconscious nod to Cat Stevens' Father & Son, both lyrically and musically (the fact that they can pull this kind of thing off should come as no surpise). Yoshimi... Part Two feels like the Lips wrestling in a bag with DMX Krew and Daft Punk. In the Morning of the Magicians and It's Summertime evoke the same kind of magic as the Floyd's A Pillow of Winds, or Marillion's Afraid of Sunrise, without using either of these as a reference point (the fact that they can pull this kind of thing off should come as no surprise). Do You Realise actually made me weep, a lyric touched by God, and yet again we're reminded how the Lips can touch subject matter in a way that no other band can without pouring on the cheese, in a way that will sit and smile with you at the transcendence and transience of life, knowing that all the worlds secret wisdom can be condensed into a couple of simple words. All We Have Is Now is a perfect marriage of lyric and music, "We're not going to make it" placed in a song that continually builds to... nothing.

It's breathtaking how many ideas the Flaming Lips can take and reprocess, from DJ Shadow to Timbaland style drum programming, from the squelchiest of hi-fi synths to the simplest strumming of acoustic guitars. This is no straight follow up to the Soft Bulletin, although there is a fairly close reference point (both lyrically and musically) in that album's Feeling Yourself Disintegrate. This is a far more restrained Lips... although for any other band it would probably be the height of their musical indulgence and excess. Not as immediate as some of their other records, certainly, but it's already totally captured me even on the second listen. As of the third, the Robot falls in love with Yoshimi.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
11:29 / 17.07.02
On third listen now. Thoughts: Oh wow.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
11:42 / 17.07.02
Buying this and the soft bulletin today then. And to think I'd never heard them. ME! Never. heard. them.

How incredibly gay.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
12:01 / 17.07.02
I've regained my senses a little now. There's just so many perfect moments on this record that it's nearly impossible to single any out, but Do You Realise has to be their greatest, made even better by the way that All We Have Is Now forms a kind of coda to it, covering the same subject matter (the acceptance of death as inevitable, 'live for the moment' sentiments that in the hands of any other group would sound trite) in a more subdued outro.
 
 
tSuibhne
12:20 / 17.07.02
I'm also still listening to it. Haven't reached a point where I can listen to it as anything but a complete album, so I can't give examples yet, but oh wow. Been awhile since I enjoyed an album this much.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:29 / 17.07.02
You have found the secret message. Do you have too much time on your hands? ...Let it go.

Reminded me of 'hidden' meesages on LP run-out grooves. Made me smile geek smile.
 
 
rizla mission
09:31 / 21.07.02
As of the third, the Robot falls in love with Yoshimi.

Yes! Maybe I'm just too determined to make this a concept album, but I think it's about Yoshimi and the robot who gains emotions in the second song falling in love as they're fighting each other, and gradually coming to realize the fact, and then coming to the understanding that their love can't last because all the other robots are attacking the humans and vice versa, so they decide they must live for the moment and give in to certain death by flying into space in a balloon .. it's so... *sniff* war becoming love becoming tragedy .. it's wonderful.. I've only listened to it once..
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
10:42 / 21.07.02
It's good. I've had it on repeat since Wednesday. It makes me feel cold, hot, happy and sad all at the same time.

Impossible to play without a tear welling up. I might have to stop playing it, so I can stop looking so sad.

oh, also strangely mystified that I couldn't find "The Soft Bulletin" for anything less than £17 in shops. Absurd.
 
 
Seth
12:55 / 21.07.02
That's odd. You can usually pick it up in the big-chain permasales for much less. Are there any indie stores near you? Not that it's not worth ten times £17...
 
 
videodrome
16:43 / 24.07.02
A friend just sent an e-mail with some comments about Yoshimi, including the following:

At least one song on Yoshimi (Summertime) was created as Wayne's way to communicate his emotions about a Japanese friend's unexpected death to her two non-english speaking sisters. It seems that the sisters sent the band emails trying to explain to them that the other girl was dead but their english was so poor that the realization of the facts came very slowly and with a dangling hope that there was just a horrible misunderstanding going on. Wayne's best songs seem to come from these complex emotional moments that he is able to translate into abstract images and concepts.

I don't know where this story comes from, but it's incredible and makes "It's Summertime" make so much more sense to me, especially followed as it is by "Do You Realize?", which continues to make me cry every time I hear it.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
19:37 / 24.07.02
Videodrome - that anecdote come from Wayne Coyne's essay about Yoshimi on the Flaming Lips website.

I highly recommend Wayne's essay about this record, The Soft Bulletin, and Zaireeka! to anyone interested in his music. They are very interesting and inspiring essays, to say the least.
 
 
videodrome
20:01 / 24.07.02
Oh, thanks, Flux. I appreciate that. Hadn't found those essays; the last time I poked around on the Lips' site the new was one still very new and some of the links weren't working. Hadn't gone back. Am perusing all that stuff now.
 
 
rizla mission
08:39 / 25.07.02
That's a lot of very interesting stuff about the album. I always love reading musicians talking about what their records are about etc. Gives you a whole new way of looking at them.

Sadly though, it's buggered up my plan to draw a comic book based on the album (yes, i like it that much), because I was convinced it was a concept album and had misinterpretted all the songs. Oh well.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
13:34 / 15.08.02
According to the horror known as Pitchfork, Beck will be using The Flaming Lips as his backing back on his next tour, and the Lips will also be the opening act.

Of course, the NYC show has sold out before this information was made known. Bastards.
 
 
rizla mission
08:41 / 17.08.02
uh ... wow.

Two of my favourite bands/artists, but I wouldn't have thought they'd fit together very well.. wow.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
17:34 / 17.08.02
So, for someone who only knows the Lips from "Vasoline" and bootlegs of the them and Nick Cave doing "It's a Wonderful World" is this album something to look out for. Or is it something that would only appeal to diehard fans. I've got to admit, I'm curious.

-Kevin
 
 
Seth
23:07 / 17.08.02
kevin: I would say beyond shadow of doubt that Clouds Taste Metallic, Zaireeka and The Soft Bulletin are albums that really need to be heard about five times each (I nearly recommended that everyone should own them, but realised that I had to make some consessions for that fact that some people are just bloodless, souless freaks who should be shot in the head instantly for not being able to nurture the purity in their heart). Yoshimi... is awesome, but these are the three truly great Lips albums as far as I'm concerned.
 
 
rizla mission
09:19 / 18.08.02
Well 'Yoshimi..' is high on the list of albums I'm going to copy for a friend of mine who's never listened to much music before but likes the sound of all this stuff I obsess over..

I'd say that both it and The Soft Bulletin should be pretty instantly accessible to someone who's never heard the 'Lips before..
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
12:53 / 18.08.02
I'm with Expressionless, though I do think that Zaireeka is less accessable and should maybe be skipped by people with a casual interest in the Flaming Lips, in spite of the fact that it is utterly essential in understanding the full scope of their talent and ambition.

Clouds Taste Metallic is one of the most criminally underrated records out there, and surely one of the best guitar rock albums of the 90s. Everything on it is wonderful, and it remains my favorite Lips album.
 
 
Seth
15:29 / 18.08.02
Clouds Taste Metallic is just incredible. They've perfected a sound on that album that is still pretty much unequalled as far as I've heard: the sheer irrepressable fuzzy joy of guitars used for pure rock'n'punk'n'roll noisemaking, a overdriven cacophany of broken fragments of electrics somehow making coherent songs. The guitar playing on that album is inspired on every track without exception, and the bass and drums are that idiosyncratic rhythmic semi-nonsense that they've got down to a fine art. Oh yeah, and every song is wonderful: so many of my favourite Lips songs are on here. I request Kim's Watermelon Gun every time I feel the need to hit the indie disco
 
 
Spatula Clarke
10:45 / 27.08.02
The only time I've seen them live was just after Bulletin came out. They concentrated almost solely on that album, with covers of White Christmas and Somewhere Over The Rainbow, but also chucked Lightning Strikes The Postman in, pushing it close to being my very favourite Lips song.

Out of interest, what do people here think of the Grandaddy album, The Sophtware Slump and the huge debt it seems to owe the Lips?
 
 
rizla mission
15:45 / 27.08.02
I think it's just plain boring, though I love some of the earlier Grandady stuff (STREETBUNNY!). I s'pose it might be good if the Flaming Lips didn't exist. But they do. So 'Sophtware Slump' is pretty irrelevent.

oh, and 'amen!' to what expressionless says about Clouds Taste Metallic.
 
 
Seth
17:13 / 27.08.02
Agreed, Riz. Even a band as superb as Mercury Rev sound second rate next to the Lips. Accept no substitute.
 
 
schwantz
17:26 / 29.08.02
Just so y'all know, there is a FREE shockwave version of the WHOLE album on the Flaming Lips website, so you can try before you buy. I listened to the shockwave version for about a month, and THEN bought a copy...
 
 
videodrome
02:34 / 16.09.02
Plug:

I did an interview with S. Drozd of the Lips a couple weeks ago, and it's now gone live on Splendid. Came out OK; we had technical difficulties, on which I'll blame any shortcomings of the interview, regardless of actual reason.

Link.
 
 
Domestiques
19:35 / 16.09.02
I think any of the bands mentioned so far, granddaddy, flaming lips or mercury rev would have existed without each other, add low to that list and it is complete. Over the years they have all influenced each other and drawn upon the same influences, I must admit out of the all only really granddaddy and the flaming lips mean that much to me, but unless I am mistaken didnt jonathon donohue have a stint in the flaming lips?
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
13:54 / 08.10.02
Woo! Just thought I'd add this in, I finally got the Soft Bulletin. Actually, my mum did. She really liked the Yoshimi album, and when she got back from work today, she just happened to have picked up the soft bulletin. I like my mum a lot.
 
 
rizla mission
14:36 / 08.10.02
So has anyone else been listening to the recent re-issues?

I picked up The Day They Shot a Hole in the Jesus Egg the other day, and absolutely love it to bits .. probably my favourite 'Lips stuff in fact .. if you boiled up everything I like about music in a pot, In A Priest Driven Ambulance would probably be the result.. yow!
 
 
Seth
00:14 / 11.10.02
The... reissues? Man. Shows how little I'm paying attention.

Must.

Search.

Net.
 
 
Seth
00:39 / 11.10.02


They're going to make me buy stuff I already own for the bonus tracks and new artwork, aren't they? Why must they control my mind?
 
 
rizla mission
13:16 / 11.10.02
In a spirit of gneral niceness I could copy you the bonus tracks from the ..Jesus Egg release if you like - loads of alternate versions of tracks from Priest Driven Ambulance and about eight(?) very fine previously unreleased songs from that period..
 
  

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