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Flaming Lips : Yoshimi Vs. the Pink Robots

 
  

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Matthew Fluxington
18:32 / 20.05.02
The new Flaming Lips LP, Yoshimi vs. the Pink Robots is now available on Audiogalaxy. It won't be in stores til July. Here's the tracklisting for those with no patience:

01 Do Ya Realize
02 Are You a Hypnotist
03 Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
04 Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, Part 2
05 Funeral in My Head
06 Up Above the Daily Hum
07 Fight Test (Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, Part 3)
08 Sympathy 3000-21
09 One More Robot
10 Ego-Tripping at the Gates of Hell
11 In the Morning of the Magicians
12 It's Summertime
13 All We Have Is Now
14 Approaching Pavonis Mons by Balloon (Utopia Planitia)

I downloaded the record earlier today, and it's much too early for me to formulate an opinion about it just yet. It's BIZARRE. Most of it sounds like a soundtrack to a Japanese animated film, and it is very much a concept record about someone called Yoshimi fighting evil robots, it rarely strays from the lyrical themes. It's not as orchestral as The Soft Bulletin, but it's lush in its own way. There is all manner of synthesizers, drum machines, and electro sound effects all over this record, but also a great deal of acoustic guitar strumming. A few of the songs have a breezy summertime feeling to them, but others are extremely melodramatic and bombastic.

This is a very interesting record, to say the least.
 
 
Seth
20:04 / 20.05.02
I have no patience, but also a shite net connection, so it'll have to wait. But I wouldn't trade the insane cravings of an imminent album release by one of my favourite bands for anything. The Lips have barely set a foot wrong since the turn of the nineties - I'll be extremely surprised if this record is anything less than fucking brilliant.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
20:21 / 20.05.02
Expressionless, if you want to download just one song to whet yr appetite, I recommend getting Are You A Hypnotist, particularly because I know yr a big fan of Steve Drozdz' drumming. This song is a marvel of percussion, let me tell you.
 
 
Margin Walker
21:18 / 20.05.02
Kinda off-topic, but has anyone heard "Zaireeka!" in the suggested "4 CD players in tandem" method? Is there a big difference? Or was that some Pink Floyd/Wizard of Oz hype they cooked up to sell multiple copies of the CD?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
21:41 / 20.05.02
I have, in my first year of college, the only semester of my life when I lived in a dorm. We did it twice - it was cool, an interesting novelty, but I enjoyed the record a lot more when another friend burned me a cd that he made digitally transposing/mixing all of the songs into one cd. I wish I could describe the experience better for you, but it was about five years ago so it's not exactly fresh in my memory. It's funny, I remember the smell of the room and all the wires hanging all over the place more than the music...
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
21:42 / 20.05.02
Oh, by the way it wasn't sold as anything other than a 4 cd set. It was anything but a marketing move - in fact, I think it could very be one of the most difficult-to-sell-and-market records of all time.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
22:41 / 20.05.02
Getting the four CD players into reach, then setting them off simultaneously is a nightmare, more so when there's only the one of you. Suprisingly, it is most definitely worth going to the trouble. Riding To Work In The Year 2025 and Thiry-Five Thousand Feet Of Despair would be two of my favourite Lips tracks regardless.

It's a strange experience, listening to the four CDs at once, and one that's quite difficult to describe. You feel disorientated a great deal of the time due to the way that the different players go out of time with each other. Coyne explains it pretty well in the liner notes:

So anyway... I got a couple of CD players together and played some tracks that I had on two separate CDs. You know, the same song but on two different discs, like say a track off an album and a track off a single... anyway - I played them together simple by pressing the play buttons at the same time. To my suprise they played relatively in synch for the first minute or so... but even more of a suprise was that they would wobble in and out of synch sort of arbitrarily. From what I can tell, CD players will not play in synch with each other. They get close, depending on the quality of the players, but for the most part it can be pretty random. It was this part that excited me, the fact that they played close enough together that you could tell what was going on, but also played unpredictably in front or behind the other making it confusing. Sometimes one would start behind and catch up the other, other times the opposite. What I liked best about it was how different and out of whack an otherwise simple song could get... and with that in mind I started to think with an "expanded" view of what music and songs could be... I would try to present music that was both clear and confusing, where rhthyms fought each other, where time signatures were simple yet unpredictable... Music that would be unfamiliar even after a thousand listens. Music that, according to the normal ideas of what music is, doesn't work... Instead of listening to a song and passively being entertained or bored the listener would be engaged and agitated... Soothed but suspect... In a state of suspended anticipation... The listener could hear an exaggerated dimension of sound where sometimes reverb comes before a sound occurs, other times it's delayed... Where a melody that's pleasant and uplifting, upon being shifted slightly, becomes dissonant and interruptive... Where crescendos miss their cues either late or early or both... making music that purposely destroys its own momentum... and instead of hearing these things and thinking of them as being wrong or annoying... I heard the possibilities of a bizarre new format.

That format's still not as bizarre as the fact that Warner actually released it, natch.

I had a feeling that a couple of the singles off The Soft Bulletin had mixes of a couple of the Zaireeka tracks on them (CD singles, US releases, that is).
 
 
Spatula Clarke
22:46 / 20.05.02
Originally posted by Margin Walker:
Kinda off-topic, but has anyone heard "Zaireeka!" in the suggested "4 CD players in tandem" method? Is there a big difference?

Despite claims to the contrary, it's almost impossible to listen to the CDs spearately and get any real enjoyment from them. There are patches of complete silence that last for a couple of minutes in the longer tracks on some of the discs, for example, and other moments when a sound on one makes no sense without a partner. It does work pretty well when you listen to two or more of the CDs in tandem (although all four is ideal, obviously).
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
23:05 / 20.05.02
Randy, mixed down versions of "Riding To Work In The Year 2025" and "Thiry-Five Thousand Feet Of Despair" were on the US "Waiting For A Superman" EP, and "The Big Ol' Bug Is The New Baby" now is on the Noise Pop compilation on Amazing Grease. Like I said, there have been people who have made mixed-down one cd versions of the entire album - I had one, but I lost it, sadly - and I'm sure you can find them on Audiogalaxy. Actually, I'll check later on, cos I really want to hear "Okay I'll Admit That I Really Don't Understand" right about now...
 
 
videodrome
09:28 / 21.05.02
I've got a mixed-down version. Put it together a couple years ago, and listen to it often. It's a great record, but yes, the 4 disc thing is often far too much trouble. Perhaps when I return home I can rip the mix-down to MP3...
 
 
bio k9
09:39 / 22.05.02
I would very much like a 1CD copy of Zaireeka if anyone can be bothered...
 
 
rizla mission
15:52 / 22.05.02
me too.

I think the description of the new album sounds amazing .. somehow the combination of the music of The Flaming Lips and a story about someone called Yoshimi fighting Pink Robots sounds absolutely perfect..
 
 
Seth
17:40 / 22.05.02
I'd also love a mixed down copy, if anyone here is listening and capable. I've actually had the four CD set for well over a year, but everytime I've tried to organise a playback it's fallen through
 
 
Spatula Clarke
17:58 / 22.05.02
I've just whacked a mixed version together, so send me your addresses and I'll get copies out to you.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
18:02 / 22.05.02
Interesting to note that it's actually been recorded in a way that makes the individual parts sound slightly out of time even when the CDs are synchronised perfectly.

I *would* download the new album, but I like the 'event' feeling when a new record comes out by a group you really love.
 
 
Seth
20:04 / 22.05.02
Cheers, Flux - I've just downloaded Are You A Hypnotist? I'm amazed that there aren't a lot more bands who take the explicitly cut and paste method of assembling drums for songs. In this case it sounds like the breaks were assembled at random. I like
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
00:18 / 23.05.02
Hmm. I wonder what the story of the drums on "Hypnotist" is... It's probably a good bet that they were indeed spliced together, but I've witnessed drummers play in very similar ways - for example, Hishom Bharoocha from Pixeltan and Black Dice can pull that sort of thing off, so can Phil Selway from Radiohead when he plays "Airbag" live. "Airbag" was created from spliced drum performances in the studio, but Phil replicates the sound damn close live.

I don't entirely doubt that Steve Drozdz has the ability to play drums like that with only a bit of studio tricks...
 
 
Seth
14:58 / 23.05.02
You can mainly hear it on the cymbal decays - there are a few that cut out just that bit too soon. I guess with hard-disc recording you can achieve the same effect with a very precise drummer and a of noise gating. Either way, it’s all been audibly quantized, compressed to fuck, and you can hear that the fill-ins are duplicated at least.

I love it when bands use drum parts assembled from breaks made in the studio. I was thinking about how amazing Airbag sounded myself earlier today. It’s one of the main techniques I intend to use when my own recording project starts to take off, partly for convenience, partly because it instantly captures a vibe that references hip hop, without sounding like you intend to be some useless genre crossover shite. Ripping the methodology rather than the more unimaginative signifiers that most people tend to ape.

Maybe we should start another recording/writing techniques thread. I’m sure there are enough bedroom producers here to get a bit of mileage out of it.
 
 
Saveloy
15:18 / 23.05.02
Expressionless:

"I'm amazed that there aren't a lot more bands who take the explicitly cut and paste method of assembling drums for songs."

Same here, but having mucked about with that sort of thing myself (it's what I'm hoping to do with your barbebreaks, btw), I've an idea it's because it's very laborious and, well, boring compared to playing live. Difficult to be spontaneous and near impossible to interact with other band members - you have to construct the thing in its entirety first and then get the live musisians to play alongside it. I've met few who really enjoy doing that, but maybe I'm just unlucky.
 
 
Bear
12:34 / 04.07.02
I just heard the single "Do You Realize" on Mark and Lard, thought it was excellent but I didn't know who it was (I've never really heard the flaming lips) - but I'll be buying the album now.

I thought there might be a thread about them on here so I just thought i'd share the above.....
 
 
Fengs for the Memory
12:43 / 04.07.02
Going to see them tonight at the Alex theatre in brum, I'll let you know what it was like.
 
 
Bear
14:08 / 04.07.02
You all probably know already but you can listen to the album on the Flaming lips website...
 
 
rizla mission
17:12 / 04.07.02
I heard the single on the radio the other day too (probably at the same time you did) and thought it was absolutely wonderful. That's ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL, as opposed to just quite good. I was eating acheese sandwich at the time, which seemed like completely the wrong thing to be doing..
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
01:27 / 05.07.02
All I've got to say about "Do You Realize" is that as beautiful as it is, I think that it is outshined by some of the more ambitious and newer sounding songs on the record, like "Are You A Hypnotist?", "Fight Test" and whatever that final song is called... the record sounds great in the heat too. I did notice quite a few differences in the final mix being streamed on the Flaming Lips site, so no question about it, I'm buying this thing the week it comes out. Otherwise, I might have waited til I had more disposable income, but hey - they deserve it.
 
 
Seth
05:28 / 05.07.02
So, it looks as though Funeral in My Head, Up Above the Daily Hum and Sympathy 3000-21 didn't make the album. Does anyone know whether these will make it onto B-Sides, or whether I should download them?
 
 
Seth
05:32 / 05.07.02
BTW, on checking HMV's website for the tracklisting it appears as though Zaireeka was re-released in its original 4 CD format earlier this year.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
11:10 / 05.07.02
"Sympathy 3001-21" is now part of the second track, "One More Robot/Sympathy 3001-21". I'm sort of glad that they didn't bother keeping "Funeral in My Head" and "Daily Hum", but they are worth getting if yr a big fan, I think. I wouldn't doubt that they will show up on the "Do Ya Realize" UK singles. There's a few other stray songs floating around the net, mostly outtakes from the Soft Bulletin sessions. Look for "The Captain", "The Switch That Turned Off The Universe", "1000 Foot Hands", and the Japanese version of "Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots". There are several recordings of "Daily Hum", not just the one recorded for this new album - the songs goes back to the Soft Bulletin, and was included in some radio sessions.
 
 
Seth
16:08 / 05.07.02
It might just be me, but I seem to remember a tune about spiders showing up on the US release of The Soft Bulletin. Is this worth tracking down too?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
16:41 / 05.07.02
Oh yeah! "The Spiderbite Song" is one of my favorite songs on The Soft Bulletin, actually. It's a lovely song, but also a true story about how a freak spider bite nearly killed the bass player and broke up the band.
 
 
Nelson Evergreen
18:04 / 05.07.02
I'm incapable of attending a conversation about The Lips without getting all tearful and mentioning "Feeling Yourself Disintegrate". That song moves in mysterious ways...
 
 
Seth
14:32 / 07.07.02
I heard a rumour that it was Yoshimi from the Boredoms who inspired that name of the albums title character, and that they guest on one of the tracks. Anyone able to confirm this?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
14:37 / 07.07.02
I can confirm this - read this Rolling Stone article for a full explanation.
 
 
rizla mission
09:10 / 08.07.02
I think being in the Boredoms and Free Kitten and now inspiring a whole Flaming Lips album must put Yoshimi in the running for "coolest person on earth"..
 
 
_pin
10:26 / 08.07.02
Free Kitten?
 
 
rizla mission
10:42 / 08.07.02
Yeah, Kim Gordon's all-star non-Sonic Youth band..


MEMBERS:

Julie Cafritz (Action Swingers, Halo of Kitten, OOIOO (guest), Pussy Galore, STP)
Kim Gordon (Ciccone Youth, Kim Gordon - DJ Olive - Ikue Mori, Sonic Youth, Lucky Sperms, The Supreme Indifference)
Mark Ibold (Pavement, Dust Devils)
Yoshimi (Boredoms, OOIOO, UFO or Die)


Not quite as great as they ought to be, but worth being into for cool points.
 
  

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