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Anthrax in Florida

 
  

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grant
17:56 / 04.10.01
Just found out on freakin' CNN from the White House Press Secretary that one of my coworkers is home sick with ANTHRAX.

He's 63 years old, of British descent, lives in Lantana, Fl., just got back from a North Carolina vacation and fell ill with something mysterious.

Name wasn't out, but there's no way this new report can be about anyone BUT him.

(Doctors thought it was meningitis. Over lunch, we mentioned him - still tests going on, but no word.)

We're quietly freaking out. Or not so quietly, in some cases.

Inhalation. Not normally spread from human to human. Only 18 human cases known in American history.

It's a small office - 15 of us - in a huge, open newsroom serving all the papers. We could all, theoretically, have been exposed. Symptoms start like common cold - he's now in a "light coma."

I'm going to do some contagion research now.

Plague hits tabloids?
 
 
Frances Farmer
18:00 / 04.10.01
Grant, please go to your physician, right now. Anthrax is in no way fatal if addressed early on, and if you haven't developed symptoms, you'll be fine if you get it checked out right now. I'm sorry if I seem like a freak here, but it'll only take you a couple hours, and could save lives. I'll throw up some links.
 
 
Frances Farmer
18:11 / 04.10.01
http://nov55.com/athr.html

The above link discusses from an optimistic standpoint the relative lethality of Anthrax.
 
 
Frances Farmer
18:23 / 04.10.01
A devil's advocate to the first point of view.

Also, details data about availability, amounts, and delivery methodology :
http://www.cdiss.org/bw.htm
 
 
grant
18:32 / 04.10.01
Story has been confirmed by the corporate overlords. Two folks from the Health Dept. are gonna be here in two hours, but that's an hour and a half after we go home.

And I'm going home.

Ominous story:
http://www.ippnw.org/MGS/PSRQV2N4Nass.html
(go halfway down…)


Another ominous scenario (hypothetical): http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol5no4/inglesby.htm

Encouraging note: http://nov55.com/athr.html
 
 
grant
18:47 / 04.10.01
Frances, you are HOT.
 
 
grant
18:55 / 04.10.01
AP wire.

quote:A0720 AnthraxCase

Editors: local references include: Palm Beach County, Palm Beach, Lantana, Fla., Florida.

Man hospitalized in Palm Beach County with
anthrax|

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - A 63-year-old man has been hospitalized with pulmonary anthrax, Florida Lt. Gov. Frank Brogan said Thursday.

Anthrax has been developed by some countries as a possible biological weapon, but Brogan said there was no indication the illness was related to bioterrorism.

The Lantana, Fla. man, whose name was not
released, checked into a hospital on Tuesday and it was initially believed he had meningitis, Brogan said. But testing and X-rays showed that it was pulmonary anthrax,an extremely lethal disease. It is treated with antibiotics.

Florida Secretary of Health John Agwunobi said the disease is not contagious and there is no indication that anyone else has it. The disease, while rare, can be caught naturally.

Brogan said the man had recently traveled to
North Carolina and became ill shortly after he returned. The incubation period for the disease can be 60 days.

Tim O'Connor, spokesman for the Palm Beach health department, said officials believe the case is isolated and it is "very likely" to be fatal.

Palm Beach County health officials have scheduled a news conference Thursday afternoon to discuss the case.

Anthrax is a spore-forming bacterium often
carried by livestock that is especially virulent if inhaled. The disease
causes pneumonia and the spores germinate and spread through the lungs, releasing toxin.

There is a vaccine to prevent the disease.

Anthrax can be caught by handling infected
animals, eating contaminated meat or breathing in anthrax spores. All forms are rare, but the most recent cases - including ones in Texas and North Dakota - have been so-called cutaneous cases resulting from handling animals.

During the 20th century, only 18 cases of inhaled anthrax have been reported in the United States, the most recent in 1976.
 
 
betty woo
19:18 / 04.10.01
Frances beat me to the links, but the recommendation bears repeating: please go and get yourself checked out by a doctor, pronto.
 
 
Frances Farmer
19:20 / 04.10.01
Grant, you are hot, baby... But if you don't go see a doctor, I'll withdrawl my statement, k? Go!
 
 
Frances Farmer
20:21 / 04.10.01
http://www.naplesnews.com/00/09/florida/d503894a.htm

Link above to an article about a vial of (supposed) Bacillus Anthracis [Anthrax] found in the refrigerator of a man whose home was searched. They also found a pipe bomb.
 
 
Enamon
09:28 / 05.10.01
From what I have read from various sources it seems that Anthrax is impossible to transmit from person to person. One would have to come in contact with the diseased cattle or come in contact with Anthrax spores. Still going to the doc is a worthwhile measure to keep yourself healthy. As for how this guy got Anthrax, well maybe the cows are revolting again.
 
 
grant
09:28 / 05.10.01
The main source of concern at this point is that the Tower Day hijackers lived in Delray, probably less than 10 miles from our office. Which has a big sign on it saying "American Media".

I'm imagining there'll be another big medical meeting tomorrow and we'll get clearer ideas then.

Getting checked is on my new list of things to do. I'm calling my doc tomorrow morning, and probably getting out of work early, so I might be able to see him then....
y'know.

just in case.
 
 
grant
09:28 / 05.10.01
quote:Originally posted by betty woo:
Frances beat me to the links, but the recommendation bears repeating: please go and get yourself checked out by a doctor, pronto.


Betty, you're hot too. Never fear.

I really like the way the "pronto" lines up with the "Toronto" under your message on my screen.

He's our UFO man, Bob. Photoshop wizard.

I wonder if I'm breaking some sort of non-disclosure agreement by even mentioning this out here. Heh. Weird.
 
 
grant
12:21 / 05.10.01
Update: half the paper isn't allowed to sit at their desks today until the Health Department shows up to, uh, look for spores.
Or something.
 
 
rizla mission
13:05 / 05.10.01
this is some crazy, crazy ..er, stuff..
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
13:08 / 05.10.01
Keeping you in my thoughts man.

Once your doctor gives you a clean bill of health, treat yourself to a movie or something.
 
 
Ierne
13:27 / 05.10.01
And keep in touch, to let us know what's going on with you & Florida in general.
 
 
betty woo
13:28 / 05.10.01
Pronto! Toronto!
I hope Bob pulls through okay...
 
 
grant
14:44 / 05.10.01
We've just had a meeting with two doctors, who were reassuring to most of the staff except us, who aren't allowed to get near the desk Bob Stevens sat at. Despite the fact that it's perfectly safe. Supposedly.

So it goes.

We're going home early. One of the upshots of the meeting is there's no test your local doc can give you to see if you have anthrax if you're not presenting symptoms (i.e., the bacterial toxin is in your blood).

It also *currently* appears to be one of those availability heuristic things. Meaning, they found anthrax because they were looking for anthrax because we're on alert. Apparently lots of folks MAY have had mild cases of anthrax in the past which simply were diagnosed as meningitis or flu because no one was really looking.
The reassuring company doctors (one of whom used to make my life a nightmare when we were using him as a regular medical column consultant) also pointed out that if it was a terrorist attack, chances are more people would be sick.
Then they mentioned that Aum Shinri Kyo released anthrax and *nobody* got sick.
Then they talked about a Russian case where a lab accident released spores and 80 people got sick, 60 died.
Incubation period (from spore exposure to symptoms) ranges between 5 days and 60 days - although 5 days is a far more common interval.
 
 
Frances Farmer
16:45 / 05.10.01
Hey, grant, I heard Bob isn't in great condition. Have you heard anything else? Is he alright? Are you alright?

Please take Ierne's advice and keep in touch... I'm pretty confident all of our thoughts are with you.
 
 
sleazenation
22:05 / 05.10.01
shit. sorry, grant.

i hope everyone else is ok.

(btw this is kooky not sleaze)
 
 
Tamayyurt
22:56 / 05.10.01
Fuck dude, it's alwayssomething... I need to get outta this place!
 
 
Cherry Bomb
02:37 / 06.10.01
Oh wow!

I was just reading this thread after I'd heard about that guy, your coworker, on the news. Strange how this affects us EVERYWHERE.

I hope you and your coworkers are doing OK. You're in my thoughts tonight, kid.

Keep us updated.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
06:19 / 06.10.01
Real sorry to hear about your friend, man.
Take care.
 
 
grant
22:31 / 06.10.01
Yeah, well, the prognosis wasn't good when they just thought it was meningitis and not THE NEXT STRIKE.
If you know what I mean...
That part of the story is still developing. I eagerly await the answers Monday morning will bring - will the photo department be allowed back to their desks? (Enquiring minds want to know....)

In some ways, it seems perfectly suitable that a lifelong tabloid man would pass on amid such a flurry of rumor and wild speculation. He was one of the good ones, though. And that's the real shame.
 
 
Jack Fear
10:42 / 08.10.01
Coming in the door from the overnight shift, the missus informs me she's just heard on the radio...

Anthrax bacilllus found in the nasal passages of another Sun employee: American Media building, where our Grant works, has been closed for the moment:
http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/10/08/florida.anthrax.case/index.html

The man, who is unidentified as yet, does not have anthrax--the bacillus is on his person, but he's not (yet?) infected, and with proper treatment, he should be fine.

But still...

Grant--buddy--keep us updated, huh?

Hell of a way to start the day. You're in my prayers.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
17:03 / 08.10.01
grant, PLEASE let us know you are not the second anthrax case!!! I hope the reason we haven't heard from you is because they're forcing your whole office building to be checked out and not because you are in the hospital.

Check in as soon as possible. I know I for one am worried about you, and I'm sure I'm not alone...
 
 
Jack Fear
17:06 / 08.10.01
You're not. I've been shitting bricks all day.
 
 
shirleydoe
17:08 / 08.10.01
Thirded. Please check in Grant.

I have a cold, flu thing going on and I'm ready to go to my PCP for teh first time in years. This is a boon for hypochondriacs, let me tell you.
 
 
Ierne
17:21 / 08.10.01
Last we heard from Grant was Sunday, so here's hoping that he just hasn't been able to log on yet today...Most likely he's not at work, he's either at home or seeing the doctor.

Everyone think positive...
 
 
Not Here Still
17:40 / 08.10.01
According to this article, the man tested was in hospital anyway.

So hopefully, seeing as he posted here on Snday (and probably wasn't in hospital, therefore) it probably isn't Grant.

[post edit]

In fact, I just clicked on Jack's CNN link above, which seems to have updated - and the second man has been identified as Ernesto Blanco, a 73-year-old mailroom worker.

[ 08-10-2001: Message edited by: JB again ]
 
 
grant
18:52 / 08.10.01
Hi folks!

No, it wasn't me. Would've checked in earlier, but our building is now "sealed."

Woke up 6:30 am at my belle's house to phone call from an NPR reporter friend of mine who was in town on business.

"Well," she says, "looks like you're not going in to work today."

I was not yet awake.

Came to my apartment to scads of phone messages from my editor & county health officials.

Spent the day in a really, really long line, sweltering in the sun (except during the thunderstorm), waiting to get tested for anthrax along with the other 499+ employees of AMI.

So far, so good. Test results later this week, hopefully.

Jeannie got tested too. She had come to visit me in the office once, in the middle of August. It's that kind of thing.

My nose was swabbed and I didn't even get a lollipop. Got a fistful of Cipro, though.

Jeannie is not happy with the antibiotics. She has a sensitive tummy.

Cheese is on the list of contraindicated foodstuffs for mine. The BASTARDS!

Lord knows where the paper will be run from. Might have to commute to Miami. Might not.

So it goes.

Sorry I'm short - as you can imagine, there's a LOT of mail in me inbox, and I've been out in a line all day. Outside a building run by the same county administration that brought you Election 2000.... Comforting thought, no?

Oh, and the second spore culture came from our mail room guy. We don't know how it got to him, or how it got to Bob. The FBI is searching all of our desks (among the papers we filled out was a consent to search form).

I hope they enjoy my collection of letters from the mentally unbalanced.

Anyway, I'll try to keep you guys posted.

(New Yorkers: I see your tragedy and loss of skyline and I raise you one close brush with bioterrorism!)
 
 
Ariadne
18:57 / 08.10.01
God, I'm glad to read this - I was worried about you this afternoon!
Hope the cheese ban doesn't last too long.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
18:59 / 08.10.01
>>lets out a collective sigh of relief on behalf of the whole board<<


PHEW!!

Oh you have every right to be short, grant! We're just glad you've got that fistful of antibiotic and you seem to be doing OK!
 
 
Cherry Bomb
19:00 / 08.10.01
By the way I think we'd all agree this whole thing is pretty fucking WEIRD, non?
 
  

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