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"Anarchy 4 the Masses"

 
  

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some guy
12:00 / 04.06.02
Considering the amount of bullshitting Grant seems to do, maybe he was making the "one person" thing up? I don't think he's crawled through Barbelith for years looking at everyone's posts, you know?
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
12:31 / 04.06.02
the one person is actualy probably two people.

They were: Iao Adani who got a whole bunch of praise from Morrsion during a weeklong QA session at nextplanetover.

The other person is LookNickWaddam! who got it more than Iao did and who's brain seemed vibrate on the same frequency as grant's typewriter.

Waddam is still here. Known to a few of us as *****.


Sall true.
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
13:58 / 04.06.02
Speaking of that NextPlanetOver chat...does anyone know if that's up on the web anywhere? Because, if not, I just found a bunch of old diskettes, one of which includes both the complete transcripts and my own edited version of the transcripts from that chat, and I was strongly considering tidying one or both of them up and posting it/them on my site.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
16:23 / 04.06.02
Re; Getting the book over here, I've spoken to Pat and he says that either we can order it through www.madyakpress.com which will be air-fare-tastic on the price or hope that our specialist comic shops ordered it through Diamond. I'm hoping Gosh! wouldn't have let me down and will be going there this weekend.
 
 
Mr Tricks
20:11 / 04.06.02
Picked it up this weekend... Liked the TPB format... could certainly have used more images... Nice type treatment...

Not finished reading it...
 
 
Tom Coates
22:54 / 04.06.02
The question on my mind is whether or not it's available at any of the UK comic shops? Forbidden Planet perhaps? I've checked again on Amazon.co.uk and no luck...
 
 
Analogues On
01:32 / 05.06.02
I ordered a copy about 6 weeks ago from Forbidden Planet, who at the time knew nothing about it. In fact, I had to go through the relevant edition of Previews with the guy behind the counter just to prove to him that it existed and to get him the order reference number.
"Oh yeah", he says, "there it is after all."

In the last two weeks I've called in 3 times checking if the book has come in. "No, still no sign" says he, despite the fact that I know that it's now available and other people on the board have it.
So then I have to resort to making increasingly ludicrous phone calls pretending to be different people in order to disguise my disgust and embarrassment at hounding this poor man and his staff - who now seem to be denying its existence at all.

"Invisibles book? What, a trade paperback?"
"No, it’s more of a discussion type thing. A companion."
"Oh, like letters pages?"
"Not really. Its more of an analysis of the story"
"Oh, right. That sounds like it would be very popular. Those types of things usually sell out very quickly."
"Right. But has it actually come in yet?"
"No, I’ve never heard of it."
"But I ordered it through this shop."
"Really? All I can suggest is that you keep in contact with us. New stuff comes in all the time."

Grrrrrr.

I think I might wait another week and then order directly from the website. For the sake of my sanity you understand.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
08:20 / 05.06.02
i got it no problem in fp Glasgow. loadsacopies!
 
 
The Natural Way
08:49 / 05.06.02
Tom: it's available at Comic Showcase and Gosh! Don't know about FP.
 
 
Sandfarmer
13:36 / 05.06.02
Could someone hook me up with the ISBN number for it. I currently work in a book store and can order it that way. If I dig it, I can put it out as my staff selection. (Which means the store would order five more copies and put them on display.) I guess I'd need the author's name also. Pulisher too I guess.
 
 
CameronStewart
14:29 / 05.06.02
If you're going to do that, Sandfarmer, make sure your shop has copies of the trade paperback collections of the series itself to go along with it - the book is fairly useless on its own. It's no use recommending a supplement to something that your customers can't get in the same shop...
 
 
moriarty
14:39 / 05.06.02
Any chance of showing us some of those unused illos, Cameron?
 
 
CameronStewart
15:16 / 05.06.02
Yeah, but bear with me - I recently reorganized my office and put all my not-current artwork away, so it'll take me some time to dig it out and scan it, etc.

But yeah, I'll post them soon.
 
 
Mystery Gypt
02:01 / 06.06.02
i second cameron's note to sandfarmer -- this book, if you haven't read the series, is a total non-sequitor with some cool interviews at best and a complete bore at worst. if you've got the power to set stuff up at the store, definately have the comic trades with this thing as a sidecar. it's not really like a Twilight Zone episode guide, where the brand sells itself.

some credit to jay babcock, who originated the barbelith annotations might've been nice in the book. there's lotsa shout outs to the barbelith message board and nexus... he seems a bit ticked off about it on his site, anyway.
 
 
Sandfarmer
02:14 / 06.06.02
Cammeron, Invisibles tpb #1 is one of my current staff selections. I'm a supervisor and there is another supervisor who draws comics. We probably have the biggest and best looking comics displays of any book store in the city. The other supervisor is a merchandising genius. He makes all these kick ass signs himself. I'd love my job if it paid anything.
 
 
Mystery Gypt
03:53 / 06.06.02
so bring on the invisible staff pick table -- set up all the trades, the annotations book, and some of the slick biblios- listed in the -ography...
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
16:14 / 06.06.02
Well, I tried Gosh but they don't have any yet, though I expect all British comic shops are getting stuff in late due to the bank holiday. Anyway, when I phoned this morning the guy who answered the phone thought they would be getting their stock in tomorrow (Friday), so I'm going to try again tomorrow and, if possible, pick it up on the way to Cherry's do.

Gosh phone number appears to be; 020 7636 1011
 
 
The Natural Way
07:45 / 07.06.02
Gosh did have some on the day of release - s'where I got my copy. As did Comic Showcase. In fact, I'm going up Charing Cross Road way in a few minutes - I'll check to see if they've got any copies left.
 
 
Hieronymus
08:50 / 07.06.02
Yeah it's a fucking crime Jay Babcock's Barbelith site didn't even get mentioned. He was honestly the originator in a way, of all of this, before the Nexus was even a twinkle in ol' Tom's Ricci-like eye. Doesn't seem fair.

We used to email Jay with all our annotations, practically on the day the issue came out, in a bum rush to get them posted. Weren't no new-fangled posting capability back then.

::gets all misty-eyed:: You can even see when Iao Adonai hit the ground running.
 
 
Captain Zoom
15:07 / 07.06.02
Just a couple of thoughts while I'm not quite finished reading it.

I wish there was more GM interview stuff, but then part of me is glad there isn't. The stuff with the artists is cool, but they keep referring to how good Grant's scripts are, so now I want to see them even more.

If nothing else, this book is making me want to go back and read the series again. There's a few things I hadn't noticed first time around, or maybe I did but I've forgotten them. I haven't read the panel-by-panel yet, but maybe I will in concert with the comics themselves.

The commentaries by the authors are interesting, sounding much like what went on here after each new issue came out, and provoking even more nostalgia on my part. Let's hope "The Filth" provides such stellar discourse.

I can see how this book might piss off some people. On the one hand, it's a guidebook of sorts to a series that perhaps shouldn't have one. I always found that any startling revelations I would have about the Invisibles would come when I was alone and reading the issue a fourteenth time, or after a bit of debate here. Having said that, though, the series to me was always about points of view, and seeing it from someone else's in a well put-together volume such as this is a treat.

Patrick, if you're still out there lurking, I'm really enjoying the book. Good work.

Zoom.
 
 
Ellis says:
20:41 / 08.06.02
Tom- it's available in Comic's Showcase, I picked up a copy earlier.
 
 
dlotemp
23:18 / 09.06.02
Took a weekend holiday with the missus and brought Anarchy 4 the Masses along as reading. I hope the writers are lurking because I would like to praise them for an exceptional book. Great design and useful notes that I didn't find obtrusive to the actual material. It is really helpful for those individuals who want to delve deeper into the supercontext and need an aid. I, for instance, couldn't decipher who some of the characters were in some sequences until I read this book. The old lightbulb went off in my head several times while studying the notations. Big pluses for the script excerpts and interviews discussing the Artist jam fiasco. It cleared up a lot of clutter in my mind and allowed me to make greater connections between the various links in the Invisibles.

Open note to Ashley Wood - Ashley, if you're reading this, I respect you as an artist but your contributions to the Invisibles were unnecessarily incomprehenshible. It wasn't subordinate to the Invisibles supercontext, although it certainly told a version of the events.

editorial note - the nitpicker in me would like to point out a number of grammatical errors here and there within the book. I noticed a date written as 1987 when I think it was supposed to be 1997. It didn't terribly detract from the work but I figured that you'd want to know since you're both proud of this book. If you need specifics, I'll gladly provide them after I go through the damn thing a second time with the red pencil.

Great stuff and a welcome companion.
 
 
Mr Wolfe
19:31 / 10.06.02
I really liked Ashley Wood's panels - subconscious style slipping the ideas in when you're not looking, what?
 
 
dlotemp
01:01 / 11.06.02
To Phil knows!:

Just goes to show that every day is like Rashomon.


What view are you on?


Cheers
 
 
ghadis
13:32 / 11.06.02
Got the book yesterday and it kept me up way too late last night which is always a good sign. Good to hear some of the artists views on the book and the big Morrison interview was great. Like some others said more pics would have been nice and the typos were out in force but thats small stuff really. Although one or two glaring errors were annoying. Considering Morrisons' been into magick for years and even wrote a play on Crowley he really should have known that it was The Book of the Law and not The Book of Lies that Crowley channeled in Egypt. But i guess that could have been a cock up in the transcription. Great stuff averall though...Cheers Patrick
 
 
FinderWolf
15:27 / 11.06.02
Is this the book that's supposed to be like the Anotated Invisibles? Who publishes it? Is it out in the USA? I haven't seen anything about it since I read a tiny bit about months ago, and Midtown Comics in NY hasn't had it. (altho' maybe it's out tomorrow?)

is it like that KIMOTA! annotated Miracleman book that came out a while back (published by TwoMorrows)?
 
 
Mr Wolfe
18:56 / 11.06.02
What view am I on?

The one you get standing on the surfboard riding chaos.
 
  

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