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Kali, Queen of Kitteh
02:43 / 12.05.02
Dear Barbelith, I wish to confess a sin without the guise of another fictionsuit. If I do, will I not be alone? Honestly. Without subterfuge or guile.
 
 
m. anthony bro
03:03 / 12.05.02
sure, I'll play.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
03:04 / 12.05.02
I think that you can confess anything to us and we'll still love you.

Unless it's that you are really Cardinal Law and you think everything you did was justified.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
03:27 / 12.05.02
Kali, i will confess 1 equal or greater sin/not-sin should you choose to.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
05:15 / 12.05.02
Because I could, my dear Barbeliethians, I fooled around nearly a month back with a beautiful Englishman.

I feel horrible that it happened since I profess to be--and am--in love with someone else.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:51 / 12.05.02
You know, Kals, perhaps you and the Spike should have a crack at polyamory.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
15:29 / 12.05.02
Actually Kali, i did the same thing xmas before last.
Felt like a pile of poo for a few weeks, until i told the woman i love and currently live with what happened.

I still feel bad about it to this day and find myself slapping myself when i look at other women.

hang in there Kali, truth is the best medicine in situations like this, but in the end it comes down to what will make you feel proper
 
 
Ganesh
16:30 / 12.05.02
Who was the "beautiful Englishman", Elijah?
 
 
that
16:32 / 12.05.02
Oh, christ, that actually made me laugh out loud...
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
02:51 / 13.05.02
You know, it's not that I regret what happened. I don't. It's just that instances where I do things of this nature makes me wonder why I do it. Is it something "inherited" from my father? Or is it the attention, the excitement, the chase?

I literally had to make myself cut off the English guy cold. I knew that if I kept answering his calls, or calling him, then it would just lead to something bad. And it wasn't like anything he was giving me wasn't anything I could get ten times better with Spike.

I had mentioned to a friend that being with this guy actually scared me as he seemed he could bring out the worst of my seamy tendencies. He knew that I was attracted to the danger of letting him dominate me, if you will. It was almost getting a little Lynchian.
 
 
Ganesh
10:53 / 13.05.02
And you know you can get "dominated" in a dangerous, Lynchian way ten times better by Spike...
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:00 / 13.05.02
Only a pushy waiter brings the reality check with the coffee, 'Nesh...

Damn fine coffee, mind.
 
 
Sax
11:29 / 13.05.02
...and still expects a tip afterwards.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
12:09 / 13.05.02
he could bring out the worst of my seamy tendencies

God. I had a rolling screw-up (it hardly merits the name 'relationship') with someone, exactly like that. We were both seeing other people when we met, and we shook hands and pretty much knew it was going to happen. We drank an entire bottle of some clear liquid which has no name and woke up in bed, grinning and almost delerious with alcohol poisoning. There was a ghastly row...and then it happened again, and again. I think we burned about three relationships apiece on that one. And you know, neither of us ever thought about actually dating the other one in a serious way.

Seedy appeal. Hangover satisfaction. Burned coffee taste. Sexy b-b-b-bad.

It was like smoking Lebanese Marlboros. We did it because it hurt and felt gravel-great and self-destructive and alive.

And it sucked. And it was cold, and dark, and barren.

And it stopped. And now we're friends. And her new boyfriend won't have me in the house.

[shrug]

Nor would I.

You telling us for absolution or advice or...?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:29 / 13.05.02
For the spiritual enrichment of all Englishmen abroad. Obviously.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
12:52 / 13.05.02
I believe Nick's description was accurate about the three weeks I decided to delve into Ian's little world. He's a local musician (unfortunately, a quite popular one), tends at a bar considered cool by the masses (which I hate), but is also very very pretty. Even by pretty standards.

Add to that he chatted me up--at the coffee house I was working at of all places--and an abiding interest in him since I never knew who he was, then bam.

I don't need absolution. I don't need advice because this is no longer in existence. (Though being afraid I'd do it again raises a red flag in my head.)

There was no commitment to this arrangement. There was no option of dating. And I suppose that's one reason why it intrigued me so.
 
 
bitchiekittie
13:02 / 13.05.02
I have no confessions, my life is (often regrettably to others) an open book

and may I say I adore the term "cockknocker"? its one of my favorite traffic-swears
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
13:11 / 13.05.02
Yeah, it's a term I have taken to using recently.

Now off to eat pancakes!
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
13:26 / 13.05.02
Hm. Enjoy your pancakes, but don't erase this from your mind. There's a reason, somewhere, why it happened. You probably ought to figure out what that is. In my case, I allowed it to happen when I could have said 'no' because it was the only way I had to express the fury I was carrying around at how my partner of the time treated me - a fury which I blanked so totally I was barely aware of it.

Sorry, babe. Had to share.
 
 
Sax
13:30 / 13.05.02
I just killed a man. Put a gun against his head, pulled the trigger. Now he's dead.

Whew, that's a load off my mind.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
14:49 / 13.05.02
Almost lunch and still no pancakes.

Anyway, I get what you're saying, Nick. I do wonder what my reasoning is to carry on a torrid if temporary fling with someone who is not my partner. Are there certain needs that are not being met, but I have glossed over things so totally that I don't realize it? Is this act a backhanded way of revenge for something else? I have no idea. Frankly, this side of me often scares me. It is completely amoral and has no regard for anything but what it wants at that moment. While that only slightly varies from my usual bratty persona, this is something that's altogether darker.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
14:57 / 13.05.02
Don't look too hard. The answer is staring you in the face - that's how these things work, I think. Old friend of mine had three years of dreaming she was buried underground and suffocating before she connected the dreams with the fact that her boyfriend barely let her out of the house if he could help it.

But don't be too scared of that dark side, either. It's an alarm bell, a saftey valve, and a pleasure all rolled into one. It's only ignoring it which is a problem. Made any bad deals lately?
 
 
w1rebaby
15:00 / 13.05.02
I don't think the idea of "sides of personality" is a useful one. It's you that's doing it, after all; you were the same person then as you are now. (Approximately.)
 
 
The Natural Way
15:05 / 13.05.02
Back when I was a ROC, I once got hungry and ate my own young. I plucked their plump, juicy, heads from their necks like plums from a branch. Gobbled them up. All gone. I feel a bit guilty about it now. Let's share.
 
 
The Natural Way
15:05 / 13.05.02
And then I had sex w/ my uncle.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:07 / 13.05.02
It was Ian Astbury, wasn't it? Crikey.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
15:20 / 13.05.02
What exactly do you mean by "bad deals"?

I'm trying to think what's staring me in the face.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
15:33 / 13.05.02
If I knew exactly, I'd be you. But I wasn't able to deal with what I was feeling any other way. I almost didn't have words for it. It was like a volcano in the head, and poison in the heart. I was looking for damnation.

Could be work, could be love, could be family, could be anything. You might have to feel your way around the edge of it. If you're doing this like I was (and there's nothing to say you are) there's a big, white gap in your head which you just can't look straight at. Everything else ripples around to hide it. Take ten deep breaths and then write down five things which scare you, really quickly. Then turn the paper over and write down five things you hate. And I don't mean don't like, I mean visceral loathe-hate.

Then get a new piece of paper and do the same thing, slowly, with things you enjoy and things you want - and not the things you think you ought to write. That's why you do it fast. It's about what's on your mind before you correct it.

This isn't for anyone else to see. Not ever. It's just for you.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
19:14 / 13.05.02
Will try this. I am fully aware of my tendency for self-destruction. Let's just see how far it goes, eh?

One thing that did occur to me as I was at the gym was that perhaps Ian provided something that Spike doesn't seem to be particularly interested in: spontaneity, urgency in passion. During these trysts there was no empty conversation, just complete and total sensation. Again, I feel compelled to use the word urgency.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
19:46 / 13.05.02
And the word "Spike".

Look, it's not just me who finds this worrying, is it?
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
19:48 / 13.05.02
Finds what worrying, Haus?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:15 / 13.05.02
*sigh*

That you have, for as long as we have known you, subsumed your identity almost totally into Spike. That you are incapable of discussing anything, to the best of my knowledge, without mentioning his name and, where less than totally irrelevant, his opinion. That this whole confession thing is, at best, an opportunity to use somebody else as a way to offering another perspective on your relationship with Spike, and at worst a desperate plea for him to treat you as anything other than a twentysomething woman prepared to turn up, have sex with him, cook for him and not demand too much or he can just withdraw affection and leave you totally eviscerated, and to stop taking you for granted, rolled into a tube, shoved into the neck of a bottle and thrown into the none-too-concealing waters of Barbelith.

Unless I misread Nick, this may have been a part of what he was hinting at, but was far too nice and polite to mnention, and as such his appeals were totally ineffectual. We're not talking about a tendency for romantic, Byronic self-destruction. We're talking about dire suburban self-abnegation, a very different and far less interesting experience.

Essentially.
 
 
Ganesh
20:16 / 13.05.02
I agree with SPIKE Nick: don't look too SPIKE hard, the problem's probably SPIKE right slap-bang in your face, so obvious it's SPIKE subliminal.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
20:25 / 13.05.02
I draw on posters on the Tube. I'm mad, me.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
21:00 / 13.05.02
When I was in fourth grade I was part of an angry mob that chased down and beat the shit out of another fourth grader. Detroit elementary schools are weird.
 
  

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