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Anarchy has too many rules

 
 
gozer the destructor
12:43 / 09.05.02
Just read this on Urban75,

This is what a Mr D Grace has written in a letter to the Express Re anachists:

"I find great comfort during these times of rising violent crime that we can still rely on our home-grown anarchists to be a feeble bunch in comparison with their unpredictable international brethen. I don't want to give advice to the 400 or so "hardcore thugs bent on destruction" that we are perennially warned about but perhaps an elemant of surprise is called for when attempting to subvert the establishment.

"When will you be undermining the Capitalist ethos this year, Tarquin?"

"Mayday, brother"

"Whereabouts will the Western fat-cats suffer the backlash of the underclass?"

"London, Comrade."

"And what cunning disguise will you adopt to deflect the State's drones from uncovering their imminent overthrow?"

"Well this year we'd be all in black, wearing face masks of some sort, Doc Martens and with our hair in dreads"

"That'll show the oppressors. Let's hope there aren't 6000 coppers there to stop you."

maybe I'm naive in matters anarchic but would you not be able to cause more chaos on a wet Wednesday in March, especially if you were disguised as shoppers or office workers and you had not alerted the police to the fact that you were going to do it?

Or is it that without confrontation and the cameras filming it , there's not much to boast about when you get back to Eton?


has he missed the point or hit the nail on the head? I thought it was amusing whatever stand you take...
 
 
Shortfatdyke
14:35 / 09.05.02
mr d grace has a cynicism that's quite breathtaking, i think. how can mass action be, well, mass, if it is not organised in some way? i've never met any anarchists that went to eton, a few were middle class but surely change needs to come from all levels of society? i don't remember reading about anti capitalism being simply a working class revolt.

the only problems i've had with anarchists were from some quite literally thinking in black and white. a whole different problem.
 
 
SMS
15:11 / 09.05.02
the only problems i've had with anarchists were from some quite literally thinking in black and white.

Literally, huh? I wonder how you do this.


Mr D Grace may have something of a point, but I would guess that his problem is that he lumps anarchists into one category. You see this a lot when someone accuses "the democrats," or "the republicans" of being inconsistent, as though they were controled by a single mind.
 
 
Shortfatdyke
15:55 / 09.05.02
SMS - without wanting to drift off the point of this thread too much, i was referring to my fanzine days. i committed the heinous crime of publishing one on glossy paper, in two colours. and got told that basically unless it was black on white, then i was not a proper anarchist.
 
 
Cat Chant
16:01 / 09.05.02
1. The point of the May Day protests is to be visible. A bunch of subversive stuff does indeed go on on wet wednesdays without all the publicity.

2. It appears that 'anarchists' are *only* visible if they are dressed as Mr D Grace says they are, since a whole load of people on the protests didn't look anything like this. Similarly, Mr D Grace's premises are illogical:

a) I can spot an anarchist who conforms to a stereotype, when they are on a large, well-publicized and annual gathering.
b) Therefore, I know what the anarchists are up to - and that is dressing according to a stereotype and gathering at a well-publicized venue once a year.
c) Therefore, there are no anarchists doing anything else ever.

Politics is happening in fragmented and crazy ways these days: it doesn't have to be in a format Mr D Grace can recognize to be effective. In fact, when it *is* in a format he can recognize, it is not effective in the way he seems to think we want it to be (I don't think *anyone* thinks that the May Day protests *themselves* are going to bring down capitalism).

And finally, not everyone who goes out and protests against capitalism is an anarchist. I'm not, for one.

(Apologies for dropping the listing, but I'm pissed off and in a hurry and can't fanny about with my prose style like some kind of bourgeois, two-colour-fanzine printing, capitalist. [Joke.])
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
16:38 / 09.05.02
SFD say; i've never met any anarchists that went to eton, a few were middle class but surely change needs to come from all levels of society? i don't remember reading about anti capitalism being simply a working class revolt.

Ahhh, but according to the Daily Mail and the Express, all trouble at Mayday and such event sis caused by overprivelidged rich kids so therefore overthrowing the state is obviously a game to them because they wouldn't really want to do that so that's why anarchists are evil.

Still, at least the person in the Daily Mail that wrote the main opinion piece this year didn't try to claim that if you were against capitalism you were a Communist and should go back to Stalinist Russia...
 
  
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