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Sonic Youth - Murray Street

 
  

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rizla mission
15:15 / 29.04.02
It's called Murrey Street, it's 7 songs in 45 songs, and it's .. not mindblowing but pretty cool.

Not a great step forward for them, but it's another slow-burning, psychedelic '90s Sonic gem in the vein of Washing Machine and NYC Ghosts & Flowers..

Most of the songs are fairly long, the most obvious reference points in their past work are 'The Diamond Sea' and 'Free City Rhyme'.

Sadly, it drops all the things I liked best about NYC Ghosts (the poetry, the post-rock noise freak-out, the introduction of electronics/funny noises) but it's still pretty enjoyable.

My favourite track is 'Radical Adults Lick Godhead', a veritable storm of stream of consciousness pop culture refing lyrics and freaky free-jazz guitar (on a Sonic Youth song! never!).

Of course, you probably all downloaded it of something 9 months ago or don't give a shit, but I still think I'm pretty boss for hearing it before the official release..
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:52 / 29.04.02
I haven't heard it yet - it's not on Audiogalaxy just yet. A few of the songs are on AG in live version only - "Sympathy for the Strawberry", "The Empty Page", "Disconnection Notice" - oh, and an early studio version of "Plastic Sun". They were good, but I didn't really pay much attention to them cos they weren't studio recordings. "Disconnection Notice" sounded pretty nice, though.
 
 
rizla mission
16:01 / 29.04.02
ah, so it is kind of a scoop then? (I bought it in a 2nd hand shop for £3, so I guess some 'industry insider' must have really hated it).

On first listen, 'Disconnection Notice' sounds bizarrely like a recent Fugazi song .. y'now, one of their quiet ones.. 'Plastic Sun' and 'The Empty Page' both sound like they could have been on Experimental Jet Set Trash.. and 'Sympathy for the Strawberry' is a full-on 11 minute epic..
 
 
Utopia
18:08 / 29.04.02
ooh, rizla, how i envy you... sad to hear that they dropped all that stuff from nyc g/f, but i guess it's better as a one time deal. am i the only sy fan who thinks nyc g/f was one of their better albums? perfect summer music.
 
 
grant
18:23 / 29.04.02
NYC is a splendid thing.

Anything I could do to inspire, perhaps, a swap for a copy o' this album, Riz??
 
 
videodrome
20:19 / 29.04.02
'Disconnection Notice' is certainly a Fugazi song title if I've ever heard one...
 
 
rizla mission
10:10 / 30.04.02
Utopia: i think NYC G&F is probably the best album they've done in the 90s.

Grant: sure, if you like. It'll be an old fashioned tape copy though.
 
 
rizla mission
10:11 / 30.04.02
Also got a chance to listen to the album's longest track, 'Karen', which has a fade-out so long it makes Expressway to Yr. Skull seem like Judy is a Punk.. but is quite magnificent for it.
 
 
Cochese
11:15 / 30.04.02
nnnr! You lucky fist. Not that you were talking about it, but I think Experimental Jet Set, Trash and very long title is one of the bestest 90s SY things, and then Goo. Although NYCG&F it do be good. Aren't you glad you know all that?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
17:03 / 01.05.02
I've got about half of the studio cuts right now - "Disconnection Notice", "Plastic Sun", "Karen Revisited", "Radical Adults Lick Godhead" and "Empty Page" - no sign of the studio "Sympathy For The Strawberry" or "Rain On Tin" just yet.

Nice stuff, I'm particularly fond of "The Empty Page", which has a really nice melodic motif, and "Radical Adults..." for it's horns courtesy of Borbetomagus. It's way too early to say, but I definitely like the record, about as much as I did NYC Ghosts & Flowers anyway. It's certainly not in the same league as Daydream Nation, Sister, or Washing Machine, which are the best SY LPs in my opinion...
 
 
Utopia
17:35 / 01.05.02
cochese: i say 1)NYC G&F, 2)Experimantal Jet Set, Trash and No Star, and 3) either Goo or Washing Machine. no idea how A Thousnad Leaves fits in there though...
 
 
Utopia
17:37 / 01.05.02
oh wait, NYC G&F was released in 2000. does it really matter?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
18:01 / 01.05.02
entirely self-indulgent - The best of Sonic Youth, in order of greatness.

1. Sister
2. Washing Machine
3. Daydream Nation
4. Evol
5. Sonic Youth EP
6. Confusion Is Sex / Kill Yr. Idols
7. NYC Ghosts and Flowers
8. Dirty
9. Murray Street
10. Hold That Tiger
11. Experimental Jet Set Trash And No Star
12. A Thousand Leaves
13. Goo
14. Ciccone Youth - The White(y) Album
15. SYR 2
16. Bad Moon Rising
17. SYR 1
18. TV Shit EP
19. The Walls Have Ears
20. Master-Dik EP
21. SYR 5
22. SYR 3
23. Sonic Death
24. SYR 4
25. Made In USA
 
 
Utopia
18:32 / 01.05.02
great list, but Murray Street at #9? can't wait to hear it!
 
 
grant
20:30 / 01.05.02
Ciccone Youth makes the list but Goo doesn't?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
23:07 / 01.05.02
That was an error on my part, it should be 13, between A Thousand Leaves and Ciccone Youth. I was moving things around, and I lost track.

I have the entire Murray Street LP now - I'm still absorbing it, but I've got to say that I think "Karen Revisited" is INCREDIBLE, one of the best SY songs ever. It's shimmering and beautiful, and Lee Renaldo really steals the whole record with his vocals on this one.
 
 
Utopia
02:29 / 02.05.02
oh man, i gotta get on win mx soon!
 
 
rizla mission
09:40 / 02.05.02
Equally self-indulgent and petty, my order:

Daydream Nation
Sister
Evol
Goo
Confusion is Sex
New York City Ghosts..
Bad Moon Rising
Sonic Death
Dirty
Washing Machine
Murray Street
1000 Leaves
Experimental Jet-Set..

All good though, even the one's at the bottom, and the top 5 are absolutely incomparable..
 
 
faintwhitelights
15:08 / 06.05.02
more interesting i'm waiting to hear the finale of this supposed nyc trilogy record thing as well as murray street. to see what they're trying to achieve with the trio.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:18 / 06.05.02
I've been listening to Murray Street a lot, and I really think that if I were to make that list again, it would be #5. Whoever noted that "Disconnection Notice" sounds a LOT like some recent Fugazi songs is right on. Along with "Karen Revisited", which I think is one of my favorite SY songs now, I think "The Empty Page" is another all-time great SY tunes. I love how sunny day pretty that song is, especially when Thurston sings things like "these are the words, but not the truth" - the songs is half "Sunday" and half "Dirty Boots" to my ears... I would bet that this song is the single.

I'm really looking foward to seeing them on tour for this, especially since they are playing some pretty good oldies lately.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
22:10 / 06.05.02
ooooo! makes me want to see them now!

flux, where did you dl the tracks from? i can't really find any of them on audiogalaxy...
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
23:23 / 06.05.02
1. The Empty Page

2. Disconnection Notice

3. Rain on Tin

4. Karen Revisited

5. Radical Adults Lick Godhead Style

6. Plastic Sun

7. Sympathy for the Strawberry

I have no idea why Audiogalaxy has made it so difficult to look up these songs, though they are all online and on many, many harddrives...
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
11:46 / 07.05.02
Cheers for the links Flux. All sounds good to my ears, so far.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
10:51 / 30.05.02
I can't stop listening to this record.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
16:17 / 15.06.02
Those of you who have good, DSL-or-faster connections should really check out the webcast archive of the band rehearsing for the upcoming tour. It's really cool to see them fucking around, discussing technical issues and altering arrangements, watching newbie member Jim O'Rourke interact with the rest of the band, and just looking at the big racks of guitars behind them.

And the best news of all: they were rehearsing "Candle" from Daydream Nation, which hasn't been played live since 1994. Yes!
 
 
rizla mission
13:44 / 16.06.02
ooh .. I wish I could watch/hear that.. I need another big SY fix after the sad news that I'm missing the tour..
 
 
_pin
10:04 / 17.06.02
I guess you'll just have to make the fuck do with seeing their All Tomorrow's Parties in LA then won't you?

Bitch.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
10:13 / 17.06.02
Just one week now. Oh yes.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:05 / 17.06.02
Oh my god - I'm so envious of the lucky people in Salzburg who got to see SY play this setlist two days ago:

Bull in the Heather
Cotton Crown
Eric's Trip
The Empty Page
Plastic Sun
Rain on Tin
Kissability
Karen Revisited
Radical Adults Lick Godhead Style
Drunken Butterfly
Sympathy for the Strawberry
--
Disconnection Notice
Making the Nature Scene
Inhuman

Still, no "Candle" just yet...but wow. That's a great show. Kotton Krown! Eric's Trip! Karen Revisited! Nature Scene! Inhuman! Wow.

Needless to say, I'm heavy into SY right now.
 
 
rizla mission
15:27 / 17.06.02
Cotton Crown! Nature Scene! ooohhhh...
 
 
Baz Auckland
09:08 / 19.06.02
Is anyone else going to see them in Shepherd's Bush this weekend?

Daydream Nation is the only one I own, but from what I've heard of the new album, I need to get some of the others...
 
 
_pin
09:13 / 19.06.02
I managed to pick this up yesterday, but I still haven't heard the fucker, which pisses the shit out of me.

Is it even meant to be out yet? There were two copies hidden in the "new records" section of HMV a last week, and yesterday tehre was only one in the SY section (didn't even have it's own "Murray Street" marker) and Flux says it isn't due for a while in America- what?!

Anyway. After this, I move down FLux's list of their best records and get them.

But which of the SYR's?
 
 
_pin
09:15 / 19.06.02
Err... by which I meant "which one does what?" the freaky Japanese dejay vs. Kim Gorden?! Which one is that>
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
11:55 / 19.06.02
Pin, that's SYR5, the most recent in the series. It's Kim Gordon with DJ Olive and Ikue Mori. This is what Thurston Moore has to say about it on the SY store site:


Taking a breather from the snazz that is/was Free Kitten (Miss Julie birthing Alice and teaching inner city high school, Yoshimi about 10,000 miles away and Mark Ibold aswamp in the madness that is Pavement) Sonic Youth’s femme-mystere has created a distinctly NEW trio of spontaneous composition and prose. Since reclaiming the electric guitar (her original instrument with Sonic Youth) and developing a newfound post-Patty Waters free-vox technique she has enjoined her vision with the improvisational meta-talents of Ikue Mori (ex-drummer of no-wave legends DNA — currently in a class by herself with other-world sampling) and DJ Olive (he of the wizardly WE, coiner of the ill term “illbient” and regarded by those in the heavy underground of post-beat turntable/drum + whatever as “the heaviest”.

Together they hit the local boards throughout 1999 and created a unified concept of sound/energy dynamix. They recorded with engineer Wharton Tiers and mixmaster Jim O’Rourke for what will be the first recording on SYR not by Sonic Youth proper (a situation which will be, possibly, expanded upon). The results, which also feature the magic fingers of Cibo Mato’s Yuka Honda on a track, are at once sensuous, elegant and completely blistering. This is truly the new illprovisation rising up from ground zero.


Like I said to you earlier, I think you should focus on getting the proper SY LPs before moving on to the SYR series and side projects.
 
 
Locust No longer
19:50 / 19.06.02
With every thing I listen to you would think I would really like Sonic Youth.... But I don't. I bought the Goo LP in vain attempt to make myself like them, but they were so drony. I like the freak outs but I would rather listen Keiji Haino I guess. What am I missing?
 
  

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