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League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Part 2

 
  

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The Natural Way
10:20 / 18.07.02
Link fucked. Oh, just go to comics continuum and dig it up yrself. You'll be happy you did.
 
 
The Natural Way
10:53 / 18.07.02
yawn: "moore does the 9 panel grid better than anyone else dunty?"

But More (ho. ho.) to the point, Moore always gets fantastic artists on board, something Morrison still has trouble w/. O'Neil and Moore together! Oh it just makes me want to fight w/ FISTS! Moore has such a good sense of drama - the fuckin' craft, mate! The CRAFT!
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
12:34 / 18.07.02
Yeah. I remember reading an interview with Moore and he was describing the opening scene of gentlemen on mars and I thought, ‘wow!’.

Now I’ve seen it, I’m thinking,

‘Wow wee!’
 
 
Jack Fear
12:42 / 18.07.02
"Gulliver" would be Lieutenant Gulliver Jones.
 
 
The Natural Way
11:35 / 25.07.02
It's out.

And it's skill.
 
 
sleazenation
14:03 / 25.07.02
Actually i was kinda disappointed - it struck me more of a promo than a first issue. Yes there is lots of exposition on the run and things being shown rather than told but what actually happened could have been shortened to 4 pages without loosing much.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:25 / 25.07.02
Barbelith seems so fucking obsessed w/ everything happening now. I liked the stuff on Mars, I liked the pace - it created an atmosphere that would've been sorely lacking if the strip had been reduced to four pages.

Mars = WAR. We got war in spades.

Will go into more detail later.
 
 
Chuckling Duck
15:09 / 25.07.02
Must . . . decode . . . Martian . . . language . . .
 
 
klint
16:56 / 25.07.02
Annotations for issue one.

Not a whole lot happens in this issue. More activity than action. But it's beautifully drawn. Come to think of it, big splash-pages and fight scenes were staples of the first series, too. I mean, not a whole hell of a lot happened in part one either. But it's still fun. Sort of like Where's Waldo? for book geeks.
 
 
The Natural Way
18:50 / 25.07.02
Now, this is the thing:

It makes me grumble, all this waffling about nothing happening/things don't progress fast enough.

Why the pace was wonderful (and why 4 page siege would've been dreadful):

Atmosphere building -

the slowly descending carpet (I can practically hear the orchestra drift into uncertain, slightly eerie/haunting keys - softer now, post credits).

the masked bedouin (who/what the fuck is he?), meeting with the alien warrior in the sand.

and over the horizon - an ominous fanfare - the armies of Mars ready for battle.

the bedouin and his companion making their way through the camp. Moss Eisley ambience as the aliens click, bark and grunt, unsettled and ready for battle around them.

Need I go on? This is pure cinema. Forget the "Where's Waldo?" stuff - though it does add to the fun - the ambience, the pace.....there's nothing like a good fight to get the audience hooked.

And what a fight:

the army of "little green men" galloping up the abyss (it's attention to detail like this that makes Moore rock)

the devastating tripod and the equally devastating and unearthly Sorn

In fact, the sheer mass of alien races as they storm the outer wall: mmmmm

the realisation that the Molluscs are from....elsewhere and that they're heading for Earth. Darkness descending.

And our wordless introduction to the main players.

Just left me gasping for more. AND IT SHOULD DO.

The whole thing gave me the shivers.

"May Ares be with you."

Mars invoked.

Get ready.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
18:58 / 25.07.02
I'm with you, Runcy!

Tripods - brrrr! Moore's best stuff always gives me chills...
 
 
Spaniel
21:22 / 25.07.02
Bloody right!

Cracking prologue to another (undoubtedly) cracking run.

Love Moore so much... want to kiss him.

Also love Kevin.
 
 
Mr Tricks
23:14 / 25.07.02
indeed... Great great great stuff!!!

Is this the same Gulliver of Lillyput?

Loved the use of varried races on Mars, right down to the tripods of War of the Worlds!!!

Was that crater the one in Russia, must be.

will this connect with the back up story of the first series? I wonder...
 
 
klint
23:48 / 25.07.02
Runce - I didn't mean to say that I thought it could have been 4 pages. but frankly, not much happened. Introduce a few characters, big fight. But I still loved it and don't think it could have been any shorter. This book is all about novelty and atmosphere... there's not really much depth compared to Moore's "serious" work like Watchmen and From Hell. Nor is there likely meant to be much.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
08:09 / 26.07.02
runce. fly and the crew who agree:

what about the sense of gravity in the carpet sequence, when he steps off it first time and just stands there?

yosss!!

all excellent.

Its off to a better start than book one anyway.
 
 
The Natural Way
08:35 / 26.07.02
PAT: I believe the crater's in Woking - that's where the invasion really kicks off. The city in the distance is London. Not "Gulliver", GULLIVAR (see Jack Fear's link on the previous page). And what backstory do you mean? There's a few. But, undoubtedly, yes.

Klint: was almagamating yr response w/ sleazenation's. His 4 page idea was a bit sucky. My first instinct was to gush, and I can't understand the mind that thought it better to critique.

Oh, and another thing:

Gullivar.... Shades of T.E. Lawrence. See! See the excellence!

And the guide to the world of LOTR's fandabidosi too.
 
 
glassonion
09:46 / 26.07.02
yeah questions though, mostly about the almanac. the wagner bunyan and shakespeare is all pretty clear but: who are the caswell family and why was 1911 their annus horribillis? Where does the Bellman expedition come from? are the Vril-ya just some Bulwer-Lytton thing? is the apple tree at kew the lifetree from the first narnia book? and what about the house in Ireland that's similar to mcgreg. Mathers' but more apocalyptic? hgwells is getting an onion-shaped cock between his ancient pages this week. Brain fans COMBINE! answer that!
 
 
The Natural Way
11:55 / 26.07.02
Well, to start us off, I think the house in Ireland's exactly what it says on the tin: "The House on the Borderland" (author: William Hope Hodgeson)

The Vril-ya are indeed the creation of Lytton (beloved of conspiracy freaks everywhere), but as for the "Bellman Expedition"...hmmm....carny find nuttin.

I may sound like an ignoramous, but who's "Christian"?
 
 
glassonion
12:05 / 26.07.02
the 'pilgrim' of john bunyan's the pilgrim's progress. read a moore piece on psychogeography where he traced the origin of the entire trend re: england back to that first ambulant visionary.
 
 
Spaniel
12:24 / 26.07.02
Yossss! Indeed!

I too loved the gravity, which brings me to a bigger point.
On the subject of shorter, naysayers need to spend alot more time marvelling at all the detail in all those nice panels that Mr O'Neill done did for us. Whole thing feel like more of a mouthful if you take your time.

As for Moscow, c'mon mate, this is the LOEG - defending the Empire from ghastly foreigners and whatnot. Anyway, War of The Worlds starts in Woking.

Woking. Ace.
 
 
The Natural Way
13:21 / 26.07.02
I thought so, onion, I just didn't have a copy of "Progress" to hand (and didn't want to look thick if I got it wrong). Must be around here somewhere - this is the house of the church sidesman, don't you know?
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
13:45 / 26.07.02
>>Woking. Ace. <<

My home-town. The only cool thing about it is that it that the tourist board beats the 'Home of War of the Worlds' drum like crazy, with a halfscale alien tripod close to the town centre, and a mural proudly displaying the town getting the shit kicked out of it.
They neglect to mention that the reason HG Wells destroyed Woking first in the book is because he hated the fucking place. As do I. And Paul Weller.
 
 
Spaniel
13:52 / 26.07.02
Love the parochial, intimate feeling not town itself.

Used to go to Woking as a kid. My Dad lived there. Not familar with the modern day incarnation. Suspect it might be shit. Although, I like the weirdness of Surrey: all cricket greens and middle-class kids with bongs.

All that and Ballard's ultimate expression of contemporary England just round the corner - being Heathrow and surrounding environs.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:57 / 26.07.02
The redoubtable Jess Nevins has begun annotating LoEG 2.

Expanded version hither.

Jess rocks. We need him here at Barbelith.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
14:20 / 26.07.02
Fecund - there's a shiny glow around yer suit.

nice.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:25 / 26.07.02
But Jack's has the biggest glow: thanks Jack.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:31 / 26.07.02
I know I'm jumping the gun by, like, a skillion years, but....BEAT LEAGUE! MUST HAVE NOW!
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
14:36 / 26.07.02
wot about a NOW league?

I want that.

Now.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
14:39 / 26.07.02
theres been many a time when I thought morrison had read summat by moore and subconsciously or otherwise, created his own take on that thing he read.

With the league I believe we have an example of the reverse.

League seems like Grant's idea of the Invisible college through the centuries as scribed by the beardy wierdy.

But then Moore's been fannying around with such theories for a while I suppose - yknow - recurring fractals through space/time etc.
 
 
Spaniel
14:48 / 26.07.02
How about some kind of... Justice League, set in America.

How's that for an idea?

Moore and Morrison really do seem to have similar interests. Must contribute to all that antipathy.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
14:54 / 26.07.02
Justice League of Extraordinary Gentlemen!
 
 
The Natural Way
16:55 / 26.07.02
But who, from modern pop fiction, would comprise yr NOW league? Eh?

No....far better would be a future league comprised of sci-fi heroes 'n' heroines. Sources for characters? Film and TV become fair game from the 60's onwards, I reckon.....
 
 
invisible_al
16:57 / 26.07.02
First reactions Oooooh Shiney! Get a load of that gorgeous art. The first few pages of just the carpet flying through Martian valleys, in my head all you hear is the winds. But there may be room for some good music, any suggestions?
And I'm with you there Chuckling Duck, my first thought was that its arabic script but I've only read though it once. Damm must get the first TP as well now.
 
 
Mr Tricks
17:34 / 26.07.02
And what backstory do you mean? There's a few. But, undoubtedly, yes.

I was refering to the Alan Quartman story that ran as a backup to the comic story in the original series... I seem to recall some lovecraftian beasties being confronted in his future, After He and Minna hook-up.

Reread it last night & had Pink Floyd's One of these days... playing dirrung the opening sequence. Had the erie winds & the dramatic buildup in perfect sync with the Battle!!!

a future LOEG could be RAD!!! would the term "gentlemen" be altered by then? League of Extraordernary Adventurers?
 
 
ThomasMunkholt
19:29 / 26.07.02
gentleXmen ... I'd buy that.
 
  

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