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All-New Biblioteca Barbelith: BOOK PERSONALS

 
  

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Kit-Cat Club
12:05 / 16.04.02
Following much discussion about how to make this forum more exciting and relevant, we are proud to introduce Barbelith Book Personals - it's the Book Club of the future, you know... for more info see 'Ways to talk about what you read' and 'Biblioteca Barbelith'. But to recap:

Basically what we are going to do is have a thread called 'Book Personals' (that's this one, kittlings), where people who want to read a book in collaboration with others can advertise for reading partners. Once two or more people have agreed to read a book together, they can set a time and start a thread on it (and where there's a lot of surrounding material, as with Ulysses, a Notes and Queries thread could be started to cope with that sort of info.

This should make it much easier for us to read together - for starters we won't have to fix on 'the book with the most votes' as the only option, and people can pick and choose what they want to read and when.

To see this in action, check the 'Book Personals: Ulysses' thread. Also, Barry Auckland and I were thinking of having a bash at Foucault's Pendulum some time soon. The beauty of picking what you want to read collaboratively and when you want to do it, is that you and your reading partner/s can choose your own schedule for the textbang - it's really flexible.

I hope everyone finds this useful - it has the potential to be really interesting as well as a lot of fun. Good hunting!
 
 
grant
15:00 / 16.04.02
Le Morte D'Arthur
(either the Grail Quest or Tristan & Isoude)
and
one of the books of the Apocrypha
have been mentioned.

I think I'd prefer doing this after Ulysses is over.

Either of those.

Any takers?
 
 
Trijhaos
19:06 / 16.04.02
I'm willing to give Le'Morte D'Arthur a try. I believe I have a copy of it floating around here somewhere.

I'm willing to give the Apocrypha a try too.
 
 
Tezcatlipoca
20:56 / 16.04.02
Barry Auckland and I were thinking of having a bash at Foucault's Pendulum some time soon

A superb book, although I honestly preferred The Name of the Rose. Unless you want to confine this purely to fiction, has anyone considered 'A Child called It' by David Pelzer? Thin and simple it may be, but easily one of the most thought provoking books I've read in....erm...well, a month or so actually.

If you'd rather stay with fiction, how about Dostoyevsky's 'The Possessed' or Pincher Martin by William Golding?
 
 
rizla mission
22:19 / 16.04.02
I'm ready to join in any reading of the Apocrypha (or parts thereof).

And my own 'personal':

Hey kids! Anyone thinking of reading any of the following:

J.G. Ballard - The Atrocity Exhibition
G.K. Chesterton - The Napoleon of Notting Hill
Kurt Vonnegut - Bagombo Snuffbox
Mary Doria Russell - The Sparrow
Tom Wolfe - The Pump House Gang
Philip K Dick - Martian Time Slip
Raymond Chandler - The Big Sleep

cos if so, I can join in.
 
 
grant
14:50 / 17.04.02
I tried at the Ballard once, and now no longer know where my copy went to. It didn't hold me.

Haven't read that Vonnegut yet and feel I need to.
And Chandler - that'd be fun.
 
 
Not Here Still
17:10 / 17.04.02
Bloody hell; there's two books in here already which I bought and then went into my pile of 'must-read but haven't yet, oh bugger it I'll read this nice easy crime novel insteads.'

So I'm up for both Foucault's Pendulum and Martian Time Slip, whichever one gets started first I'll go for.

On an even heavier note - I bought the Koran last December and I haven't started that yet. Anyone fancy having a pop at that as well?

Basically, what I'm saying is I'll read any of the above. Plus about 50 other books. So who's up for what what?
 
 
grant
19:26 / 17.04.02
I'd definitely be up for the Koran, but I think I'd like to read New Testament Apocrypha first.

Also, as with Le Morte and Apocrypha, it might be a bit much to take in in its entirety. Might be worth picking a section to start with.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
12:20 / 18.04.02
Barry A. said that he'd rather read Foucault's Pendulum than Ulysses, which puts me in a bit of a quandary as I want to do them both - but given the structure of the Ulysses reading, it might be possible to do them both together.

I too would like to have a crack at some of the Apocrypha (though perhaps I should read some of the rest of the Bible beforehand) - but I would rather do that in a while, I think. However, don't let any of this stop anyone else. (Riz - I wouldn't mind having a bash through that Chesterton at some point).
 
 
Cavatina
12:44 / 18.04.02
Kit-Cat, re your comment in the old 'Biblioteca' thread -

"However, I still think there's room for major collaborative projects (such as the one we discussed for M and surrounding texts) and perhaps we need a more formal framework for those, which is where the Club as it stands migth come in handy."

- I wonder if a time will present itself for a group reading of M , at least not for several months.
 
 
Persephone
12:49 / 18.04.02
I would like very much to do M & expect that U will be winding down mid-June... may I propose that we start getting together a reading of M, say, mid-June for N&Q with a July start date for reading and discussion?
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
12:51 / 18.04.02
Yes, I know - and after I said that it would be the next one as well... bad me. Do you still want to do a collaborative reading? I'm sure we could find a time which would work (I'd suggest starting at your earliest convenience, except I have left my copy at my parents' house - bah).
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
12:52 / 18.04.02
Ah, thanks, Persephone. Hurrah for people with organisational brainpower :] Much better plan.
 
 
Cavatina
12:58 / 18.04.02
Persephone and Kit-Cat, that time-line sounds fine. I'm busy with other reading just now and will look forward to it.
 
 
Loomis
15:22 / 18.04.02
I'm v. keen on New Testament Apocrypha. Anyone got any tips on best edition, price, store?
 
 
Trijhaos
18:43 / 18.04.02
I believe there was a link posted to a site that had the Apocrypha available, in the old Biblioteca thread.
 
 
Loomis
08:07 / 19.04.02
Thanks Trijhaos. Must've walked (as it were) right past it.
 
 
Spaids
13:04 / 19.04.02
Just out of curiosity, has anyone already read the Illuminatus trilogy?
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
13:13 / 19.04.02
Yes; it was the first book we read for the Book Club. The resulting thread should still be around somewhere (it was in September, I think, so you'll need to ferret around for it).
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
13:17 / 19.04.02
Here it is.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
09:12 / 22.04.02
Barry Auckland and I are in the process of reading Foucault's Pendulum as we speak, and I will be starting a thread soon (as soon as I've checked where he's up to...)
 
 
Rage
09:36 / 22.04.02
There's gotta be another person on here that hasn't started with The Sandman yet.

Any other late bloomers wanna have a go on this?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
12:06 / 22.04.02
I'm up for Foucault's Pendulum, which I started some time ago, then put to one side and forgot about, or going through Martian Time-Slip again.

Alternatively, I've just started Jan Potocki's The Manuscript Found in Saragossa, if anyone else is interested in giving that a go.
 
 
Persephone
12:35 / 22.04.02
Ooh, that Saragossa looks good. I guess I won't have a chance to pick it up before you're long done. But it's definitely going on my Myopic list, thanks for the tip.
 
 
Cavatina
13:54 / 22.04.02
I need to re-read Bernhard Schlink's The Reader . If anyone else has read it and would like to discuss it, I'd be chuffed. The stinging attack on it as 'a potent form of Kulturpornographie ' in a recent letter to the editor of the TLS (March 22) has taken me aback somewhat and it'd be good share perspectives on this.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
14:18 / 22.04.02
Ack. The one time I find someone who's actually reading the Potocki and I'm already down to do Ulysses and Foucault's Pendulum. Ack!
 
 
Persephone
19:10 / 04.06.02
Now I lay me Ulysses down to sleep... almost, that is. Is there still interest for M? Any ideas about discussion protocol --read first then discuss, or post as you read?

E. Randy, are you completely done with that Potocki? Lord, it seems ages since I started Ulysses; I practically do feel I've been away twenty years.

Also, for non-fic, is anyone interested in a read of Malcolm Gladwell's The Tipping Point? There was a shortish discussion of this in Head Shop, but I was wondering if people would be interested in discussing the book & then maybe sending it around as a roamer?
 
 
gravitybitch
02:21 / 05.06.02
Count me in for The Tipping Point! And maybe Foucault's Pendulum(/i) - I think a friend loaned me a copy a while back and it went into the pile o' books without resurfacing.

iszabelle
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
17:01 / 05.06.02
I'm not sure that the apocrypha would be that good an idea. They're very dry, not really very heretical, and you'd need to know a lot about greek and the new testament generally to get anything out of them. Maybe the Hermetica or the Nag Hamaddi texts might be more fun?
 
 
Persephone
18:50 / 05.06.02
Yay, one for Tipping Point! I've already read it, so I am ready to discuss at any time. Though I think that this is the sort of book that is better discussed by in a group... any other takers? It's a very quick read, I'd say two weeks at the most & that's if you stop at every interval to go Ah. Which this book does make me do.

What say, we get five bites & then we start a Notes & Queries thread?
 
 
Lilith Myth
10:09 / 06.06.02
Count me in for the Tipping Point, too. Though I spent so long going "aah" that it took me a while.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
17:06 / 06.06.02
I'm up for M of The Manuscript From Saragossa. I've read M a couple of times, but the Potocki is really in need of reading. It's stared at me from my shelf for three years now.
 
 
Cavatina
02:34 / 09.06.02
As an oriental fantasy - ultimately fantastic rather than Gothic, perhaps, - I reckon that The Saragossa Manuscript is far more interesting and stylistically elegant than Beckford's Vathek, written nearly 20 years earlier, even though it no doubt loses something in translation from the French Manuscrit trouve a Saragosse (acute over the 'e' in 'trouve' and grave over the 'a' before 'Saragosse') - Potocki wrote all his works in French. It was frequently plagiarised in the early 19th century due to the dodgy activities of a certain Charles Nodier, and in 1842 there was a sensational trial in Paris, following which it was translated into (I gather not very good) Polish by Edmund Chojecki.

For its 'Chinese box' structure, it also stands alongside The Decameron as a series of stories, in 66 'nights', with recurring events and some stories being interrupted by other stories in the oriental way, all held together in a narrative frame. And as it goes on, the supernatural content gradually gives way to the erotic.

Persephone and Rothkoid, it's been several years since I looked at it and I'd be happy to reread it.
 
 
Persephone
00:42 / 10.06.02
Cav, do you still want to do M in Julyish? Et vous, Kit-Cat?
 
 
Persephone
00:58 / 10.06.02
Lilith, you've already read Tipping Point & izabelle, you have not? Perhaps we could start with us three & see if we can make this catch on... I was actually thinking that I could summarize the book as we discuss, en thread, and hopefully involve people that way too. I am just wanting this book to fall into the "right" hands, which to me means people who might change the world in other ways than selling this certain brand of soap or shoes.
 
  

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