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Identifying as non-human...

 
 
that
08:13 / 09.04.02
This is something I have been thinking about recently, but my ideas are very slippery, and confused, and I have not read enough to work them into a coherent line of reasoning/questioning, so I'll just talk weird for a bit, then go away...

Sometimes I feel that I am not quite human - it is the easiest way to describe it, though I realise it is both inadequate and and overstatement. I feel disconnected from my body, programmed into certain abilities, behaviours. The behaviours I would rather not have sometimes feel like computer viruses.

It got me thinking about whether it is possible/the ways in which it is possible to identify as a non-human. Thinking about the bloke with the leopard skin full-body tattoo, and someone who has had themselves significantly altered to look more as their tiger self. The thing about being part non-human animal has a lot of currency in fiction - in Robin Hobb's books, certain people can bond with specific animals, share their senses to a fantastic degree...perhaps even the notion of daemons in the Philip Pullman books - Grumman had 'no idea that part of himself was female, and bird-formed, and beautiful'. An SF book where children start to identify as the non-human beings ('aliens') whose planet they share. I feel like this might be quite different - feeling like a non-human animal, or an 'alien', to feeling like an android, or a computer...

We have all sorts of technological appendages - cars, mobile phones...computers. This stuff is probably touched on in Haraway, who I have not read, and others, who I have doubtless not read either.

It is an unquantifiable thing - it does not make sense, this sense of un-humanness. I dunno - I guess what I am wondering is - does anyone else ever feel non-human? And is it possible to *identify* as a non-human, or is it just a pretension, or a problem?

Hoping this makes some sense...or at least, that someone else can spin something sensible out from it.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
09:37 / 09.04.02
Haraway does indeed talk about this, or something like it - in the Cyborg manifesto she talks about dislocating consciousness from the boduily processes we normally associate with its sustenance. There's some stuff in "Cyberspace/Cyberbodies/Cyberpunk" which is also potentially of interest.

However, what you describe seems to be closer (particularly the Robin Hobb reference), to otherkinning. The Otherkin is a loose description of a number of different belief groups centred around the idea that the indivisuals invovled are either spitritually or in advanced cases physically not human.

The Otherkin are those people who believe themselves to be spiritually and/or physically other than human. While mythological species (elves, satyrs, fairies, dragons, and so on) are widely accepted as being included under the term "Otherkin", many people in the community prefer to include aliens, vampires, furries, extraterrestrial humans, and other nonhuman races. A mythological or literary equivalent is not necessary to be included under "Otherkin"; there are types of otherkin that have not shown up in known legends or fiction (star-dragons, Elenari, etc.).

Now, the main problem with the Otherkin paradigm is its lack of imagination - people always belong to the sexy races (dragons, "star-dragons", elen-frickin'-ari), and play out their dialogue with otherness in a very boring way, usually involving a name with a surprising number of vowels. The principle, however, is to apply the same sort of dysmorphic reactions that are often cited in transgender cases to the idea of humanity itself.

Possibly the most interesting Otherkin idea is genetic transpeciesism, where people believe themselves to be vampires (sensitive to light, superhumanly strong, susceptible to migraines), or angels (don't even ask), but again it is a rather *obvious* way of going about feeling dislocated from one's humanity. Especially as they then have a "seeming", where necessary, that protects them by making them...appear human. You know, like Michael Landon.

It is also worth noting that the numbers of Otherkin swelled massively when White Wolf (IIRC) released the game Changeling, which is predicated on a very similar premise.

Otherkinning may be a precise and correct way to express the fact that an individual is, in fact, an elf (you can tell the elves by the apostrophes about halfway through their names). Alternatively, it could be an inspired and totally organic development in the treatment of schizophrenia - akin to the therapeutic idea of teaching the patient to dialogue with their voices and assess rationally what advice is good or bad rather than trying to drown them out pharmaceutically.

Ganesh?
 
 
that
10:07 / 09.04.02
Fascinating...thanks Haus... will think more about this... thinking of writing about it sometime (as well as the personal thing), and just wondered if it was something established in the theory... cool.
 
 
The Planet of Sound
10:19 / 09.04.02
There's also the possibility that you could be suffering from a dysmorphic disorder, such as the one experienced by people who feel a compulsive need to amputate their own limbs. Have you read the recent articles about the 'new wave' of cosmetic surgery (eg wings on humans believed possible in the next 5 years, the cat man, the lizard man, the Jim Rose chap with the horns, etc)? Have these in any way affected your recent thinking?

The cyborg aspect you raise is certainly relevant; certainly every time someone pops a pair of contact lenses in, or sits behind the wheel of a car, or types on a keyboard, they're manifesting new limbs for themselves, from a certain point of view. But this doesn't explain identification with the cyborg 'other' over your own humanity.

Tangent: typically, identification of others as 'non-human' is symptomatic of opression (see Orwell, slavery, Hitler, Richard Littlejohn). Could there be a certain masochistic aspect in associating with the 'other'?
 
 
Dao Jones
10:24 / 09.04.02
Please forgive my rather dry response.

Thoughts -

What is 'human'?

Like the aliens in 'Star Trek', the examples given are expressions of aspects of humanity. Physically diverse, psychologically extrematised, our fictional and fantasy aliens remain comprehensibly and comprehensively human.

Something 'Alien' is, by definition 'that with which we have no point of identification'.

To identify with something like a virus, or a truly alien creature, without anthropomorphosising, may be impossible. At the very least, it would be indicative of a degree of alienation from oneself (no pun intended) which I would find deeply alarming in a friend or relative.

We pattern our aliens on interpreted aspects of ourselves and the animals around us which appeal. We push back 'human', broaden and illuminate it.

Perhaps.
 
 
that
10:42 / 09.04.02
Planet of Sound: I sort of wanted to talk about this in a more general sense, rather than get all personal... but yes, it does feel like a dysmorphia of sorts. I don't consider it a problem, was simply curious to what extent it had been covered in the theory, and to what extent others felt similarly...

Dao Jones: Yes, those were my thoughts too, re. anthropomorphizing...

hmm...
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
10:45 / 09.04.02
Planet: One could extend the idea of cyborging into the theoretical. Your car gets you places faster than you can go if you walk (unless you live in London, anyway). Your contact lenses allow you to see better than your body is able to offer. Your pacemaker gives you a chance at life your heart could not give you. Your computer allows you to process binary calculations enormously faster than the limitations of your own brain would allow....

At a given point, might it not make sense to start empathising with parts of your self-construction that enhance your function, rather than hold you back.

Dao: Absolutely. Lizard Man and Tiger Woman are, in a sense, doing what Orlan has been doing (on one level - I think her project is far more complicated) for the last decade or so - challenging our perceptions of the limitations of what we signify as human and blurring the line between "human" and "non-human" by creating things that do not appear human but cannot be categorised as a fish/lizard/aeroplane and so on, but still being recognisably "humanoid", physically and personally; whether this is reassuring or more disturbing yet is open to question. Planet, this would fit into your cosmetic wings thing, which in turn fits into the Otherkin, who have a "true-self" or "dire-self" (if you are a goth), which acts as a kind of aura and parabody - like dysmorphics, angelic Otherkin might complain that their wings are itching.

On Dao's alienation point - anyone read Lyotard's "the Inhuman" more recently than I? Could be useful...
 
 
Jackie Susann
11:26 / 09.04.02
I am pretty sure The Inhuman would be more or less entirely unhelpful, actually. His Libidinal Economy seems more to the point, to me. If I am reeling off the theory bitch big hitters, some good and/or obvious ones are Foucault's discussion of 'the end of man' at the end of The Order of Things, anything by Nick Land (esp. his book Thirst for Annihilation and his essay, with Sadie Plant, Cyberpositive), lots of Deleuze and Guattari - the discussion of 'nonhuman sex' in Anti-Oedipus or the BwO chapter in A Thousand Plateaus, for example, Kodwo Eshun's More Brilliant Than The Sun, the chapter on 'the decline of the nation-state and the end of the rights of man' in Hannah Arendt's 'Origins of Totalitarianism', anything by Kathy Acker.

Surely part of the point is that the term 'human' doesn't just describe a species, but a cultural ideal (as in, for example, 'human rights'). This ideal is associated with particular historical circumstances - the notion of human rights, for example, dates from the French revolution, which in many ways introduced a new conception of the human (as citizen) tied to its model of the nation-state - and political positions. To break with these is, in a strong sense, to cease to be human.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:43 / 09.04.02
I want to marry Crunchy sometimes. But, IIRC, wasn't there a conversation between "He" and "She" about the end of humanity in The Inhuman that deals with the removal of traits we would identify as "human" from humanity.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
13:01 / 09.04.02
I don't have much to add, but thought that the work of STELARC might be of interest. His maxim is that the body is obsolete - and he examines this by connecting himself up to machinery that will move his body in accordance with requests from people logged on through the internet. An article on the Cyberhuman
is here.

Previously, he's explored this through performance art - notably with suspensions. Some pics are here, a work list here, a bio with links is here and an interview here.

As I say - not really much to add, but I thought that this guy's examination of the body's limits/posthuman behaviour might be of interest.
 
 
The Planet of Sound
14:07 / 09.04.02
Haus, absolutely, celebration of the defeat of 'nature, red in tooth and claw' is entirely understandable. But to identify with these means over your own humanity? To prefer contact lenses to fingers, for example, or cars to legs? It seems to be veering slightly towards the pathologically unwell.

Cholister; if you acknowledge that you're feeling dysmorphic feelings, it really might be best to see a specialist. I'm honestly not trying to be rude, confrontational etc etc; it's just that these are pretty profound (and potentially dangerous) psychological symptoms.
 
 
Ganesh
17:09 / 09.04.02
I suspect the analogy with schizophrenia, however tentative, is something of a red herring - and unless the belief arose suddenly, acutely, was perceived as ego-dystonic (unduly distressing) and/or caused Cholister to act in a very harmful way (drilling holes in her skull, say, to let her humanity out) I wouldn't consider it psychologically 'dangerous'. She may, however, be utilising her self-perception of 'non-humanity' as an unconscious metaphor for other unhappinesses, though, and I guess that might be an indication to pursue psychotherapy, say, or counselling.

While I'd acknowledge that the term 'schizophrenia' is used in a variety of ways to describe a variety of phenomena, what Cholister's describing (as well as the Otherkin/vampire/faerie/changeling/'I'm a tiger' stuff in general) sounds like a variant on the theme of feeling Other, of sensing oneself somehow disconnected or out of step with humanity. Paradoxically, this seems to be a mind-state that's both widespread and intensely 'human'...
 
 
The Monkey
02:45 / 10.04.02
[Dear God, how embarassed am I to have worked for White Wolf?]

I'd go along with Ganesh in saying that this self-perception and/or active pursuit of non-humanness is terribly human. We think in similes and metaphors; some people simply carry the levels of identification farther than others. But it would seem to me that there a very stong social element to all of this - in terms of social consumption, the non-human is presenting to an audience an archetype that assembles a group of traits that the individual wishes to represent as "himself"...at its base is the foreknowledge of the desired social effect of such "otherness" and the particular qualities being projected outwards.
Conversely many people feeling down, sad, or otherwise negative can experience this sense of othering while identifying it as a deficiency - a la Ozamu Dazai.
 
 
that
08:00 / 10.04.02
Oh dear... This being in the Head Shop an' all, I really did want it to be a kind of general discussion, more so than it has become (though the thread is extremely interesting, nonetheless, huh?). My own case was merely an example, an illustration...guess I thought it would be a lot more common. It is just a vague feeling, not something that controls me (but if it makes y'all feel better, I am on waiting lists etc. to see a psychiatrist and a psychologist, for various fuck-ups that are a *lot* more damaging...) - I was just curious, is all.

Cool thread, fascinating, lots to think about (my brain at the moment tends to start to structure things as essay plans) - but I have to piss off and write a real essay, so apologies for not taking more responsibility for this thread...
 
  
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