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Torture Garden/London - Friday 29th March

 
  

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Ganesh
12:04 / 27.03.02
Sorted for this Friday... but keen to arrange time and place to meet (if we're not just meeting at TG). I'd suggest gathering at my (new) place but I'm up in Willesden Green, which is probably about as far away from Brixton as it's possible to get.

Oh yeah, and can anyone tell me if there's a cloakroom?
 
 
No star here laces
13:03 / 27.03.02
I don't know brixton particularly well, plus I'm sure it'll be heaving at that time on a friday night. However I do have some friends who live near there who might let us congregate at their flat. What time do we all want to meet? Let me know and I'll start making phone calls.

I may also have to welsh out on this due to impending dental surgery, but hopefully not. Maybe a swollen face will look kinda fetish anyhow...
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
13:59 / 27.03.02
And guess what... I'm not coming. Lots of reasons, I'm afraid, which can be briefly summed up by the following Stuff Wot 'As 'Appened Recent-like:

* I'm homeless

* I'm monitoring a very ill spooky-darling, who currently suffers from a cyst under her right eye, the flu, and bronchitis

* I may owe in the region of £3700 to my now ex-landlord, none of which is actually my moral responsibility (I paid my damn rent), but which, due to the recalcitrance of my ex-flatmate, and the joys of a joint contract, may now be legally responsible for

* There is a concern that my ex-landlord (who has my forwarding address) may decide to take something out on me or from my possessions. He's already threatened me and my father when we were moving the last of my stuff out

* The above has me very stressed. Work isn't helping... it's a complete bastard right now, and I am NOT IN A PARTY MOOD.

* Plus, having no home, and sleeping at spooky's as I am, I have limited net access. So I won't even know where you're going to be if I decide to come. And... fuck it, I'm going to stop it there. That should be sufficient.

Have a good time, y'all. Flame, sorry I won't be able to lend you troos after all...
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
20:41 / 27.03.02
Aww, Jack! I'm sorry to hear all that. Vibes your way soonest.

'Nesh: Yeah, they've got a cloaky.

Everyone else: Where we meeting, then?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
00:44 / 28.03.02
As a back-up to Lyra Lovelace's suggestion: Chez Carnival is near Finsbury Park, dead handy for the Victoria Line and hence, eventually, Brixton. So if people want to congregate back at mine and Lurid's for the dressing-up sesh, that's do-able too.
 
 
Ganesh
05:34 / 28.03.02
Lyra and Jack not coming? D'oh! Can I just check that it is Friday - because I'm pretty sure this week's 'Time Out' has it down for the Saturday...

Chez CarnivArchive is sounding pretty good. Will likely PM you with my mobile number, Mord@nt.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
10:54 / 28.03.02
It's definately Friday the 29th of March- I've just re-checked the website.
 
 
No star here laces
13:13 / 28.03.02
Ah-ah-ah-ahhh, don't write me off so quickly, peeps.

The dentist has informed me that due to a change in dental philosophy it is no longer necessary to yank out my wisdom teeth with a big pair of pliers, so I should be there, assuming I've kicked this fucking flu bug by then. (if not, I will have to figure out how to construct a warm and toasty fetish outfit, which I suspect is not possible...)

Big wrist-slappy action for Jack though - next time he comes to london he should be ritualistically beaten. There is no excuse for missing out on pervery, no matter how serious it may sound. However I may be bringing some other lovely people to keep the numbers up now.

MC - I'm going to PM you my moby number too. Speak soon...
 
 
captain piss
13:24 / 28.03.02
Fairly up for pervery action too- maybe screamin pacha is comin as well. Our efforts hinge on whether or not we can throw together the requisite amounts of pvc and whatever else to cover our shining forms. This will probably require popping into a shop or 2 in Camden between now and then -s'lookin tight.

Positive energy cominatcha from North London, master Bodiless- hope all get's sorted out soon
 
 
Ganesh
17:00 / 28.03.02
Incidentally, I can recommend Hamleys' third floor ('Dressing Up') for a competitively-priced set of devil-horns and/or angel wings...
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
20:46 / 28.03.02
So, is there any chance of some pics of our assembeled FetishLithers?


Kevin,
wishing he was in London
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
20:50 / 28.03.02
So, what time do people want to meet up?
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
10:04 / 29.03.02
Lyra - sorry, Oh favourite lady of the dancefloor... but there's simply no way I could swing it right now even if I was in the mood. Which I'm not.

However, am well up for 'swinging it' at a future date and time.
 
 
Naked Flame
10:31 / 29.03.02
I am also wimping out, alas... things have been too hectic/skintified for me to get myself organised and in costume. I'll be thinking of you all havin fun while I also have fun elsewhere, but more cheaply. I'll make it as kinky as I can in your honour, though... have more fun than could possibly be legal!
 
 
Ganesh
11:33 / 29.03.02
Mord@ant: well, ZoCher's due to arrive around four, we'll need to get home and changed into our collective fabulousness, then... what? Eight, nine, ten pm? When's a reasonable time to arrive at TG? If we're heading over to Finsbury Park first (and that's sounding like the best option at the mo), when should we aim to appear? Shall we bring champagne and duct tape?

Will call you later...
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:05 / 29.03.02
I'm thinking... convene at 9, 9:30? Thoughts, anyone?
 
 
captain piss
15:11 / 29.03.02
Pacha and me are PVC'd up and ready for it - certainly keener on the idea of toddling across London with a crowd, so would be up for a pre-night gathering chez Carnival if it's happening- I'll PM me mobile number to you MC.
 
 
grant
12:45 / 01.04.02
Well?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:24 / 01.04.02
Well what?
 
 
pacha perplexa
16:31 / 01.04.02
Red PVC's everything.
 
 
Lurid Archive
01:14 / 02.04.02
Pain, suffering, torment.....a good time was had by all.
 
 
Ganesh
14:05 / 02.04.02
Shame it made me blind after a few hours, though...
 
 
angel
14:41 / 02.04.02
Details please people!

Seriously, if it's not too confrontational or uncomfortable for those of you who went along, it would be really interesting for those of us who were otherwise engaged to get your personal reflections on your experiences.

Did you like it, hate it, liked bits but not other bits, was it too namby pamby, too silly, too straight, fabulous, perfect, exciting ... you get the gist.

Maybe this belongs in the conversation, but if we start it here, we can move it along later!
 
 
captain piss
16:10 / 02.04.02
Errrm- I’ll have a go at recollections from the night, if you like- it all seems strange and dreamlike now, though < screen wavers in Rentaghost style flashback >. Got there about 12.30, I think, with the rest of the posse splendidly decked out.
Self-consciousness vanishes when I see that virtually everyone is wearing next to nothing or far stranger things than me. People of all ages, lots of indeterminate gender, many gorgeous, men & women in g-strings, people in military uniforms, blokes in pvc nurse uniforms etc. It's mainly white people but there's a few black.
Walked around for about an hour –pulse racing and eyes popping out my head. A campy, kitschy floor with people dancing to stuff like Shirley Bassey - bump into Bazzer Auckland, looking like he's auditioning to be young version of the Mr Barlow character from Salem’s Lot, with his top hat. Me finding it difficult to talk without jabbering senselessly (what’s new).
A more heavy-techno thumping floor, a dungeon downstairs – people being whipped, tied up, people in cages, or openly shagging – an initial ‘fookin ell, what’s this all about?’ response from me - Barb posse stands having a chat and looking around the place.
Me and Pacha pogo-ing on the techno floor and bumping into people around us for ages, me walking around, sneaking down to dungeon every once in a while to sneak a peak at strange goings-on (musing on whether or not to join in some of the ‘action’- didn’t have the guts).
Deciding to leave at one point – interestingly still feeling quite up for things despite lack of booze or drugs. Not so sure it was less extreme than I expected but I did start to get a bit blasé about naked bodies and people getting tortured and stuff after a few hours – heheh. There’s moments where it’s just like another club night and I ended up wanting to dance or have a wee conversation and a spliff somewhere quiet.
 
 
pacha perplexa
20:13 / 02.04.02
Angel, what can I say? It was one of the most weird and amazing places I've been to.

Before entering the place I felt like a slut because of the size of that tight pvc dress, invading every curve in me (there's something cybersexy about a second sintetic skin sticking to the body. I think everyone should try it) - but when we got to the line, the guy in front of us was wearing g-strings, and that was all. He was far from alone, as I'd soon find out.

When I began to get used to the torsos, butts and breasts, things at the dungeon started to turn hot, and delightfully painful. One of the most impressive things (for me, at least) was this long haired guy with a beautiful, angelic face, being whiped on his back and buttocks until blood came out. Appart from the innitial shock, I was surprised to find myself whishing to confort him from his suffering, kissing him, caressing his hair, at the same time I felt the urge to be the torturer.

Pretty crazy, eh?

Another thing where the masks. Like this guy with a black leather suffocating one being fondled (I dunno if it's the appropriate word) by a blonde angel stared fixedly in my eyes when I walked past next to him. The fact that he didn't have a clear expression (because of the mask covering everything but the eyes), no features that I could define, was both scary (I felt shrivels) and appealing.

Ah, well. Like Buggerer, I didn't have the guts. Too much internal contradictions for a first time.

BTW, Torture Garden will commemorate its birthday by the end of April, in Brixton Academy. But it's kind of expensive, so I don't know.
 
 
angel
06:27 / 03.04.02
Thanks guys, interesting stuff.

Interesting, Educational and Arousing ... what more could you ask for in a night out!
 
 
Ganesh
08:29 / 03.04.02
Various pontificatory thoughts on The Difference Between Gay And Straight Fetish Clubs (if Torture Garden can be called 'straight') but I'm sort of saving my energy for a big Headshoppy post...
 
 
Ariadne
09:05 / 03.04.02
Reading these, I'm swithering between "God, I wish I'd been there" and "Thank fuck I stayed away."
It sounds very scary. But then I'm a big coward.
 
 
No star here laces
14:34 / 03.04.02
My apologies for a) not coming and b)not telling anyone....

In my defense I was very ill and had got stoned so I'd feel better about being ill and then forgot to call and tell peeps I was ill.

If there's another trip planned, I am most up for it.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
14:40 / 03.04.02
If you can possibly afford it (and I can't *sulks*) then I heartily reccomend the TG b'day bash. It's bound to be a hoot- they always lay on plenty of spectacle, and the punters seem to make that bit more of an effort.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
15:10 / 03.04.02
And to those who are vacillating between going and not going: Scary as it may sound, the TG prides itself on being a safe environment. That means that nobody's supposed to touch you or otherwise hassle you, on pain of a telling-off and probably a chucking-out by the staff (who are numerous and for the most part jolly freindly). Think about it; it only needs one person to freak out and go to the papers and the club is in very hot water indeed. Apart from the occasional pushy sub, I've never had any trouble there. No-one is going to drag you off the dance-floor and set about you with a feather-duster.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
18:42 / 03.04.02
Very interesting night had by me and ol' Elephant Head.

As Meme Buggerer, Pacha and Mordant have said, mucho spectacle. I think being well stoned would only enhance that, Lyra. Ganesh and I had had a bit of an adventure getting over town and held the others up, I fear, but they were the most appetising cohort when we paraded thence.

It did feel like a safe and consensual place to be. Perverts are such lovely people, I find, as long as you show some respect and aren't an eejit. I say this as a paid up perve, mind.

My abiding memories are, being a habitué of entirely gay male pervert locales, of these breast things which lurk below women's clothing being displayed in great quantity. One chap, flapping a gorgeous Marlene-like Marabou Stork feather coat on the dance floor, had a very admirable frontage which took even world-weary me by surprise. If you like that sort of thing, there was a lot of it to like. Averting my eyes from the lower portions of some female anatomies. Not since I was a student nurse......

My strongest memories are of the variety of costume (much less conformist than equivalent gay clubs): some excellent wings, lots of gorgeously ample non-body-fascist flesh on display, people on stilts, not enough rubber but lots of pvc, lots of lucky people with no sweat glands covered in makeup and clever artwork. Some voyeuristic treats.

The music began well but transformed later into ear-bleeding House, though there was always the dungeon to which to retreat. Very much a white crowd, apart from the staff. Lots of imagination and lots of flagrant exhibitionism. What more would you want? Well, intelligent and amusing projections of imagery and the Guest List pervs performing stage shows for their supper too.

We arrived with the best looking and most attractively attired posse, which helped... Meme was pure sparkle in his tight turquoise disco pants, almost Abba-esque; Pacha strikingly shiny and red in her pvc, ¡ay muchacha!; Lurid Archive and Mordant C@rnival could give tips to Andrew Eldritch on effortless Goth elegance and poise.

We were all absolutely fabulous, Darlings, and even remembered to send good karma to suffering Lyra. He'd have had queues forming, mind, if he'd turned up in real pain. A good place to encounter fellow Barbeloids for the first time. Even Mr Auckland in Dickensian undertaker mode, working the room!

& Ganesh was such a shag in demon mode with red leather and horns. I'm up for the next one.
 
 
Lurid Archive
21:59 / 03.04.02
It was a good night and a great way to meet other lithers.

We met up beforehand, which was fun. Pacha was, as she says, a bit nervous about her wonderful skin tight PVC dress. I enjoyed watching her "realise" that her outfit was totally in keeping with the TG. Meme Buggerer is a born exhibitionist. No one gets dressed in PVC trousers and fishnet top before going to the offy unless they really want to.

Ganesh and Zocher arrived later - a very sweet couple - and with a bottle of champagne. I think Ganesh out perved us all by announcing that he got his devil horns from Hamleys, ffs.

Having been to the TG a couple of times before, I was quite focused on what everyone else was interested in.

We delayed going to the dungeon floor for a while partly because it takes a bit to get going down there and partly so as to give people a chance to acclimatise. Just watching people going by is pretty interesting, all by itself.

When we did get there, I enjoyed watching pacha's "angel" - its quite something to watch people get hurt in a sexual way. I also liked watching the pro dommes (one of which I vaguely knew) performing. They put on a good show, if a little careful. Looking, with Zocher, at a succession of blokes sucking on a strap on was strangely compelling. Especially the way she was so casual about it...
All interspersed with MC discretely hurting me through the night.

To anyone who is interested, I'd say give it a try. Despite what MC says, I might be able to convince her to go next time...
 
 
Ganesh
10:01 / 04.04.02
Have a couple of Edinburgh chums coming to visit that weekend - and suspect they too might be interested (he certainly would). Would like to go if at all possible...

Any theme yet, or is it just Best Party Frock?
 
 
pacha perplexa
10:23 / 04.04.02
The dress code, according to the leaflet, is "fetish + body art + sm + drag + full fantasy dress + uniform + cyber + medical + burlesque + carnival + lounge lizard + etc -- no street clothes or regular clubwear"

@ Brixton Academy, on a saturday (more convenient), 27th of april. Tickets in advance are £30 (for non-members) and on the door £35.

More info: http://www.tg11.com/
 
  

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