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Electronics project: mind control.

  
  

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grant
11:57 / 27.03.02
Hey Mordant (or anyone else, really) - is this function generator kit as sexy as it looks?
Because it's kind of turning me on....
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
20:49 / 27.03.02
Hotcha! I wannnnt one!

Yeah, that would be a good compromise- a kit is chearper than readymade and easier than trying to get all the bits from scratch, and you've got the option of housing the finished gizmo in a Perspex box so it looks like Orac. Can't say fairer than that.
 
 
grant
11:53 / 28.03.02
I'm waiting on one last auction to come to an end - if it fizzles, I'm all over the kit.
 
 
grant
12:47 / 01.04.02
Got it!

OooOoo!
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
15:31 / 03.04.02
So, has it arrived yet? Does it work?
 
 
grant
17:55 / 03.04.02
I'm waiting, breath bated. Prolly be a couple weeks.
 
 
grant
15:58 / 17.04.02
By the way, how would an oscilloscope simulator for the PC work, exactly?
 
 
Lionheart
16:27 / 17.04.02
I don't know but, if you're gonna be in New york anytime soon, we'll hide the device in a woodenbox upon which we'll stand and preach the holy word of Monkey Moose.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
18:27 / 17.04.02
By the way, how would an oscilloscope simulator for the PC work, exactly?

Basically you takes the signals from your dewice, whatever it may be, and you feeds them into the computer. Then the 'scope software converts the signal into the cool wiggly lines we all know and love.

A scope simulator might be a bit pricey, but it's worth looking into.
 
 
grant
19:15 / 17.04.02
So is this done through the soundcard, or is there some other form of input?

By the way, I just got notice that the function generator is in the mail, and I wrote to the scientists mentioned in the Laboratory thread about the "thinking cap" to try to find out more about their methods.
 
 
grant
19:17 / 17.04.02
Ah. I see... found out on me own, I did.
 
 
grant
14:08 / 22.04.02
The function generator has arrived. It's second hand, needs a power supply and I need to figure out what plugs will carry the signal output - there's a BnC jack on the back, but I'm assuming that's for the oscilloscope.

Speaking of which: any idea how to convert the signal from that to a cable that'll go into my soundcard? I've never seen a BNC to mini-plug adapter.

The outputs appear to be for banana plugs, but that's my generic term for jacks I don't recognize. There's a screw-down plastic sleeve around the plugs, which look vaguely like a cross between RCAs and mini-phonos.
 
 
grant
14:20 / 22.04.02
Actually, the "jacks" look a lot like what this pdf catatalogue page refers to as "binding posts."

This is all a new world to me.

Are these 'binding posts' also banana jacks?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
15:17 / 22.04.02
A binding post (now there's a term to conjure with) is so called coz you can wrap a bare wire around it, in between the screw top and the base. Then you tighten the screw top which holds the wire in place and stops it wandering off to create a short-circuit somewhere that you'll only notice three hours later.
 
 
grant
13:31 / 23.04.02
OK, cool. I looked them over, that makes perfect sense - there's a little hole in the posts for the wire to go through and everything.

Now - on coil construction. What would you suggest the best material for doing that would be? Simplest would be speaker wire - it's easy to find, easy to work with, easy to attach to the binding posts. But that illustration shows something of a seriously heavier gauge.

Any thoughts?
 
 
grant
18:41 / 06.05.02
Uhh, for building the transducer coil, what kind of wire do I ask for?

The Walonick article recommends a 24" diameter hand-wound coil, consisting of 1000' of #25 magnetic wire. .

I mean, I go looking for it and this menu is the kind of thing I come up against.
"Magnetic wire" nets me a *lot* of confusion on google.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
10:49 / 08.05.02
I'm working on it. I found this really decent site about Tesla and magnetic coils and stuff awhile back, but I must've lost the bookmark in the last hard drive crash coz I can't find it now. Bugger.

Meantime, this could be fun to browse through.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
10:59 / 08.05.02
The Mad Scientist's Webring! Fuck, yeah!
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
11:58 / 08.05.02
Nah, this page (which I've already linked to) is about as good as you're going to get. However, it does give you a pretty good indication of the kind of thing you'd need.

From the photos, it looks like they've got a length of plastic tubing, like a vacuum-cleaner hose or somthing, and used it for the core. The wire looks to be ordinary copper wire; you'd want solid wire rather than multicore, I think.

As for the ring-shaped container and the iron powder, I don't know exactly where you'd come by them but they shouldn't be terribly hard to get hold of.

(Way off-topic: a Google Groups serch on ELF mind control lead me to this little gem of a page: Invisible Personnel and criminal Life Control Surveillance System. Must be seen to be belived.)
 
 
grant
15:40 / 08.05.02
I've just sent out for literature on the professional models made by Cadwell Labs, thanks to some of the links I popped up on the Lab thread.

http://www.biomag.helsinki.fi/tms/basic.html

http://www.ists.unibe.ch/

http://www.musc.edu/psychiatry/fnrd/dbscns.htm


http://www.musc.edu/psychiatry/fnrd/HTML%20Presentation%20folder/sld001.htm

(That last one is an image of one of the pros at work with rTMS.)

Solid copper wire. Right.
 
 
grant
15:44 / 08.05.02
I'm going to have to build a plasma saber next.

Man, MC, you rock.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:21 / 08.06.02
How is this coming along, grant? Have you sussed out the coil yet (or were you too busy getting hitched? )
 
 
grant
17:30 / 08.06.02
Yes, I've been experiencing mind control of the organic variety. Couldn't be happier.

The coil will come along shortly, I hope.
 
 
Thjatsi
06:01 / 14.06.02
This is the most entertaining thread I've ever encountered on here, or anywhere else.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
15:05 / 14.06.02
Certainly a cool proj., tho as I said at the beginning I'm very dubious as to whether it'll work or not.

However, I did find out this thing about if you feed a soundwave of, say, 20Hz into one ear and a soundwave 3Hz higher into the other ear, strange and wondrous things happen to the brain (it's the 3Hz differential that does it, not thefrequencies themselves). So if the electromagnetic waves don't cut it the gizmo could be adapted for that instead.
 
 
grant
16:02 / 14.06.02
Tell me more about this. This would be really easy to do with the computer – I could capture audio signal from the generator onto the computer, loop it, then transmit on one side with the computer, while the generator transmits the signal on the other side directly.

What kind of effects are we talking about here?

And where does one acquire iron filings? This coil is looking to be a hassle.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
16:06 / 14.06.02
Well, according to one of the lecturers at my uni, the 3Hz thing creates an altered state of conciousness something like a trance. I don't have any more info than that at the mo.
 
 
paw
20:35 / 16.08.02
bump ba bump

just finished reading R.A Wilson's 'Quantum Psychology' and one of the exercises is to acquire a brain machine and run it at the 4 hertz for 30 minutes. He states that he wants groups to conduct 'classic ESP and PK experiments in the class' after such brain machine use so i assume this hertz configuration stimulates ESP and PK centres of the brain. did anything working hardware come about because of this thread? the above would be a very interesting experiment to perform.
 
 
paw
20:37 / 16.08.02
yeah and he said to report any interesting results to him. A perfect excuse to introduce mister wilson to the wonders of wee barbelith.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
07:41 / 17.08.02
Tell him we still need a kilo of iron filings.
 
 
grant
17:19 / 19.08.02
I expect to get back to this machine in a couple months at the latest. As it is, the function generator is sitting on my studio shelf, taunting me, taunting me.
 
  

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