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grant
11:33 / 15.03.02
While looking over the Dick Sutphen essay linked to in Lionheart's mind control thread, I came across this passage:

quote:Extra-low Frequency Vibrations (ELFs)

Now, let's carry this awareness a little farther.

There are also inaudible ELFs (extra-low frequency waves). These are electromagnetic in nature. One of the primary uses of ELFs is to communicate with our submarines. Dr. Andrija Puharich, a highly respected researcher, in an attempt to warn U.S. officials about Russian use of ELFs, set up an experiment. Volunteers were wired so their brain waves could be measured on an EEG. They were sealed in a metal room that could not be penetrated by a normal signal.

Puharich then beamed ELF waves at the volunteers. ELFs go right through the earth and, of course, right through metal walls. Those inside couldn't know if the signal was or was not being sent. And Puharich watched the reactions on the technical equipment: 30 percent of those inside the room were taken over by the ELF signal in six to ten seconds.

When I say "taken over," I mean that their
behavior followed the changes anticipated at very precise frequencies. Waves below 6 cycles per second caused the subjects to become very emotionally upset, and even disrupted bodily functions. At 8.2 cycles, they felt very high...an elevated feeling, as though they had been in masterful meditation, learned over a period of years. Eleven to 11.3 cycles induced waves of depressed agitation leading to riotous behavior.


I would really like to know how to build an ELF generator. Something with a timer, preferably, for self-experimentation.

Anyone (mordantcarnival) got any ideas on how to do this?
 
 
Trijhaos
11:45 / 15.03.02
Here's a thread from sci.physics.electromag

ELF Generator and Coil Design

Don't know if its what you're looking for though.

Sorry I can't get the url link thing to work right, I've tried 4 or 5 times.
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
14:11 / 17.03.02
I can't get it to work either. Sorry.
 
 
Trijhaos
17:54 / 17.03.02
Hmmm...is the url too long? Well, just copy and paste into the address bar.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
23:27 / 17.03.02
To be honest, this isn't really my field. What I have read so far makes me think it's largely bollocks, but then I'm a tool of our Lizard Masters and you will all bow down before the Nephilim, puny manbeef.

Here's some links that might help you tho'.

NB: Everyone, these are mostly conspiracy sites. Please engage critical faculties before veiwing. Thank you.

"INVISIBLE BULLETS"

Electronic Mind Control- now in DIY kit form!

The system of fluoridation and mind control endangers your health and your freedom

quote:For only $500.00 USD we will send you the total plans along with the US addresses and tel. no.'s where to buy the parts in the USA to construct your own Electronic Mind Control or Brainwashing Unit. Itemized plans and everything you need for the total construction of your own unit. Total cost is only in the hundred's of dollars and not thousand's of dollars. The CIA and Military as well as the enemy has spent $billions to construct the very same electronic tools to control you.
 
 
grant
13:56 / 18.03.02
But what kind of machinery (in a very basic sense) would one need to generate these fields?

This is linked to in that stubborn page up there:

Fig. 4. Using a low-power COSMOS RAM and a 9-volt battery permits saving programs in memory.

It's followed by programming instructions for various frequency ranges and waveforms.
But looking closer at this, it seems to be instructions from the 1970s for building your own microcomputer (called an "elf"), not an ELF generator.

I *think*.

>>>>>>>>>>>

However, the quirky page (does this work?)
contains this definition:

quote:>>Null Void writes:
>>I am trying to understand the workings of ELF wave technology.
>>Does anyone know where I can acquire any free plans or
>>schematics for a fairly simple ELF wave generator?


Just tie an high power audio amplifier (driven by an oscillator) to a
VERY long wire strung as high as possible above the ground. If you get
lazy, run the wire in a loop, maybe a fraction of a mile or so in
diameter, and you can generate all the ELF waves you want. Tie the loop
to the input of an audio amp as if it were a magnetic stylus pickup, and
listen to "whistlers" emitted from distant lighting bolts. Impress your
friends. But not when a thunderstorm is nearby.

ELF waves are radio waves generally less than about 50 kHz in frequency
(about 6 km wavelength). The lowest frequency waves I know of that are
used for communication (CW), are about 7,000 Hz (wavelength=43km) to
15,000 Hz (wavelength=20km). Ancient TRF and regenerative radio
receivers were used to pick up and read CW transmissions.


So, is this guy describing an ELF receiver? What kind of equipment would one need to do this (in simple words)?

Or is this the kind of thing where I really do have to send $500 into the anti-fluoridator defenders of telepathic freedom?

[ 18-03-2002: Message edited by: grant ]
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
16:18 / 18.03.02
Hmmm. First off, scratch building one from the design shown. The CDP1822 is as obsolete as it gets- check the date on the schematic! It's nearly as old as me. Oh, and to be on the safe side I looked for the chip on Farnell, Maplin, and Radio Shack- nada. You might as well stroll down to Halford's and ask for an inner-tube for your penny farthing.

However, this is irrelevant (ish), because we can deduce from the bloody awful documentation that this is a square-wave generator. (And a bastard complicated one at that- if I gave a shit and could spare the brainpower, I could come up with a design that did what that did with half the componants and no sodding machine code.)

I just don't see for the life of me how this could work. I know that low frequency sound waves can have a distinctly uncomfortable effect on human physiology, but still I don't understand how generating a square-wave pulse can either a) require "$billions in research!" or b) fuck with your head.

The more I read, the stronger the whiff of snake-oil becomes.
 
 
grant
18:54 / 18.03.02
I'm really curious, though - it seems like the 1976 article is about a homemade computer for making soundwaves (the "elf"), but the rest refer to electromagnetic waves... is that right?
Or is it all just long sound waves?
Sound waves I can see affecting mood and whatnot much easier, but I've also read some legit stuff on magnetic fields affecting mood and whatnot. So EM waves doing something like this (altering mood) wouldn't surprise me.

[ 18-03-2002: Message edited by: grant ]
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
08:40 / 19.03.02
From here:

quote:Andrija. Puharich: An incredible but absolutely true scene took place when Uri Geller was working on one floor at Stanford Research Institute (SRI). They had Geller bending metal, teleporting things, demonstrating incidents of telepathy and clairvoyance - these things were happening all of the time.

Wow! Did you see that? The needle on my bullshitometer just spontaneously flew off and buried itself in the far wall!
 
 
tom-karika nukes it from orbit
08:55 / 19.03.02
Should this be possible with a simple 555 timer chip, set right down low maybe a variable capacitor/resistor, connected to a F.E.T driving a speaker?

What sort of frequencies are you looking for?

could they be generated with a simple PC audio editor?

but the 'thing' above would toast any modern chip in seconds. (found from experimentation with some redundant 32 mb lumps i couldn't use). The logic scheme following it seems to be a bad idea to me, I can't see it doing anything other than generating extremely low modulating frequencies which go perpetually down...

I may be over simplifying this severely, but a constant low frequency square wave isn't that hard to make, given a lump of PCB, a cheap chip and a soldering iron.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
10:05 / 19.03.02
Okay, here's an article written by somenoe who was at least on a nodding aquaintance with reality:

Effects of 6-10 Hz ELF on Brain Waves

As to actually constructing the gizmo:

A circuit to produce a square-wave is a peice of cake to build (I'll see if I can scare up some diagrams), and you'd have no problem rigging up a makeshift timer from an alarm clock or somesuch. You'll probably want to put your hand on a cheap scilloscope (You can get hold of a little one for about £150), or an oscilloscope simulator package for your PC. In theory it's possible to obtain a desired frequency by selecting your componant values according to certain mathematical formula, but in real life you have to include a 10K pot in your circuit and spend ages futzing around to get your desired waveform. (And then your scope goes on the blink.)

The tricky bit comes when you use the square wave to produce the electromagnetic pulse- you'd need a wire coil, obviously, but I've only the sketchiest idea of how big it should be or how many turns it should have.

(I'm still not sure this would do anything terribly useful if you did build it, but hey- it's your theta-waves.)

Edited to include
this link. It shows a coil similar to the kind of thing I mean.

[ 19-03-2002: Message edited by: Mordant C@rnival ]
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:13 / 19.03.02
Here's a page with some useful info, including how to build a timer circuit using a 555 IC.
 
 
grant
13:55 / 19.03.02
Oooooo!

You *deliver*!

This is freaky:
quote:Subjects verbatim reports were quite revealing. (Keep in mind that none of the subjects actually said they felt the ELFs.) The most common verbatim reports occurred between 8.6 and 9.6 Hertz. Common statements were subtle "tingling" sensations in the fingers, arms, legs, teeth, and roof of the mouth. Two subjects reported a "metallic" feeling in their mouth. One subject reported a "tightness" in the chest and another subject reported a "tightness" in the stomach. Several subjects also reported sensations when the ELF frequency was between 6 and 7 Hertz. The verbatim responses in this range were "ringing" in the ears, "flushed" face, "fatigued", "tightening" in the chest and "increasing" pulse.


So is this:
quote:7) I have found three definite beneficial uses for the ELF generator: a) for relaxation, b) to eliminate jet lag, and c) the elimination of seizures in a dog.


And as to this:
quote:1. A sine wave produces lock-on more readily than a square wave or a triangle wave. A sine wave output produces a rotating magnetic field where there is a gradual build up, collapse and reversal of the field intensity. A square wave output produces a pulsed alternating magnetic field where the build-up, collapse and reversal of the magnetic field is more abrupt.


Seems reasonable, but more difficult to produce. Is that true?

and this (the unit he used for the dog) is *exactly* the kind of stuff I was thinking about:
quote:I constructed a portable ELF generator about the size of a pack of cigarettes. The ELF generator was powered by a nine volt battery and had two frequencies, selectable by a toggle switch (10.0 Hz and 7.83 Hz). The 10 Hz frequency was chosen because previous experiments had shown that lock-on was more likely to occur at higher frequencies (i.e., closer to the prominent frequency of the brain). The 7.83 Hz frequency was chosen because it is the resonant frequency of the Earth and naturally occurring low intensity magnetic radiation can be detected at this frequency (Schumann, 1952).

I'm afraid the timer circuit page is a little over my head; my electronics experience consists of using a few audiovisual gizmos (an oscilliscope used for monitoring video signals, wiring microphones and repairing amplifiers) and building a theremin from a kit. Never taken a class or even read a basic text, aside from scanning a couple manuals really quickly on the Radio Shack shelves.
Then again, I don't mind doing something like just flipping a switch and watching the clock, or setting a timer to let me know to turn the thing off. Or even set up something mechanical (like a water clock or a candle).

And, from what this guy says here:
quote:The schematic for the portable ELF generator is illustrated. It is a twin-T oscillator followed by a high power 386 amplifier. The twin-T was chosen because of its high stability and low distortion sign wave. Construction is straight forward and the placement of parts is not critical. All parts are readily available. The two 10K frequency adjustment pots should be 10-20 turn trim pots to allow precise frequency adjustment. The 10K output level adjustment pot should be set so that the output feeding the coil is less that 100 milliwatts to comply with FCC regulations (I set Maynooth's to 10 milliwatts). The coil itself is not critical and can be wound on any iron core. Use only an alkaline or nickel-cadmium battery.
... it seems like it might be simple to follow an assembly list and build one with a little bit of time & effort. I just need to know what to put together.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
18:51 / 19.03.02
quote:Originally posted by grant:
Seems reasonable, but more difficult to produce. Is that true?


What, a sine wave? No, a sine wave is just as easy to produce as a square wave. It's all in the math.

Oh, and if you pop into a Maplin or Radio Shack or whatever, you'll usually find a bloke called Keith or Gavin working there who knows everything, but everything, about electronics, and will be only to glad to help you out.

Edited yet again to add this link: electronics-tutorials.com has a searchable database of articles and tons of useful info, including recommended reading.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
19:34 / 19.03.02
Alternatively, if you really feel that building a circuit to produce the required waveforms is beyond you (and trust me, it isn't) you could always buy a signal generator.

These beasties usually offer a range of frequencies (between 1 hz and 1Mhz being fairly standard), variable amplitude, and most allow you to select a sine, square or triangle waveform as desired.

Radio Shack do a good basic model for $200. I've seen them cheaper, and if you get hold of the trade mags you could probably pick up a second-hand model for much less. However, as I said, a signal generator circuit isn't that hard to build.
 
 
grant
12:59 / 20.03.02
Dear Mordant,

you are cool.

Love, grant.


PS. - If I build or buy a signal generator, the only thing I need to do next is build a coil to run the signal through, correct? Because that looks like fun....

I'd be more than a little hesitant to ask all this of Kevin/Gavin until I sounded at least a little knowledgable because, well, imagine somebody who knows nothing about electronics asking for instructions to build a brain-altering machine from a guy who spends most of his day selling cell phones to high schoolers and VCRs to senior citizens. I'd be just another loon taking up his time.

PPS. - I found this selection of devices on eBay.
What're these things used for usually - calibrating monitor equipment?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:19 / 20.03.02
quote:Originally posted by grant:
What're these things used for usually - calibrating monitor equipment?


That and testing circuits. I use them a lot in lab.

You really should think aboutsnapping this upif you can. It's exactly the kind of signal generator I had in mind, and it's an incredible bargain at ten bucks. Then you'd just have to worry about sorting the coil out, which can't be that difficult. I'll do a little more reading and get back to you.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:29 / 20.03.02
Ebay has some cheap oscilloscopes too.

You probably do want a scope for this project, so you can adjust the frequency and amplitude of the signal. Signal generators are never spot-on, and the older ones tend to drift a little if you don't keep an eye on them.

(Just a thought: Should this thread really be in the Creation? It's got very lab-y.)
 
 
grant
13:53 / 20.03.02
(I figure we're making something here - although some of the stuff I've found on infrasounds and ELF generators is *very* labby.)

I bid on the thing (seller's in Tampa), but have yet to "reach the reserve". I may try emailing the seller just to see....

Just bid on a vintage oscilloscope, too.
Geez, this is turning into a bad habit. I hope I can figure out the right cable connections - there seems to be a standard bnc connector up front, but the jacks next to it could be anything. phono? banana plugs?

ah, well - bidding's over in an hour.
 
 
grant
15:04 / 20.03.02
Damn thing went up to $41 really quickly...
 
 
enough
18:22 / 20.03.02
Mordant, you rule.

'lither of the month award.
At this rate you may get the lifetime achievment award...
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
19:56 / 20.03.02
I have to admit, I've been enjoying this. I don't even belive in the principles behind it, but the project itself has caught my interest.

Jesus, I'm such a fucking geek.
 
 
grant
12:39 / 21.03.02
So, having been priced out of the auction in the last hour, how would I build a signal generation circuit?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
15:38 / 21.03.02
Well, I wouldn't give up on the idea of buying one. Like I say, try looking in trade and hobby mags dealing with electronics- the small ads sometimes offer good stuff.

Meanwhile I'll keep my eye out for online tutorials.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:19 / 22.03.02
This document has the basic circuit desing and equations for a Wein Bridge oscillator (page 2), but it might be a bit intimidating if you're not a electronics nerd like me. I'll keep looking, see if I can scare up something with a bit more background info. But really, it's a piece of cake.

BTW- if you're going for the whole DIY thing then you definately need an oscilloscope. Circuits never work right the first time. Plus you should get your hands on some basic kit:

(Hint: Check the Radio Shack website.)

A breadboard, aka a microdeck or u-dec. This is a small board on which to build your prototype circuit.

A soldering iron. (Get a decent one).

Leads, including a few spare scope leads and a lot of 4 millimetre jackplugs attached to wires of varying lengths. (You're best off buying a bag of 4-mil jacks and some wire and making these up yourself).

Crocodile clips (you can never have too many croc clips). Buy the sleeved kind- you'll end up with fewer shorts.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:22 / 22.03.02
Aha! Jackpot!

Electronics Circuits Reference Archive
: Audio signal (sinewave) generators
 
 
grant
13:20 / 22.03.02
Oooo!

Well, I've still got a bid in on a function generator that's missing a knob - we'll see how that goes.

At home I've got a cheapie soldering iron and some alligator clips (I guess these big lizards are more popular here than crocs).

Breadboard and leads, I'll have to get, I suppose. I'm wondering if a 4-mil lead is the same thing as an 1/8 in - aka a mini plug, the same thing as a walkman headphone plug.

I'm also guessing a "scope lead" is something to attach the circuit to an oscilliscope. Is that usually a BNC cable (looks like TV coaxial cable, only with a fitting on the end to lock it down rather than screw it on)?

I've got a multimeter (which I still don't entirely understand, but worked for the theremin kit) but no oscilloscope. I've always kind of wanted one, just cuz they look cool.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
14:02 / 22.03.02
4mm = 1/8in, near as dammit. Sorry, I'm more of a metric person.

quote:Is that usually a BNC cable (looks like TV coaxial cable, only with a fitting on the end to lock it down rather than screw it on)? That's your man, yes.

Here is a page on using an oscilloscope.


They do look a bit good, don't they?
 
 
Bear
14:11 / 22.03.02
I saw them carrying out this experiment on TV, on that sci-fi thing that used to be on the sci-fi channel (funny that) - no help to you guys but it was very interesting....
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
14:16 / 22.03.02
Whoa. Was this a play or a documentary or what?
 
 
Bear
14:53 / 22.03.02
Documentary, in some lab in America. The people they were experimenting on got very emotional or thought that there was someone in the room, actually I also saw something like that on BBC1 remember that thing about ghost and werewolfs, I'm starting to wondering if its the same thing now. But anyway they filled the room with something or other think it was the boys your talking about, said that it might explain alot of ghost stories?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
15:57 / 22.03.02
Ah, you're talking about low-frequency sound waves. Yes, they do seem to have a really unfomfortable effect on human physiology (among other things they can actually make your eyeballs vibrate in your head, hence making you see things). grant's project is going to use electromagnetic waves tho', not sound waves.
 
 
grant
13:20 / 25.03.02
Outbid again -- does this thing seem up my alley?

A "Hertz" is a cycle-per-second, right, so something that operates from 0-12 cycles-per-second is exactly what I want, correct?
I bid $15 on it, anyway.

Thanks for all the help (& incitement)....
 
 
.
14:25 / 25.03.02
OK, here's some shit i picked up about ultra-low sound (AKA infra-sound, as opposed to ultra-sound). from Amok Journal http://www.amokbooks.com/books/sensurro.html which is great book, full of reprinted scientific papers on fun stuff like trepanation, cargo cults etc. I can't remember all the stuff exactly, but i do remember one important thing...
A sound wave down in the infrasound range doesn't have any great physical/ psychological effects on its own, but it is when two or more are played together, there's something special about the harmonics... a large part of any effect is just the fact that it is VERY LOUD (ie. unpleasent air pressure changes). But aside from vibrating buildings to pieces, there weren't any more subtle mind-control effects to be had. And you needed a fucking massive speaker. Have people been confusing ELF and infrasound RE: conspiracy theories?
 
 
grant
13:20 / 26.03.02
There was some confusion about that early on, especially (apparently) since some of the circuitry that can be adapted to make ELF waves is built to make audio. It's all signals.
The stuff Mordant dug up that I quoted near the end of p1, though, makes it clear that we're talking about electromagnetism and not sound.
 
  

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