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quote:Originally posted by Lyra Lovelaces:
My problem is more that when you say 'rap group' the first assumption your average punter will make will be that it will be angry, shouty stuff.
Which to me is wrong. If you forever identify yourself as the oppressed underdog, then that's what you'll always be. I would think that black people ought to be able to offer so much more, musically, than just anger.
The above is no more or less fucked up than your original, you know. Except that maybe you could argue that "the average punter" has a better awareness and is more amenable to hip-hop, but still. I mean, shit "I would think women had more to offer..." - could you be any more condescending?
And I can't believe I'm hearing that "if you say you're oppressed, you'll always be oppressed" bullshit, and stereotyping of feminist bands as humourless and no fun, from you - wasn't it you who, just the other day, pointed out to Nick that the idea that activists want to drag everyone down to a basic common denominator was a right wing fallacy? Well, so are these. And along similar lines.
I agree with you about R&B, although it has its own problems - what I'm stunned by is that you can see where other people are being narrow-minded and making ill-informed sweeping judgments about music they're not too familiar with, yet are perfectly willing and even take pride in doing it y'self. Which doesn't really lend itself to constructive discussion...
[ 24-01-2002: Message edited by: Flyboy ] |
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