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Ronald Thomas Clontle
15:57 / 28.08.01
Today was my big record-buying day. I got the new releases from Preston School of Industry and Stereolab, I haven't spent enough time listening to either yet, not at all... I can say that the songs on the PSOI album that I immediately like the most are the ones where Spiral does his Fall impression...


I have, however, very quickly fallen in love with the Avey Tare and Panda Bearalbum (Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished) which I picked up...It's the first release, the one that pre-dates the Avey Tare/ Panda Bear/ Geologist record which I love so much. It's a lot better, it's more song-y, less Tago Mago/Ege Bamyasi Can-esque. It reminds me a bit of The Flaming Lips, really. It's a beautiful record, and I can tell I will like it more and more with time, I've got that feeling.
I highly recommend that you all look for records by these guys---they sound like two parts can, one part Flaming Lips/Mercury Rev, with a little dashes of Eno, Talking Heads, and the weirder Radiohead music...

I'm passing on picking up the new Bjork record...I was given a cdr with 9 out of the 12 songs on it a couple months ago, and I'm not that crazy about the record. "Hidden Place", "It's Not Up To You", and "Unison" are all very nice, but the rest I've heard is a little too dull and non-melodic for me--it just makes me sleepy and bored, and I'm not really looking for that right now.

I've got to pick up the new RZA record at some point soon too...maybe I can find a $5 bootleg on the street or something...

[ 28-08-2001: Message edited by: Flux = undergrad ]
 
 
Cherry Bomb
15:58 / 28.08.01
No new records as of late, but eagerly anticipating purchase of Tori's covers album..
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
16:06 / 28.08.01
You know, I like Tori, but I really didn't like her last record at all (save for "Glory of the 80s" and "Suede", which I really like a lot), so I wasn't really especially looking foward to the new covers record ---that was, until I heard her version of Neil Young's "Heart Of Gold", which blew me away. She's turned it into a relentless driving psychedelic rock blowout, the last thing I would have ever imagined. If you want to hear it, and can handle realaudio, check this out. It comes up around the 50 minute mark.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
16:09 / 28.08.01
I didn't get her last album, but the interview about her reworking the songs Tori-style pretty much sold me. She's reworking an Eminem song (can't remember the name) from the perspective of the wife that he and his daughter kill in his version. Plus she's got photos of herself "in character" for all the songs! And she's covering "I Don't Like Mondays"! I can't miss it!!

Will try and see if I can get the "Heart of Gold" version playing...
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
16:15 / 28.08.01
The Eminem song is "97 Bonnie and Clyde" from his Slim Shady LP album.

All of the songs are apparently male-written sung from either the female perspective, or about a woman. She's playing shows in character too...she's made a character for each song, and will randomly choose one to play a concert in when she goes on tour. Sounds great, arty in a really appealing way.

Don't bother getting To Venus And Back. It's mostly really weak, is full up of really shitty sounding electronic keyboards and drum machines (and I usually like that sort of thing). The live album sounds terrible too, and suffers from what I consider really poor track selection.
 
 
Not Here Still
16:25 / 28.08.01
Yeah, I have got a few new records as it happens.

I just succumbed to the hype and got the Strokes album - pretty good, in a 'Television but shorter songs' kind of way.

However, the best record I got this week was the new Mercury Rev album All Is Dream, which starts all widescreen, like a Bond theme, and gets better with every listen.

I've also just bought a classical album by Ralph Vaughan Williams, after hearing 'The Lark Ascending' on BBC Radio 4 and realising just how good it is

And finally, a great old funk record by a guy called Shuggie Otis, called Inspiration Information.

All highly recommended. God, I sound like I'm so trying to cover every base with this list. Sorry .
 
 
Not Here Still
16:31 / 28.08.01
Seeing as I linked everyone else, Ralph won't be happy unless he gets a mention too.

So he's about halfayw down here, with tons of other stuff around him.

The LArk Ascending clip is only about three of its full 15 minutes, but it will give you an idea of what it's like.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
16:41 / 28.08.01
Flux, how was the stereolab album? Am I alone in absolutely hating every stereolab album since Emperor Tomato Ketchup?

I got the PSOI single two days ago, and while I like the music, Spiral Stairs just can't sing. And he can't sing in a bad way, you know what I mean?

The other album I got was the White Stripes "De Stijl". Aside from a kick-ass design sense, Jack and Meg White write real songs. Which is something different and new. Surprisingly, I prefer the "bluesier" first album to "De Stijl", but I think that has something to do with the fact that I am learning to play guitar and it's darn fun to play that way. Haven't gotten "white Blood cells" yet, though, and I missed their free concert in NYC a few weeks ago because I was at Radiohead (which incidentally, was GREAT and I totally take back all the bad things I've thought about Kid A and Amnesiac).
<threadrot>
Seeing any CMJ shows? So far I've got tickets to Clinic/Folk Implosion (can't wait to see Clinic) at the Knitting factory and er...um..Flickerstick (I loved, loved, Bands on the Run) at Irving Plaza. </threadrot>
 
 
jUne, a sunshiny month
20:05 / 28.08.01
quote: JB again : ...And finally, a great old funk record by a guy called Shuggie Otis, called Inspiration Information.

this is a BIG thing. what this guy was doin was really too early for people or what ?!

the new Weezer is great, even if the Ocasek guy's around...
oh yeah, tons of slices of wax, from hip hop to broken beat, from whatevr to else, too.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
20:37 / 28.08.01
Hey, don't knock Ocasek. Early Cars are ace. Plus he produced Weezer's blue album, don't forget...
 
 
jUne, a sunshiny month
09:38 / 29.08.01
oups, sorry, miss Bomb.
didn't mean it, miss Bomb.

sometimes i forget that the Cars even existed !
 
 
Dee Vapr
09:39 / 29.08.01
I let the hiphop demons invade my brain.

I bought three Anticon releases this weekend, Music for the Advancement of Hip Hop, Sole's "Learning to Walk" and Buck 65's "Man Overboard". I heartily recommend all three, but the discerning listener must

buy Buck 65. buy. buy his CD. buy it.

Unfortunately I can't afford the money for the 'rev, Bjork, or Stereolab, a bit of an oversight there I think.
 
 
jUne, a sunshiny month
09:49 / 29.08.01
quote: Dee Vapr : buy Buck 65. buy. buy his CD. buy it.

yesss! B65 rules, word. just check also Deep Puddle Dynamics. the anticon is dope on this too.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
09:55 / 29.08.01
Got The Cold Vein - Cannibal Ox today. Haven't had the opportunity to listen to it properly yet, but what I've heard I've loved. This goes onto minidisk for the walk to and from work tomorrow.
 
 
Ierne
09:55 / 29.08.01
Rachid Taha.
 
 
Saint Keggers
09:55 / 29.08.01
I havent gotten a new album since christmas..but i just downloaded the lastest Tool album...bu the d/l's were screwed. Lately ive just been roaming the mp3 freeway looking for songs that call to me....
 
 
Opalfruit
09:55 / 29.08.01
Bought the Thea Gilmore e.p. As If. Quite interesting. Sounds a bit like Joni Mitchell meets Joolz. I'm quite impressed.

The Best of Genesis - All the good Peter Gabriel Genesis songs on a Double LP.

Moonshake - Eva Moon. Psychedelic funk, eco stuff. Heavy PIL influnce

Erm. That's it until Monday.... (I get paid).
 
 
Disco is My Class War
09:55 / 29.08.01
Grrl punk-rock tip: get the Moves album. It's almost better than Sleater-Kinney. In kind of the same vein, ish, but with more subtle lyrics. It fucken rocks and will be going on tapes, ya.
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
14:03 / 29.08.01
[QUOTE]Originally posted by todd:
Flux, how was the stereolab album? Am I alone in absolutely hating every stereolab album since Emperor Tomato Ketchup?

I'm glad you asked, because I was probably going to write about it anyway. Short answer: it's really fucking boring. All of the songs are on the long side, and are multi-part prog-type songs, with 'movements' and such. So some songs will have this one really cool bit, but will be mostly dull as can be. It's weird, all the songs have all these parts and passages, but they nevertheless seem to lack dynamics...it just sounds repetitive and very been-there-done-that for them. It sounds like Stereolab on autopilot. I think the big problem, as with everything since Emperor Tomato Ketchup (which is one of my favorite records, ever) is the presence of John McIntyre. It is bad enough Tortoise has been making coma-inducing records, it seems like he's bent on wrecking Stereolab too. Stereolab used to be so damn great...it's kinda sad. Every record usually has at least one or two good songs on it, so that's enough to keep me interested, but this is really pushing it. I think the only song that I really dig is "Captain Easychord", and that song loses me halfway through. I thought Cobra And Phases Groop was pretty decent, to be fair...it was maybe 8 songs too long, but half of it is pretty solid. The 'Last of the Microbe Hunters' mini-LP was just crap though...

I got the PSOI single two days ago, and while I like the music, Spiral Stairs just can't sing. And he can't sing in a bad way, you know what I mean?

yeah, Spiral isn't much of a singer, he never has been. He's got some charming moments, but sometimes his nasal flat voice can be grating. There's one part on "Encyclopedic Knowledge Of" on the LP which I just wonder why he didn't have someone else sing the part for him, it was just a backing vocal bit...the way he sings it is sorta embarassing. I like the album, though. I'm proud of him, he's doing a very good job of getting out of Malkmus' shadow.

I really, really, really, really dislike the White Stripes. I was at those Radiohead shows too. I love Kid A though, since I first got it. It's my favorite Radiohead record by quite a bit... Amnesiac has a lot of wonderful songs on it too. How amazing was that piano rendition of "Like Spinning Plates", eh?

Seeing any CMJ shows? So far I've got tickets to Clinic/Folk Implosion (can't wait to see Clinic) at the Knitting factory and er...um..Flickerstick (I loved, loved, Bands on the Run) at Irving Plaza. </threadrot>

I'm seeing the Clinic show at Maxwell's and their opening act gig with Unwound for sure, but I haven't got tix for the Knitting Factory show yet, I probably will go if I can. I've been waiting two years for Clinic to come to the US, this is a big deal for me.

I have no other plans to see other CMJ shows, and I never really do. In the past few years, CMJ bills always just look very crap to me. It may have something to do with me not liking emo and slowcore music.

I'm seeing the rescheduled GBV show that's coming up, and the Jicks show in November. I wish I could see the David Byrne show, but I won't be. I'm going to very likely see one or more of the upcoming U2 shows in NYC too...

[ 29-08-2001: Message edited by: Flux = undergrad ]
 
 
Graham the Happy Scum
14:20 / 29.08.01
Sounds like I'll like the new Stereolab then, since I've basically flogged "Cobra and Phases Group" to death. That mini-album last year I didn't mind so much either.

What else? The new Paul Kelly album is good if you like Paul Kelly. Aside from that, well, just been catching up on old stuff.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
14:25 / 29.08.01
quote:Originally posted by Flux = undergrad:


I really, really, really, really dislike the White Stripes.



You know, I didn't like them at all when I first heard the first album. My girlfriend's little sister bought me it, because she thought I'd like it and I had never heard of them before. I listened to it, or part of it, and kind of shrugged.

For some reason I picked it up again a few weeks ago and now I can't get the songs out of my head. I think Jack White writes some great/songs and lyrics in a style I used to think was crap. But maybe i'm just a big poseur. They're far better than JSBX though.
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
14:30 / 29.08.01
Honestly, I'm not sure what all of these people are seeing in Shuggie Otis. I've heard a bunch of his records, a former roommate was really into him, but it sounds so bland to my ears. Too easy-listening lite pop for my tastes, I think...

Well, about the White Stripes: my first exposure to them was seeing them opening up for Sleater-Kinney two nights in a row, and having them suck far beyond the realm of comprehension both nights, for 70 minutes at a time. I forever resent them for making those two and a half hours of my life terrible. Actually, I mentioned this to a girl who I've had a really bizarre on-and-off again relationship with over the past few years the other day, and she remarked that she's made far more than just two hours of my life miserable and yet I still like her, so perhaps she has a point.

[ 29-08-2001: Message edited by: Flux = undergrad ]
 
 
rizla mission
08:15 / 30.08.01
I honestly find it difficult to understand how The White Stripes playing live could ever be described as 'sucking beyond the realms of comprehension'.

I recorded a live set of there's off the radio about a fortnight ago and I can't beee-liievve how fucking good it is.

'You're Pretty Good-looking' has to be one of the most fantasticly joyous, noisy songs ever. And that bit where they're playing some other song and they swerve off into Link Wray's 'Jack the Ripper' - yow! And you haven't lived till you've heard their version of 'Jolene'..

It honestly makes one believe the hype which their albums - whilst extremely good - can never live up to.

But, um, one man's meat is another man's poison and all that I suppose .. I'm sure the Holy Spirit of Rock n' Roll hasn't deserted you completely..
 
 
johnny whatif
08:57 / 30.08.01
quote: They're far better than JSBX though.

In what way, though, todd? Do they rock harder? More melodic? Not as screely?

I only ask 'cos i love the JSBX, and i'm on a major new-and-random-album-buying kick at the moment (bored shitless of everything i've been listening to for the last while), so if you reckon they're similar enough to equate the two, i might pick some White Stripes stuff up.

The earlier, bluesier album sounds nice - what's it called?

Also, while i'm here, can anyone else recommend anything in a kind of a <noise/rock/blues/squawky/YEEAAUH!> type vein? I've been listening to a lot of electronica lately, and i've hit the backlash...

Sorry, all, i just realised that "screely" is a made-up word... Umm, think... Screely = oscillating distorty staticcy feedback-type noises.

[ 30-08-2001: Message edited by: johnny whatif ]
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
10:53 / 30.08.01
In all fairness, the show I saw was from over a year ago, so I will concede that perhaps they are much better live now. My memories don't lie: they were obnoxious and horrible...and the drummer was completely inept, the guitarist did not impress me one bit, the vocals weren't anything to write home about.

I'm really put off by their 'brother and sister' shtick (they are in fact ex-spouses) and their costumes. Too much gimmick for me.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
15:01 / 30.08.01
quote:Originally posted by johnny whatif:
Also, while i'm here, can anyone else recommend anything in a kind of a <noise/rock/blues/squawky/YEEAAUH!> type vein?
Well, Jon always did want to be Kim Salmon. Fact. If you can dig up a copy of Kim's album Sin Factory, you might find what you're looking for. Backing band's The Surrealists.

It's good for what ails yer.

I'm massively underwhelmed by the White Stripes, too.
 
 
johnny whatif
08:13 / 31.08.01
Rothkoid - Cool, thanks, i'll keep my beady little eyes peeled for that...

Todd - Question, what's the name of the White Stripes "bluesier" first album? Is it self-titled?

<grins at the thought of wandering round town tomorrow and having Magical Neo-music Weekend... Ownership CDs will be mine! Hoorrra!>

 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:13 / 31.08.01
Thanks to the wonders of Audiogalaxy and a friend with a CD burner, I got no less than four new albums last weekend. They even came with convincing little colour-printed covers... neat. Remember kids, it's not "stealing", it's "a new model of music distribution".

What I got, then:

The Dirty Three - first album. I think someone was right, this is actually better than their recent stuff. Fave bits include pretty much all the first three trakcs, the harmonica on 'The Last Night' (and the screaming at the end), and of course, 'Everything's Fucked', which is just devastating. Sobbarama.

Le Tigre - eponymous album. Has gone straight into my favourite 20 albums ever list, or something like that. Intelligent but poppy, angry but melodic, sad but optimistic, quirky but hardlly ever self-indulgent. 'Deceptacon' is as good an opening track as anyone has ever recorded. 'Hot Topic' and 'What's Yr Take On Cassavettes?' are the smartest, coolest songs I've heard in ages (I'd say "a breath of fresh air" if it didn't sound so wanky).
'Phanta' sounds like it could have been on The Holy Bible. 'Eau D'Bedroom Dancing' makes Morrisey look like a complete amateur at writing about, erm, dancing in your bedroom. 'Les And Ray' is just the sweetest thing ever. Oh, it's just all too good, and I could go on for ages. Honestly, this band make me feel about 15 again, the extent to which I want to write their name on my DMs, if I still wore DMs. Since I don't, I may get a Le Tigre tattoo.

Peaches - 'Teaches Of Peaches'. Simply put, aural porn. Like a scuzzy lo-fi Lil' Kim rapping huskily over Suicide instrumentals. Gets a bit one-note after a while, but worth it for the, ah, lyrical content...

Sleater-Kinney - 'All Hands On The Bad One'. Haven't really listened to/clicked with this one as a whole album yet - just listening to stand-out tracks like 'Ballad Of A Ladyman', 'You're No Rock'n'Roll Fun', '#1 Must Have' and the title track. They all rock. Love Corin whatsername's voice, love the lyrics ("I could be demure / like girls who write songs for / boys who are fearful / of getting an earful / but I just gotta ROCK!") - rock indeed.

[ 31-08-2001: Message edited by: The Flyboy ]
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
10:14 / 31.08.01
quote:Originally posted by The Flyboy:
I think someone was right, this is actually better than their recent stuff.

Most recent stuff. I was a bit disappointed by the last album; but I still think the preceding two are much better than the first... worth searching out. As is the Praise soundtrack, if you can find it.
 
 
deletia
10:17 / 31.08.01
PLus, if they got a singer, they could be a bit like the Bad Seeds. Yay!
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
10:44 / 31.08.01
...except they've already done it, on occasion, with Nick Cave. And with Low, too. Keep up, Haus.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
10:48 / 31.08.01
quote:Originally posted by The Flyboy:


Le Tigre - eponymous album. Has gone straight into my favourite 20 albums ever list, or something like that. Intelligent but poppy, angry but melodic, sad but optimistic, quirky but hardlly ever self-indulgent. 'Deceptacon' is as good an opening track as anyone has ever recorded. ]


I must agree with you on the inherent greatness of this album. And may I say, you don't know joy until you storm off after a fight, knowing that you're right, "Deceptacon" playing at top volume in your discman as the cab speeds you accross town.

Since I don't, I may get a Le Tigre tattoo.
[/QUOTE]

This is one of the coolest tattoo ideas I've ever heard... almost enough to make a girl travel to England just to see it!
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
13:25 / 31.08.01
I fucking love Peaches to death...you've got to go see her live, especially if she is performing with Gonzales and/or Taylor Savvy. It's total performance pop art sex heaven.

She's huge here in NYC...

Flyboy, is that yr first S-K record?
I probably wouldn't have recommended that one as a first if it was... if you haven't, do get Hot Rock. That one's the big amazing genius record, and Dig Me Out is the one with all the hits on it, and Call The Doctor is the really vicious punk one. the self titled has its moments, but comes off more as a demo/manifesto than the later records...

[ 31-08-2001: Message edited by: Flux = undergrad ]
 
 
deletia
13:57 / 31.08.01
quote:Originally posted by Rothkoid:
...except they've already done it, on occasion, with Nick Cave. And with Low, too. Keep up, Haus.



Down the front, liked them before they were slightly less small than they are now, gone a bit commercial and sell-out, powerful indie voodoo, T-shirt signed by the band, Martin "Fiddly" Bell is a close personal friend...I think everyone can fill in the rest.

I like I Dream of Wires before they were dead, you know.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:00 / 31.08.01
According to her website, Peaches performed in the past year at none other than 93 Feet East, very local to me and much berated by various hatin' members of the London contingent. And I missed it, cos I'd never heard of her then... Gutted.

Cherry, if you say things like that I'l have to actually get the tattoo... but what if they turn shit in five years time? It'd be like if I'd got a Manic Street Preachers tattoo when I was 16.

Incidentally, is anyone else aware of the anti-Le Tigre feelings that have been generated by their decision to play a women's music festival that operates a "women-born-women only" door policy (and thus has led to accusations of transophobia)? There's a thread about it here on the Strap-on.org boards and another one here at Chainsaw.com (which also mentions the imminent new Le Tigre lp!).

I dunno... usually I'm wary of saying things like "fight the real enemy", or whatever, but the level of venom directed at Le Tigre by some of these people (which seems to happily include accusations of selling-out and rock star ego, and blatant rumour-mongering/gossip, all very green-eyed) seems a little ridiculous... Maybe this deserves its own thread (I keep saying that and not starting them - will only do so if people are really keen).

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