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The Return Of Rothkoid

08:08 / 18.12.01

quote:Originally posted by Vadrice:
that ass Timothy Dalton. Best thing those two have ever done, bar none.?Steady on, bucko. I think you'll find that Timothy Dalton's shot at Prince Barin in Flash Gordon is the best thing he's ever, ever, ever done. Whip-fighting with Sam Jones? Sorry, but ain't no cannibalism beatin' that.

In fact...

And if it is Anthony Edwards from ER in that flick - isn't getting ejector-seated to death and providing some homoerotic subtext (not that there's a lack of it elsewhere, mind) in Top Gun better? Come ON!

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STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

08:38 / 18.12.01

"Easy Wheels". easily the best movie ever. Scripted by Ivan Raimi, directed by (I don't remember the name off-hand, but I learnt recently that it WAS Sam Raimi under a different name... kind of explains why the hero's called Bruce...). I can't describe it... suffice to say, it's ACE.
"Footloose". Funniest movie ever.
AND... classic underrated movie of all time:
WHITE MEN CAN'T JUMP. Wonderful.

08:50 / 18.12.01

'Regeneration'. Have a feeling I mentioned this before, but wotthehell.

It's a WW1 film (Pat Barker novel adaptation - the novel is better) about Sassoon and Wilfred Owen at Craiglockhart. It's not too heritage, and it's not gung-ho or flashy about the actual war bits. And the acting is pretty good - even James Wilby doesn't do too badly, and he's usually absolutely dreadful.

08:50 / 18.12.01

quote: Some strange film I can't remember the title of that I've only seen once about this cameraman/murderer who ends up killing himself on a bladed camera after running this gauntlet of tripwires that set off cameras...
amazing.

Sounds like PEEPING TOM to me.

13:29 / 18.12.01

quote:Originally posted by Kit-Cat Club:
'Regeneration'. Have a feeling I mentioned this before, but wotthehell.

It's a WW1 film (Pat Barker novel adaptation - the novel is better) about Sassoon and Wilfred Owen at Craiglockhart. It's not too heritage, and it's not gung-ho or flashy about the actual war bits. And the acting is pretty good - even James Wilby doesn't do too badly, and he's usually absolutely dreadful.

YES!!!

Lucked into seeing this in the theater, and was amazed!!

On the other hand, last night on cable I caught "Joe vs The Volcano," an odd little film starring Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan before they were huge. The production design was *really nice,* obviously on a budget, but very evocative. And the story was great. Sort of like "Ikiru" crossed with a Warner Brothers cartoon.

02:47 / 19.12.01

Brain Candy.

04:16 / 19.12.01

yes. peeping tom was precisely it. Thank you.

12:37 / 19.12.01

THE SHADOW and THE ROCKETEER - Two near perfect versions of late 30's pulp style heroes, the sort of guys who attracted attention before the long underwear craze was kicked off by that blue guy with the 'S' on his chest.

I admire the direction in THE SHADOW, Russell Mulcahy makes a brave stab at filming an invisible hero, when he turns into The Shadow ( and isn't invisible ) he LOOKS right, and Penelope Ann Miller is absolutely stunning. It's the best film Alec Baldwin ever made - and it's so cool that the wife and I actually bought a replica of the dagger that plays such a major role.

ROCKETEER is just beautiful - perfect soundtrack, classic planes, zeppellins, rocket powered Nazi cartoons ( you have to see it ). Wonderfully classy - I'm actually glad the movie failed financially since it means that, unlike Batman or Darkman, the character was never watered down by a succession of lousy sequels, and I can bring it to the attention of discerning viewers as yourselves. ROCKETEER is simply the best live action movie Disney ever made - eclipsing even 20,000 LEAGUES ( The James Mason version ) .

Lazlo Woodbine [some call me Laz]

13:03 / 19.12.01

Hardware, wicked film, total rip off of an old 2000AD story, very well done though

Deathmachine, so shit its supurb.
Cross between Terminator, Predator, Alien, Robocop, Hardware and an old skool arcade game.
Brad Douriff is a god in that film, why is he not in more stuff?

Foxxy Feminist Fury

14:24 / 19.12.01

quote:Originally posted by The Haus of Pancakes:

For me..."Labyrinth", and no, I'm not being ironic, I genuinely believe it to be mighty.

Wow. I never actually saw all of "Labrynth." But I remember the night I saw David Bowie dressed as the evil little bastard he was playing in the movie. It was a hot night in early May, I was at a slumber party, I was 14, and lo began my first overtly sexual crush. Thus David Bowie will always have a special place in my heart. ESPECIALLY Labrynth-ized Bowie.

>>sigh<<

Foxxy Feminist Fury

14:30 / 19.12.01

quote:Originally posted by kegboy:

OFFICE SPACE
Damn funny for the 9to5 'ers.

Office Space is fucking HILARIOUS!!! I love when the Michael Bolton guy who loves hip-hop locks his car door when the black guy comes by selling something. I love the suspenders boss guy - and I especially love when they beat they take the fax machine out to the middle of a field and beat the living crap out of it. SO funny.

My little brother loves this movie, and he's never set foot in an office in his life. FYI.

Foxxy Feminist Fury

14:38 / 19.12.01

Ok my favorite underrated movie is definitely "Holy Smoke!" Yes, there are problems with it - like I don't understand why Kate peeing is supposed to mean, and it gets a little wacked out at the end, but the parts that are good are REALLY good. I've seen this movie many times and maybe I relate because I find the issues dealing with power and control and parents and asserting one's indepence and religion and spirituality similar to things I've dealt with, but I always feel empowered after I see it.

I love the scene when Harvey Keitel shows up at the Sydney airport and they do the whole montage with "I Am, I Said" playing. Brilliant.

Also this movie is very fiery. There is a lot of fire in this movie - sparks, candles, flames, and I swear the intensity of the story is matched by the size of the fire at that time. There's a really cool scene when Harvey and Kate are talking to each other and it's shot through the candle flame, that I love love love.

I also love quite a few of the speeches Kate gets to give in this movie.

And I think this movie kicks fucking ass over "The Piano!"

14:54 / 19.12.01

THis one is probably so obscure, is not even rated (I think):
"Before Sunrise", with Julie Delpi and the bloke.

16:04 / 19.12.01

quote:Originally posted by Marquis de Jade:
THis one is probably so obscure, is not even rated (I think):
"Before Sunrise", with Julie Delpi and the bloke.

Ethan Hawke. Directed by Richard Linklater.

One of my top five movies ever.

And the characters return briefly in Linklater's new one -- Waking Life.
So good. See it when you can.

- g

19:09 / 19.12.01

Office Space, Suicide Kings, Freddie got Fingered, and 12 Monkeys

The Knowledge +1

19:09 / 19.12.01

Yeah Holy Smoke is really good, and Labirynth - I fucking LOVED this film when I was younger. Watched it on acid recently (well, three years ago) and found out all sorts of weird connotations/metaphors behind it. Had to turn it off after twenty minutes though because it was spinning us out.

And Bowie is king of cool in this.

"The babe
What babe?
The babe with the power!
What power?"

Robot Man Reformed

18:39 / 24.12.01

Pearl Harbor, almost narrowly beat out my other top fave films when it came out, and despite the harsh, bullying wall of criticism, the quiet scenes are beautiful in their subtle authenticity.

Avengers, I say all the ones who bitch up on it are merely jealous of its assured direction, economized to the grandest effect SFX, and Oscar-material acting by all the leads.

Batman & Robin, long before Tigerland, acclaimed director Joel Schumaker made this little seen movie. Go discover it. Now. This has done it so many times for me that physical sex is impossible for me now.

The Sixth Day & End Of Days, Arnold. What more does this world need to be perfect?

Urban Legends - The Final Cut, will go down in moviehistory for its shocking, exciting new way of use of editing.

19:37 / 24.12.01

quote:Originally posted by Your Soulmate Is Here:
Pearl Harbor, almost narrowly beat out my other top fave films when it came out, and despite the harsh, bullying wall of criticism, the quiet scenes are beautiful in their subtle authenticity.

Avengers, I say all the ones who bitch up on it are merely jealous of its assured direction, economized to the grandest effect SFX, and Oscar-material acting by all the leads.

Batman & Robin, long before Tigerland, acclaimed director Joel Schumaker made this little seen movie. Go discover it. Now. This has done it so many times for me that physical sex is impossible for me now.

The Sixth Day & End Of Days, Arnold. What more does this world need to be perfect?

Urban Legends - The Final Cut, will go down in moviehistory for its shocking, exciting new way of use of editing.

Hold on.

This is called Underrated movies that you love.. Those films are only underrated in that someone said that "they weren't that bad really". Oh yes they were.

Although I agree above with Dave, Rocketeer ROCKED. Not quite to the level of brilliance described, but it was pretty kick-ass anyway. I mean, _the rocket pack_ was cool enough in itself. Lovely Art Deco styling, and some of the vast sets worked well.

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20:46 / 24.12.01

I can't believe anyone considers Labyrinth underrated. Who doesn't love that film? Nobody.

You remind me of the babe.
What babe?
The babe with the power.
What power?
The power of voodoo.
Who do?
You do.
Do what?
Remind me of the babe.

Fuck yeah.

The Knowledge +1

09:00 / 25.12.01

Pearl harbour? Batman and Robin? FUCKING ALL THE OTHERS?

Please tell me what you are on, i want some

10:02 / 25.12.01

quote: Pearl Harbor, almost narrowly beat out my other top fave films when it came out, and despite the harsh, bullying wall of criticism, the quiet scenes are beautiful in their subtle authenticity.
Avengers, I say all the ones who bitch up on it are merely jealous of its assured direction, economized to the grandest effect SFX, and Oscar-material acting by all the leads.

Batman & Robin, long before Tigerland, acclaimed director Joel Schumaker made this little seen movie. Go discover it. Now. This has done it so many times for me that physical sex is impossible for me now.

The Sixth Day & End Of Days, Arnold. What more does this world need to be perfect?

Urban Legends - The Final Cut, will go down in moviehistory for its shocking, exciting new way of use of editing.

Please tell me you are on medication, strong medication.

10:51 / 25.12.01

I think it's joking. That's why I edited my original post from an ENTIRELY serious "whattheFUCK?!!" response.

End of Days? Mclank>"You know the number of the beast? 666? Well, in dreams, numbers appear UPSIDE DOWN"</clank> Give me a BREAK.

11:42 / 25.12.01

you missed my humour too....

SPOILERS

....Angel Heart what an underrated movie. Ok, so Mickey Rourke, but it has a superb Lovecraftian feel. Pity about the 'Hey this is whats going on, if you haven't already noticed yet' near the end, but hey.
Heard recently that there is a longer edit that makes sense of the fan motif, that suddenly disappears in the standard edit, without making true sense/use. Anyone?

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Kali, Queen of Kitteh

09:08 / 26.12.01

I am rather fond of Angel Heart meself.

So at least you have one consenting voice against the dissents of all the others that will come.

The Return Of Rothkoid

09:08 / 26.12.01

quote:Originally posted by Foxxy Feminist Fury:
And I think this movie kicks fucking ass over "The Piano!"Fight you for it.

--SPOILERS!--

Angel Heart did a fuckload of business when it came out - 1987 or so? At any rate, it's known as being pretty much the best thing Mickey Rourke did. Flawed, maybe, but works out. Strictly speaking, it's not actually underrated, I think; the reviews were pretty good, I think. It just doesn't get screened much, though I think it's pretty obvious the effect that Parker's grittiness had on things like Se7en - it's a shame that it doesn't get aired more often. A cinema rerelease might be nice. The longer edit you're speaking of, William, doesn't actually make much more about the fans clearer, I think. Don't want to say too much (because I have it on video and would like to introduce a couple of boarders to it at some point) but I think it's meant to be like a change in direction. Listen for the "Girl Of My Dreams" riff, too; it's playing the same role. I thought they didn't need much explanation, really; as a leitmotif I thought they worked well, and managed to ratchet things up a bit whenever they turned up. Or rather, did, when you became a bit aware of them...

Actually, now that I think of it, the added film comes right at the end, as I understand; when Rourke's having his realisations about what's going on...

Which reminds me - William; could you take the spoilers bit out of your post? Or flag it a little?

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10:56 / 26.12.01

I think you may find that Angel Heart is rather like Blade Runner, which was a cinema miss, and became a cult hit on video. Of course Blade Runner has a much greater presence in the public arena, but Angel Heart (I have found) is much less known.

The Return Of Rothkoid

19:33 / 26.12.01

According to the box on my ex-rental copy (from Australia), the film was "One of the top-ten grossing theatrical releases of 1987." Which is, as I said, why I think it's not particularly underrated. If people voting with their arses matters, it came off pretty well.

09:24 / 27.12.01

Did I mention "Highway 61"?
Amazing littel canuck film about a small town barber stuck transporting a corpse while the devil chases them trying to reclaim souls with a polaroid. A great film.

09:24 / 27.12.01

I have obviously underestimated the power of Lisa Bonet in Angel Heart....

....Mr FRost anyone?

SPOILER

A British production shot in France, has Jeff Goldblum as a serial killer who claims to be the Devil (Ha Ha). There is something about this film and the title performance that gave it quite an edge, especially Goldblums interaction with the patients at teh mental unit. I would love to know if it is still doing the rounds on video or cable.

09:15 / 28.12.01

quote:Originally posted by kegboy:
Did I mention "Highway 61"?

I thought it was OK, noting great, IMHO. However, it did have a cameo of Jello Biafra as a Border Trooper.

Speaking of Jello, he's in a interesting documentary called "Plaster Caster", about Cynthia Plaster Caster, this woman from Chicago who makes plaster replicas of rock star's cocks. Also has interviews with Wayne Kramer, Danny Doll Rod, Camille Paglia & a bunch of other people I can't recall off-hand.

Another fave documentary worth seeking out is "So Wrong They're Right", a document on 8-track collectors from all over the US. Imagine if everybody in Errol Morris' "Vernon, Florida" all were 8-track fanatics and you get the general idea.

And some that probably were mentioned, but can't be bothered to check out:

"Harold & Maude"
"The Magic Christian" (because it's got Ringo, baby.)
"O.C. & Stiggs" (with King Sunny Ade!)
"The Unheard Music" (a documentary of the punk band X, which summed up succinctly why the 80's sucked. "I must not think bad thoughts/What's this world coming to?!...")

09:15 / 28.12.01

O.C. & Stiggs fucking rocked!!!

Exotica
Kissed
Explorers
Penn and Teller Get Killed
Joe's Appartment
Bitter Moon
Sirens
La Guerre Des Tuques (eng. version: The Dog who Stopped The War

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09:13 / 29.12.01

ahhh... I remember Mr. Frost I used to love that film...

Cleanliving Ruby

11:28 / 30.12.01

So the big question is was the Mummy Returns better than Lara Croft?

I thought that was a masterpeice of postmodern genre satirizing pumped up killer action, against the backdrop of ancient global conspiracy, James Bond meets Indiana Jones meets the Illuminati meets those old Guinness adverts with Rutguer Haur meets a shoot em up computer game but.................... it's a woman!!

Girl power.

(I was deeply hungover when i saw it and that can obviously affect my response to films sometimes. Or maybe all the blockbusting hollywood films are that good and I just don't watch enough of them).

Is anyone else into this small new wave of cutting European edge movies, like Festen, Sexy Beast, Ratcatcher, The Idiots, Together. All very different films but they seem to me to represent a shift in emphasis towards a more sincere darker but very beautiful cinema....

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