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Bear
06:58 / 11.12.01
How about The Straight Story, I don't think it was slagged by the critics but it was hardly looked at.. I watched it one night with my sister when we were both stoned.. it was a really nice movie...
 
 
Fra Dolcino
10:04 / 11.12.01
Wait a minute...? Is this the Remo that was on a TV movie, that could give an orgasm to a woman by touching her wrist?

(please say yes, or I'll appear incredibly stupid)
 
 
Fra Dolcino
10:05 / 11.12.01
Wait a minute...? Is this the Remo that was on a TV movie, who knew the ways of women and could give an orgasm to a one by touching her wrist?

(please say yes, or I'll appear incredibly stupid)
 
 
Fra Dolcino
10:13 / 11.12.01
Oh well. A double post, with no delete option makes me look incredibly stupid anyways.
 
 
invisible_al
10:38 / 11.12.01
Yup Thats Remo :-) Cool film and the his Kung Fu master rocked. Same again for Cube.

Anyone seen Restless Natives? About two loosers from Scotland deciding to become highwaymen and 'rob busses'. Its quite fun, specially when they become national heros.
 
 
MJ-12
10:45 / 11.12.01
quote:Originally posted by invisible_al:
Yup Thats Remo :-) Cool film and the his Kung Fu master rocked.


Sinanju, stupid white! Sinanju is the Sun, and Kung Fu but the shadow.
 
 
Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?
11:12 / 11.12.01
Briefly.

a) Hardware did not star Carl McCoy. Carl McCoy got about two lines in it - his part was smaller (albeit more pivotal to the plot) than Lemmy's. It's a nice little film, although the creators lose points for having to be compelled to acknowledge that they ripped the plot off from a "Tharg's future shock".

b) Once again, it becomes less surprising that the Knowledge managed to turn his quondam girlfriend into a lesbian by sheer force of personality.

For me..."Labyrinth", and no, I'm not being ironic, I genuinely believe it to be mighty. "If Lucy Fell", which should probably have been the last romantic comedy, and "Mystery Men", which particularly in the "uncut" version now on sale is not only very funny but wildly endearing and features four of the people I love most in the Universe in this business called show.

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Kali, Queen of Kitteh
12:28 / 11.12.01
Um, I actually like If Lucy Fell, but then Eric Schaeffer amuses me no end....

And no, Cameron would never judge anyone about their taste in film.
 
 
Rev. Wright
12:32 / 11.12.01
Hardware 'a nice little film'.
Fella, I must say that is not the understanding that I have for this movie.
Hardware may have been a 'Future Shock' (old skool 2000AD fan), but it does take the concept alot further.
For me it is a defining movie in the genre, heralding the way for the 90's. The 80's had become a sci-fi muscle fest (They Live is a fine ironic example), with Arnie dominating the scene. Britain had been notorious for its genre output in the past and Hardware went on to show what can be done with little money and a cast of unknowns.
The use of music, cameos and style, was a nod to the alternative underground, before say, 'The Crow' had arrived(I show my individuality by 'copying' the make-up, Oh boy. hardware was a slice of the 70's and 80's cold war apocalypse, that engages a subculture spawned from Mad Max and gary Numan.
I confess to having a weakness for British genere films, and any attempt to rekindle trhis fact, has my full support.
Short of a remake of 'Quatermass', Hardware goes along way to that philosphy, occult and cyber, is sometimes best left to the British.
(for validation of this, check out 80's kids TV shows)

'...as for the good news, there is no fucking good news. So lets rock, with one of our golden oldies.'
 
 
Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?
13:00 / 11.12.01
Oh, I agree that for the money it was very accomplished and very nicely done - I remember writing an angry letter to an American magazine at the time of its release which compared it unfavourably to another "low budget" release, The Terminator, which cost about 70 times as much to make.

However, once you take away the fact that the film features lots of cool cameos from rock stars (at least two of whom cannot, sadly, act for toffee), and some vacuous shadow-play about the human race's intrinsic tendency towards self-destruction, it's basically a well-shot, quite atmospheric stalk and slash movie with a top turn by John Lynch and all Blade Runner's cast-off sets. And, given that the soundtrack was not actually very alternative - mass-market industrial of the Ministry level, IIRC - the British actors largely affected American accents, and it largely followed the pattern of the Terminator - apparently indestructible killer robot stalks woman, although in this case around her flat rather than across LA, as the forces of stubbly goodness rush to save her - I can't really see how it redefined the genre.

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Rev. Wright
13:32 / 11.12.01
Stripping away anything form a genre movie, will reveal, the genre. Thus it deflates any idea inflection by the director. Thus Stanley had taken a short comic strip, for the initial idea, one that had existed prior to 'The Terminator'.
Of course one will find an attempt to have american accents, though there are plenty of Scottish and London accent too. The cinematic versions of Quattermass intially cast an American lead, because of the obvious market potential.
The use of Drugs, Music and religion had not been soo engeged since the 70's in Horror Sci-fi. Since Hardware one finds a plethora of 'cyber-punk' movies that mimic this formula. Free jack and Death Machine to name two.
The film productio is incredible, a real 'Evil Dead' approach of getting it done and producing something that looks more than it is. Why do we still waste time and money on such things, and create star vehicles.
If anything, Hardware shares more of a nod to Cameron's Aliens, with regards the characters. But where Cameron was endorsing a W.A.S.P. idea of teh nuclear family. Stanley distrupts this by focusing on a society of males hell bent on denying a woman the right to her womb. The theme of Sensuality is not lost here, but explored, unlike many sterile genre flicks. Fertility, sexuality and sanity.
Hardware is a nod to the increasing postmodern, nihilist, capitalistic reality that was growing out of the Thatcher years, compared to US Reagan years.
Was Lincoln's character a metaphor for US interests in the UK, post WW2?

Ok the soundtrack wasn't Throbbing Gristle or Current 93, but it was reflective. capturing something of the Slimelight and Electric Ballroom at the time.

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Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?
14:00 / 11.12.01
Oh, WELL, if you'd told me that without "Hardware" we might never have had "Freejack", that would have been completely different....

Sorry. Joking.

I would say the characters are far more like "Halloween" and similar movies than "Aliens" - the screamy heroine who comes through in the end, the perverted next door neighbour, the functionaries (in this case the superintendent and his assistant, in others cops or janitors) whose duties put them in the wrong place at the wrong time and lead to bloody evisceration, the jock boyfriend and his kooky best friend (although I do like the fact that she is implicitly pregnant with Shades' child). The aesthetics are, as you say, Mad Max. The ideas I would suggest were a reaction to a lot of other things going on at the time - most obviously a reasonably entrenched "Cyberpunk" ethic and aesthetic in geek culture. "Shok!" the stroy did indeed predate the Terminator by some years, but then as both predate Hardware I don't think that matters very much (unless you mean to suggest that The Terminator plagiarises "Shok!", in which case I would point out that the plot of the Terminator is that a robot designed to look human goes back to the past in an attempt to kill the mother of the leader of the human resistance, whereas in "Shok!" a woman's boyfriend buys her the skull-like head of a battle robot to use in her art, the head then builds itself a new body from household implements and attacks the woman, having locked her in her flat. The woman is pursued but realises that the robot's vision is sensitive to heat...need I go on? Note also that IIRC Stanley only acknowledged this debt after legal action was threatened).

As I say, nice little film - it achieves most of its objectives, looks good, gets pretty good performances out of...well, John Lynch, provides some thrills and spills and touches all the bases - sex in the shower, fat bloke getting gutted, dream sequence - it's a good slasher movie with atmospheric sci-fi trimmings.

However, the mention of the Slimelight suggests that we are in fact looking at it as a piece of *goth* cinema, in which case it is up against the Crow and Razorblade Smile, and in that field I am more than happy to agree to its preeminence.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:11 / 11.12.01
Is Razorblade Smile worth seeing?
 
 
invisible_al
15:12 / 11.12.01
YES! Its silly, badly acted tosh, with the majority of parts played by the directors mates but at the same time it's a lot of fun.
And I agree with my mates that the ending of the film saves the film entirely.
 
 
Rev. Wright
15:45 / 11.12.01
Indeed the characters can be seen to jump straight out of the Slasher genre, and Halloween, with which you mention, leads me to concentrate on a point I raised.
Hardware defines for me a return to the 70's with regards to horror films, escaping the sanitised, comedy that the genre had deteriated to during the 80's. It acknowledges that it is a multi-genre film, its heritidge of the 80's., but its intent and style denote a look back to the tastes of the 70's. The morality is twisted, with no attempt to reinstate a moral equilibrium. The period that defined the slasher movie, before the reign of the sequel/s.

I dislike the term 'goth' films personally (what happened to grebo?), and would say that after the early 80's Italian post-apocalyptic, Hardware did define a 'chic'.

Its place in my heart is defined in terms of Britsh Sci-fi. It is here that it rides high, for me. It is a seminal piece in a genre that made the UK's name in cinema and television. It is the combination of Sci-fi and theology/occult that grabs me the most, as in Quatermass. Yes, it is clunky, but notice that Shades takes the acid and survives, in his 'shamanic' state of being in a slightly shifted vibration. Stanleys second film Dust Devil, demonstrates his interest in Medicine lore in a more obvious fashion.
Is the Mark 13 in fact a statement on the Catholic churches stance on contraception?
The Mark 13 is a rather supernatural monster, with indications of vampirism, brought from its lair by a mysterious figure. Is Hardware more of a Gothic horror film, rather than a goth film?
 
 
grant
16:41 / 11.12.01
quote:Originally posted by MJ-12:


Sinanju, stupid white! Sinanju is the Sun, and Kung Fu but the shadow.


A pale shadow indeed.
 
 
Saint Keggers
18:44 / 12.12.01
THE WRONG GUY
Dave Foley plays a guy who thinks he's being hunted for a murder he didnt commit. Hillarious. A Must See

THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO LITTLE
Bill Murray plays a guy who gets mistaken for a spy. Hillarious. A Should See

OFFICE SPACE
Damn funny for the 9to5 'ers.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
19:18 / 12.12.01
Okay, okay, an underrated movie I love that I am sure no one else will EVER consider underrated: 200 Cigarettes.

And maybe love is too strong a word. How about a strong affection?

(Reasons why I like it: Casey Affleck, Girls Against Boys, Paul Rudd, and did I mention Casey Affleck?)
 
 
daisy
19:23 / 12.12.01
John carpenter has made a couple of beauties ,how about 'They Live' -those fight scenes!The subliminal messages!
and 'Vampires'- that head vampire that swirls onto the screen like old lawrence llewlyn bowen!
 
 
daisy
19:28 / 12.12.01
John carpenter has made a couple of beauties ,how about 'They Live' -those fight scenes!The subliminal messages!
and 'Vampires'- that head vampire that swirls onto the screen like old lawrence llewlyn bowen!
 
 
Mr Tricks
09:44 / 13.12.01
let's not forget THE THING

Or Prince of DARKNESS
 
 
NotBlue
09:46 / 13.12.01
quote:Originally posted by PATricky:
let's not forget THE THING

Or Prince of DARKNESS


I have never known the Thing to be underrated, C.A.F.

Transformers: the movie?

O.T. Is the DVD any good?
 
 
higuita
13:32 / 13.12.01
There's always The Fog, mostly memorable (for me) for Adrienne Barbeau's erm, well, boobs.
Sorry.
 
 
Saint Keggers
14:16 / 13.12.01
Tremors
 
 
Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?
14:26 / 13.12.01
quote:Originally posted by Kali:
Okay, okay, an underrated movie I love that I am sure no one else will EVER consider underrated: 200 Cigarettes.


I liked it, although I'm not sure I'll watch it many times again. BUt lovely Christina Ricci, and lovely Jay Mohr, and (briefly) lovely, lovely, lovely lovely Janeane Garofalo.

Speaking of whom...

Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion.
 
 
Mr Tricks
19:19 / 13.12.01
Tremors was great...

anyone remember The STUFF???
 
 
Saint Keggers
03:06 / 14.12.01
I think so..wasnt that a The Blob rip-off?
How about Ghoulies
and House...
Anyone remeber Caveman (the ringo star one?)
and Kentucky Fried Movie and The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas...
Ah the movies that infected my youth...
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
10:18 / 14.12.01
quote:Originally posted by kegboy:
The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas...
Ah the movies that infected my youth...
"oooh, I love to dance a little side-step - now you see me, now you don't, I've come and gone..."

CHARLESDURNINGPATROLGO!
 
 
grant
13:00 / 14.12.01
quote:Originally posted by kegboy:
I think so..wasnt that a The Blob rip-off?


About a deadly dessert.
From space.

It's delicious!
 
 
Spatula Clarke
13:39 / 14.12.01
The Transformers - The Movie DVD is shit. Buy the video cheap.

Prince of Darkness... hmmm. It's got a clever ending, and that almost makes up for the rest of it being a bit shoddy.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
14:56 / 14.12.01
I remember seeing Transformers the Movie when I was around 10 years old, and within the first 5 minutes Spike said "Shit!" That made my week. That was the first time I ever heard a swear in a movie and it has left an indelible impression on me. I can't remember anything else from the movie except for the song...
 
 
Rev. Wright
08:33 / 15.12.01
'It is happening again'

DJ Shadow loved it
 
 
Margin Walker
01:10 / 18.12.01
quote:Originally posted by Mister Remington Finn:
but if there ever was a movie that knocked me unexpectacly(?) of my socks was.....Boondock Saints.....two Irish guys who just accidently fall into vigilantism.....nicely done storytelling....


Damn straight! For some stupid reason, it's only available from Blockbuster here in the US.

200 Cigarettes? Romy & Michelle's High School Reunion? C'mon, aren't your guys scratching the barrel's nadir here? What about Tapeheads? Slacker? Eat The Rich? Delicatessen? The Professional? House of Games?
 
 
Vadrice
02:45 / 18.12.01
best thing about Buffalo 66 is Ricci's tap dance to Moon Child. ~swoons~

I'm gonna put in a toss for Cannibal the Musical... um... Hawks with edward... um... guy from ER with the bald head and the glasses and that ass Timothy Dalton. Best thing those two have ever done, bar none.

While I'm at it, Maximum Overdrive, but I have sentimental reasons. ~cackles at that sentance~
And I HATE ACDC.

Bandits (the German one, not the one with Billy Bob)...

Some strange film I can't remember the title of that I've only seen once about this cameraman/murderer who ends up killing himself on a bladed camera after running this gauntlet of tripwires that set off cameras...
amazing.

The second Highlander film. Am I the ONLY one who thinks it was pretty damn cool? Screw that... am I the only one who actually is not retchedly wishing it didn't exist?
 
 
Saint Keggers
03:03 / 18.12.01
AS far as Im concerned there was only one Highlander movie, one crow movie (although I havent seen the third yet) and one Citizen Kane movie...and the only Karate Kid was Ralph Macchio.

Also I think Explorers was a great film.
 
  

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