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The Scrapheap of Overrated Movie Crap

 
  

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LyssaJonze
14:12 / 03.10.01
Ok, first of all, thanks to everyone that replied to my first ever thread. 5 pages of replies so far which ain't half bad.
And now it has spawned a freakish, ugly, and yet incredibly worthwhile second thread.

What I cannot fathom is how we've got through over 30 replies to this without mentioning the behemoth of utter overrated SHITE that was the Jim Cameron blockbuster "Titanic."
Girls swooned for a man with a head shaped like a Habitat kettle. Men got hardons from gawking at Kate Winslet's stretchmarked jubblies.
And everyone else thought it was 2 and a half hours of shite, with some nifty special effects at the end.
People went down with the Titanic, lost their lives to a disaster that could very easily have been avoided. But fuck, who cares about that when you can twist history, get a British chick to whack 'em out, and get a couple of lobotomised monkeys to write you a heartfelt love story between two characters that couldn't be MORE annoying?!

In the words of another man that makes cash from flogging all manner of dead movie horses, Martin Lawrence: "Nigga, please ..."
 
 
Jack Fear
15:39 / 03.10.01
quote:Originally posted by LyssaJonze:
jubblies
...makes me laugh like a loon. Lovely word.
 
 
Sam_Chunon
16:46 / 03.10.01
Over-rated shite: BEING JOHN MALKOVICH. I can't believe any film with such a fundamental screenplay flaw can be acclaimed like it was. The whole fucking thing builds up to the explaination of WHY the tunnel into his mind existed. And when that explaination came, it was a bunch of fucking incoherent bollocks, when it SCREAMED out to be a simple, one-line suprise that made you think "Ah, excellent!". I have watched this film a couple of times with different people and EVERYONE, including me, just looses interest after the cock-and-shite story about vessels, or whatever. BEING JOHN MALKOVICH: I hate you.
 
 
The Natural Way
17:01 / 03.10.01
Anything by Tim Burton

What about Ed Wood? It's not exactly his standard fair, now is it?

And the Magnolia naysayers can just shut up and wait to be tamed by the cock.

And Rizla's deconstruction of DBC's "critique" of Pulp Fiction? Spot on.

Nina can just shut up comparing Bladerunner to the book and judge it on it's own merits. And what's the matter guys? Not enough punchy action in Crouching Tiger for ya?

The swaying in the trees sequence is fucking great. It looks fucking great, it's full of atmosphere.....

I tell you what's an overated film: Event Horizon. So many people here, and elsewhere, seem to think it's great; really, you know, "disturbing". Do I even need to build a case for why it's not?

I'm in such a bad mood tonight.

Blame it on Channel Health.
 
 
Rage
20:55 / 03.10.01
quote:I was a fan of Todd Solondz's previous two efforts, but this one...no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Welcome to the Dollhouse was excellent. I loved how it made me uncomfortable in this amazingly truthful way. Happiness just bored the fuck out of me, and seemed more into shock value than anything else. What was his other film?

quote:The whole fucking thing builds up to the explaination of WHY the tunnel into his mind existed. And when that explaination came, it was a bunch of fucking incoherent bollocks

Maybe you just didn't understand it. I LOVED that movie, and thought the explanation was hilarious. In my opinion, BJM is absurdity and creativity at its best. If anything, it was UNDERrated... and should have won Best Screeplay at the Academy Awards.

Just my opinion.

[ 04-10-2001: Message edited by: Rage ]
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:44 / 04.10.01
I think dissing Being John Malkovich because the explanation is "incoherent" might be missing the point of the film a tad...
 
 
No star here laces
08:38 / 04.10.01
And how the fuck can anyone cuss Happiness for being 'inappropriate' - for fucks sakes, morons, the whole point of the film is to shove actual human misery in your face so that you reappraise why cinematic convention means sex and violence are funny and lighthearted. God almighty.

My top two piles of celluloid shite:

2001: a space odyssey
Fuck this movie. Especially fuck that 15 minute sequence of oil on the lens and similar grateful dead lightshow cod psychedelic titwank moments. Too long, far too far up its own arse, cheap use of stirring classical music and NOTHING FUCKINHG HAPPENS. Saying you like this movie doesn't make you out to be a sensitive aesthete who understands great cinema - it makes you out to be a boring nerdy cunt who mistakes pomposity for profundity.

Apocalypse Now
How apt that Marlon Brando is in this movie. Like him it has its origins in artistic genius (Heart of Darkness, On the Waterfront) but has become unrecognisably bloated, self important and lazy. "The horror, the horror" - I just about shat myself laughing. How cheap and hammy was that face-in-shadow bullshit? That belonged in a 1940s Hammer effort or a Dangermouse cartoon. And the Doors soundtrack - euch. I loathe the Doors. And ooh, they play 'The End' where you 'least' expect it. How clever.
 
 
DaveBCooper
08:57 / 04.10.01
Couldn't agree more that a story is a series of interesting events... but not a series of coincidences; and I don't know if the Macbeth comparison really holds up, because the events you list mainly feature the setup of the play, with Macbeth's decisions to act causing the majority of the events, whereas the Pulp Fiction story features a character whose actions are little more than him being carried along by a series of events.

And given that PF is supposedly based in the real world, and a masterpiece of storytelling (like I say, allegedly), this kind of coincidence Deus Ex Machina stuff makes it more like an episode of the TV show 'Chance in a Million', albeit one without the same degree of self-knowledge.

Resorting to coincidence is no way to write a story, but developing a series of interesting events ? THAT's writing.

DBC
 
 
deletia
08:57 / 04.10.01
Oh God, I agree with Ty. Feels so good...but it's so bad.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:57 / 04.10.01
quote:Originally posted by DaveBCooper:
And given that PF is supposedly based in the real world...


Uh?

I would say that the title kind of gives the game away that it isn't "based in the real world" at all... for starters. It's an incredibly stylised world.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
08:57 / 04.10.01
oh yeah. apocolypse now was another draaaag to sit through. only managed an hour and got so bored i couldn't watch the rest.

i also agree about being john malkovitch. it was one of those films, like american beauty, that i enjoyed when i was watching it, and came out of the cinema and instantly forgot what it was i liked about it, and only the irritating bits stuck in my head....
 
 
The Strobe
11:19 / 04.10.01
Oh yeah, iivix, love the Conversatoin and Andromeda Strain.

I find Shawshank Redemption horribly overrated - it's good, but not the best film ever, and it's FAR too long.

I also wasn't hugely impressed with Short Cuts. Moments of genius, great direction, but a mess.
 
 
No star here laces
13:18 / 04.10.01
quote:Originally posted by The Haus of Correction:
Oh God, I agree with Ty. Feels so good...but it's so bad.


Motherfucker. Don't ever do this to me again...
 
 
Seth
14:32 / 04.10.01
quote:Originally posted by young runt:
Anything by Tim Burton
What about Ed Wood? It's not exactly his standard fair, now is it?

And the Magnolia naysayers can just shut up and wait to be tamed by the cock.


I stand wonderfully corrected. Ed Wood is marvellous. I eat humble pie.

All the Batman films are shit, though, and he deserves hatred forever for starting such an appalling franchise.

You're totally right about the Magnolia naysayers. Their time will come.
 
 
Not Here Still
16:27 / 04.10.01
The fuckin' Parallax View was a big pile of shit. Then again, it was a Warren Beatty film, which should have given me a clue.

Didn't really go anywhere, poorly explained 'conspiracy' which doesn't make much sense, all that bollocks about the Parallax Corporation - don't know why I bothered taping it off the TV, never mind watching it.

I think JFK was far better executed.
 
 
DrDee
09:08 / 05.10.01
In general
. Anything by Quentin Tarantino (the good bits are stolen, the rest is rubbish)
. Anything by Spielberg, with the possible exception of "Raiders of the Lost Ark"
. Anything by Bertolucci (with a special mention for Last Tango in Paris)

In the specific
. Eyes Wide Shut
. The Others
. The English Patient
. Castaway
 
 
rizla mission
11:24 / 05.10.01
quote:Originally posted by Paleface:

I find Shawshank Redemption horribly overrated - it's good, but not the best film ever, and it's FAR too long.


It's not good. It's hackneyed thoughtless predictable bollocks that tries to, and apparently succeeds in, creating an emotional responce in the audience by piling on so much hammy sub-Speilberg shmaltszery (no way is that a word) that they have no choice but to respond.
Fight it children, it's a shit TV movie with classier cinematography and whinier 'stirring' music.
 
 
Bug Powder
13:05 / 08.10.01
Unbreakable rates very high as one of the lamest pretentious movies of all time.

Artificial Inteligence is also major league lame.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
13:56 / 08.10.01
quote:Originally posted by Tyrone Mushylaces:
And how the fuck can anyone cuss Happiness for being 'inappropriate' - for fucks sakes, morons, the whole point of the film is to shove actual human misery in your face so that you reappraise why cinematic convention means sex and violence are funny and lighthearted. God almighty.



I totally disagree with you. The wholepoint of the film is to shove the misery of banal suburbanites who solondz looks down upon in your face so you (a) feel superior to them as the filmmaker does (B) laugh at them. There is not an ounce of empathy in Solondz's script or camera work for any of his grotesque characters. Shit film, shit agenda by the filmmaker.
 
 
No star here laces
14:59 / 08.10.01
How on earth can you say that? The brilliance of 'Welcome to the Dollhouse' is in the way that Solondz creates Dawn Weiner as an unlovable human being - she is ugly, stupid, spiteful and petty. And then he makes you empathise with her and feel her pain. All through that film I was praying for something good to happen to her - despite the fact that in any other movie she would have been a bit-part, 2-d figure of fun that you wouldn't have given a moment's thought to. I say that is empathetic beyond the course of duty.

Happiness, less so. I'd agree it is a much more misanthropic film. But to me, that has no effect on the point that I made which is that the nature of the misery in Happiness puts other movies into sharp relief. Why is it okay to laugh at people getting killed, but not at children being raped? Murder is clearly the most horrible crime, yet it's okay for Hannibal Lecter to be made into a lovable hero, but Happiness is inappropriate in its use of humour? Give me a break. Plenty of people die in 'comic' ways in action movies. Solondz creates scenes in Happiness which use scriptwriting and directorial cues from comedy and farce, and then applies them to paedophilia in a deeply unsettling way, thus forcing you to question what you normally see as 'entertainment'.

But whatever, I like his shit, you don't - we're not going to resolve this, I just think your reasons for not liking these films are daft.
 
 
Mordant Carnival
17:46 / 10.10.01
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The Watcher, or what ever that pile of trash starring Keanu Reeves and James Spader *pauses for Homer Simpson-esque drooling* was called. Oh, look, the detectiveand the murderer are two parts of a whole, like yin and yang, like light and dark, it's like a relationship, do you see? Do you see? No? Then we'll throw in even more dismal fucking exposition thinly disguised as dialogue.

Pass me the piano wire...
 
 
RadJose
23:28 / 10.10.01
man i'm gorra catch some hell for this, but i think that "pi" "requium for a dream" are too far overrated by the likes of "indy film goers" man i thought those movies were SUCH A FUCKIN DRAG and the thing some friends go on about as so cool, i've either seen done better, or new a thousand high schools who could think that up, DUH! and as much as i like the cohen bros. "fargo" was shite
 
 
Ierne
12:37 / 11.10.01
I rented Last Tango in Paris recently because so many people I know were raving about how great it was and how sexy it was and the cinematography and Marlon Brando and...

...what a waste of a free Blockbuster rental. The color was muddy, the characterization was shite, and the sex scenes put me to sleep. Tedious.
 
  

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