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Jamieon
16:39 / 25.08.01
Believe it or not, it's because the Charles Atlas people have made such a fuss about it.
 
 
quinine92001
20:35 / 25.08.01
I liked the first storyline of JLA (1-4) as well as the rock of ages issues. Another favorite from the JLA series was the story that involved the JSA and Shazam.
 
 
sleazenation
23:39 / 25.08.01
Actually i have recently heard a rumour that the charles atlas legal problem looks set to be solved by DC paying him some cash paving the way for a flex trade... not sure how reliable this rumour is tho
 
 
Higher than the sun :)
11:06 / 26.08.01
erm Crash course in Morrison.
Kid Eternity, Kill Your Boyfreind, Flex Mentallo, The Invisbles, New Xmen.
Kit Eternity and Flex for his undiltuted ideas on the cosmos at large.
Kill Your Boyfreind for its dark humour.
The Invisibles to see how a good idea can be ground down into a guns and titsfest by trying to appeal to the common denomiator (or the Dollar market) and New Xmen to gauge how far Grant Morrisons writing has matured in the past 15 years.
Yes you can go the whole compleist route but to be honest. Why waste the money? Beg borrow or steal them and read them if you feel the need.
Not everting he wrote is brilliant people. Be selective. Cut the wheat from the chaff.
 
 
Jamieon
11:45 / 26.08.01
quote: The Invisibles to see how a good idea can be ground down into a guns and titsfest by trying to appeal to the common denomiator (or the Dollar market)

Monica, that is such bollocks.

You're talking about a small section of volume two (and I think the notion that that can be reduced to a "guns and titsfest" is very, very spurious and definitely open to debate), but extend it to encompass the whole piece. God, talk about generalizing and misrepresentation..... Volume 3 didn't even contain any fucking guns until the siege on Westminster Abbey, and they hardly represented the meat of what was going on - the core of the story. In fact, the invisibles was, amongst other things, concerned with an end to war (an end to the individual and the "other"). And Morrison's such a cynical capitalist......Sheesh.

And I don't think you can talk about Morrison's writing without including Zenith. Right there you have the roots of his "new", condensed style. And Outer Gods, and pop comics, and "we are the forgotten", and fifth dimensional warfare........

[ 26-08-2001: Message edited by: runt ]
 
 
A
10:19 / 27.08.01
Flex Mentallo was stopped from being re-released because Charles Atlas successfully sued (because Flex Mentallo looks like the guy in those weird "the insult that made a man out of Mac" Charles Atlas ads from the 70's).

But a judge overturned this (i think at about the start of the year), so it is now able to be re-released and hopefully will be soon.

Adam
 
 
glassonion
11:48 / 27.08.01
Jungiasphere? fucksake boy it's called the collective unconscious. looking for work on a lifestyle magazine? 'no its okay i can squeeze those words together it's well innovative y'know'

on topic the bit in skrullkillkrew when Cap plays peekaboo wuith the li'l kiddy is the best shit gm ever took.
 
 
z3r0
14:13 / 27.08.01
What is Flex Mentallo about???
 
 
sleazenation
14:27 / 27.08.01
flex mentallo is about fictional reality and how fiction can impact upon mundane realities. its also a pretty good apothesis for the superhero genre.
 
 
Jamieon
14:48 / 27.08.01
quote:
Jungiasphere? fucksake boy it's called the collective unconscious. looking for work on a lifestyle magazine? 'no its okay i can squeeze those words together it's well innovative y'know'


Don't listen to that twat. He's busy trying to invent his own language based on text messaging. It makes me want to puke, it does.

[ 27-08-2001: Message edited by: runt ]
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
16:33 / 27.08.01
I was actually flipping through the JLAs the other day and I was struck by how much, and this may sound like absolute nitpicking bullshit, the lettering would occasionally distract me from how top notch the stories were. It always made the writing look slipshod. Does that make any sense? I mean, looking at the flat out slickness of the New X-Men lettering (and thank god they didn't do one of those awful handwriting fonts that made the first Punisher series nigh-illegible and made Wolverine a laughing stock for so many years) and then look at the lettering in JLA and...alright. Maybe I'm full of shit, but looking back on it, they're really some spectacular stories, that for some reason I didn't realize until they were did and goon.

But. Yeah. I can't help but reccomend all the JLA stuff. Especially 1,000,000. Something about that buildup to its ginormous shock surprise climax just knocks me on the floor.

Benjamin.
 
 
Jamieon
17:04 / 27.08.01
Yeah, 1000000 was fantastic, wasn't it?

That whole superman as the divine solar man stuff....great. The "S" formed by the golden Yin and Yang.........

The baddies didn't stand a fucking chance.
 
 
Mr Wolfe
02:42 / 28.08.01
the annotated flex mentallo:
http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~craft/flex/intro.html
 
 
Ellis
19:17 / 28.08.01
I found some JLA issues in the back of one of my boxes, the Sandman issues- The Sandman teaming up with the JLA, how crap it have been, how brilliant it was.
As well as the two issue Green Arrow intro where he fights the Key Master which was cool only for Batman to something like "this isnt real, my body's heart doesnt beat like this, I know it too well".
And the issue which introduces Prometheus, a very cool villian.

And JLA Earth 2 was excellent, with Grant destroying any drama in the DC universe by saying that the good guys will always win.

Is Batman always so cool when written by Morrison?
 
 
Jamieon
05:37 / 29.08.01
Well, Grant's Batman was "cool" enough to provoke heavy resistance in the house of Dixon. Those old cunts want Batman to remain in the "dark" and "gritty" tradition of Miller's "Dark Knight...", whereas Grant seemed interested in turning him into some hardass James Bond style character (more in keeping with the Batman of the 70's). But, without a tortured bone in his body, the old boys couldn't dig on Morrison's Batman, and, I gather, gave him no end of shit whenever he tried to push a new idea through.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
10:30 / 29.08.01
Dixon hates Morrison for 'ruining' The Huntress when he used her in 1,000,000. But then Dixon smells of wee.
 
 
Ellis
12:38 / 29.08.01
quote:Originally posted by The Ungodly Lozt and Found Office:
Dixon hates Morrison for 'ruining' The Huntress when he used her in 1,000,000. But then Dixon smells of wee.


What did Morrison do to the Huntress then?
 
 
Jamieon
12:56 / 29.08.01
Made her sane. Allowed her to grow. Dixon and the boys wanted her permanently fucked up about rape and stuff.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
16:31 / 29.08.01
Dixon was building her up to a really good arc apparently. According to his interview in that comic writers on writing book. The same one in which Grant confidently predicted that we'd make contact with a fictional reality in '99.
 
 
A
02:07 / 31.08.01
I love Grant's run on JLA. I've read most of it, and it pretty much all kicks arse.

The New World Order trade paperback was the first thing of GM's I ever read and it got me hooked.

There are just so many great, crazy ideas. It's all so bright and colourful. It's exactly what superhero comics should be.

It also has probably my 2 favourite comic panels ever (one involves the flash and physics, the other shows the result of how much of a badarse batman is)

Sure, JLA doesn't have the depth of the Invisibles, or St Swithins Day or whatever, but it's not supposed to. For what it is, it's perfect.

adam
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
06:32 / 31.08.01
Morrison's Superman was just so fucking charismatic. And i loved the interaction between the Flash and Green Lantern, like brothers or something.
 
 
Ellis
12:02 / 31.08.01
If you want to get Flex: Here
 
 
The Mad Hatter
17:32 / 06.09.01
Yey for big brothers! I was bored last night and decided to rumage through the stuff my brother left at our parents house when he ran off to London for a more exciting life, and guess what treasure I found. Issues 1-7 (all of them?)of Revolver magazine which features Dare (1-7 obviously) ;Issue 1 of Shockwave with part ones of Animal Man, Hellblazer and Black Orchid; Revolver horror special with a story from Neil Gaiman and one from Garth Ennis;and the Revolver Romance special with another Garth Ennis story. Oh, and Judge Dredd issue 6 which I'm selling. Not to mention a fantastically kitsch 70's green lady painting.

I am the cat that got the cream, but understand that gloating ain't sexy so I'm shutting up now.
 
 
RiffRaff
17:39 / 06.09.01
I can't believe noone's mentioned Arkham Asylum! Come on!

His take on Two-Face was brilliant, and with artwork by Dave McKean you can't possibly lose.
 
 
RiffRaff
18:29 / 06.09.01
Someone mentioned Marvel Boy over in the Fantastic Four thread... is there going to be another series of it, or is that all we get? It ended with a hell of a cliffhanger...
 
 
A
01:25 / 07.09.01
yeah, there's supposed to be another series of Marvel Boy. I think that GM plans to do a six-issue Marvel Boy mini series every year or so for a while, but i could be wrong about that. I think I read somewhere that the next series will be "Marvel Boy takes on the Marvel universe".

adam
 
 
Jamieon
10:13 / 07.09.01
I think I heard that he'd finished work on the next Marvel Boy arc. So that's good.

But Loz, c'mon:

quote: Dixon was building her up to a really good arc apparently.

Yeah. I'm sure it would've been excellent.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
17:15 / 07.09.01
So you didn't notice my use of sarcasm then. What, I have to put everything in %%s for you?
 
 
ghadis
20:26 / 07.09.01
The Mad Hatter

'Issue 1 of Shockwave with part ones of Animal Man, Hellblazer and Black Orchid'

You can get the next 3 issues (thats all there was i think) on auction at ebay uk. £3.99 last time i looked.

Find it

here
 
 
The Mad Hatter
13:26 / 09.09.01
What a lovely rotund cheery cannine you are!

They will be mine, oh, yes they will be mine.
 
  

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