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Baz Auckland
06:22 / 13.04.02
A Thousand and one Nights, a recent translation of the Cario edition. That thing is pretty saucy, isn't it? I never realized, from reading the children's versions. But they're at each other like well-oiled rabbits. Constantly!

I read most of the first volume last fall. It was great, but they also seem to be beating each other with mulberry branches constantly...

for the prophet saith: Thou shalt beat her with a branch such as a camel drinks"
 
 
Cavatina
07:59 / 13.04.02
Now that I've some time to myself, I'm looking forward to finishing Matthew Sweet's Inventing the Victorians this weekend. I'm finding it witty, lively, very readable, with lots of fascinating, little-known stories and stuff about Victorian culture; so I'm enjoying it immensely, though I imagine that it will be up for some criticism from historians.

But to my mind, Sweet's underlying thesis is a strong one and deserves attention. He argues that commonly accepted depictions of the Victorians as Jingoists, bigots, sexually naive or sexually hypocritical puritans and sentimentalists, etc. - and hence as creatures deserving of our contempt - is but a mythical prop for our own sense of modernity.

And Kit-Cat: re your comment, "I also brought Howl's Moving Castle back from Southsea for Haus, and read it again in the meantime."

I've never heard of that book, but the title's intriguing - a sort of cross between The Hound of the Baskervilles and Macbeth - ?
 
 
Ariadne
09:42 / 13.04.02
Ulysses was too heavy to cary to work (that's my excuse) so I started the latest (I think) novel from Maurice Gee, Ellie and the shadow man. Four pages in and I remember how much I love him. He tells a a good, engaging story in a seemingly straightforward way, but there's just so much that's 'true' in how his characters are and live and see the world. The old gasp-of-recognition thing.
 
 
wembley can change in 28 days
01:14 / 14.04.02
Great Expectations - my first shot at Dickens, how behind am I?

SO behind ... but it won't disappoint. I was supposed to finish that one before my Fiction Before 1832 class in third year, but I ended up reading it on the 30-hour train ride from Toronto to my treeplanting job up north. I have a soft spot for Dickens' prose; once I got into it, I forgave him for writing such bloody long books.

Currently: Timothy Findley, Famous Last Words. When, oh WHEN am I going to know what's lodged in Mauberley's eye?!?
 
 
that
12:22 / 14.04.02
I'm past the middle of 'The Amber Spyglass', and I honestly thought the Philip Pulman trilogy was fairly mediocre until this book. 'The Subtle Knife' was better than 'Northern Lights', and 'The Amber Spyglass' is far better again, so much so that I would quite happily have read it as a stand-alone. I quite like some of the characters, but I don't find that Pullman's writing flows terribly well, and it seems to have taken him a while (two books, to be precise) to get warmed up. I've read far better 'children's books', and it's a bit beyond me why all of a sudden everyone is going nuts over Rowling and Pullman. They're both good, but not, like, supernaturally good, or anything, IMHO. The 'His Dark Materials' trilogy *will* make great films though...
 
 
Krister Kjellin
07:11 / 15.04.02
I'm actually a bit confused to why everybody seem to think Pullman's Amber Spyglass was so much better than the earlier books. This seems to be the general concensus, at least among the literature critics.

Didn't anyone like the general weirdness and all the fun ideas in the first book at all? I mean, come on, it has polar bears in armour made from metoric iron! And they talk!

I felt the third book a bit plodding and lacking in original ideas. Not to mention horribly anticlimactic:

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"I am Metatron, The Most Powerful Being in Creation. Come, meek humans! Headbutt me, and push me down a hole in the ground!"

And all you need to heal the universe is young, innocent love? That's very sweet... But didn't anyone else find it horribly, terribly, mindbogglingly annoyingly sweet (wow, that's a lot of adverbials)?

I recommended the series to my friends after the first book, was a bit more hesitant after the second, and stopped recommending it altogether after the third.

Hmm, come to think of it, the difference may be that we read it aloud to each others, wife and me. That may have made fast pace and witty one-liners more important to us than to the critics...

Edit: Thanks for the spoiler space, whoever did that. I obviously didn't think for myself. I sincerely apologize if I ruined the reading for someone.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
10:56 / 15.04.02
Cavatina - well, speaking as a historian (gets on high horse...) I was irked by Sweet's insistence that historians buy into the myth of the swaddled piano legs, which is utterly untrue in my experience. But apart from that I really enjoyed it - the material is, as you say, fascinating. I do think he might be overstating his case a little in the final chapters (I do not, for example, believe that the Contagious Diseases Act was the only way in which the Victorian establishment mistreated women, which he seems to say at a couple of points). But then the nineteenth century is not my period...

I do agree about his major thesis, though. I agree with the idea that the reaction by the Bloomsbury set et al has poisoned modern conceptions of the Victorians (and you can still see that even in The French Lieutenant's Woman - though maybe less so in Possession?). It was instructive to read it in tandem with E. F. Benson's As We Were, which is a nostalgic take on the later Victorian period. And certainly some of the sensation fiction I've read (e.g. Armadale) fits in with Sweet's theory and doesn't fit if you try and see it in a different Victorian context. Moreover, the idea of the Victorians as being hidebound I have always thought rubbish - one has only to look at the intellectual developments in the period to realise that it is a load of bunkum...

As to Howl's Moving Castle - I'm afraid it's not nearly as impressive as you might think! It's a YA fantasy book, by my favourite Diana Wynne Jones, and is basically a spoof on various fairytale conventions... DWJ is very good, though, and it is very entertaining. Howl is the wizard. He doesn't quite match up to her other enchanter, Chrestomanci, though (Chrestomanci has better dressing-gowns).
 
 
The Strobe
16:48 / 15.04.02
I read Matt Beaumont's E two days ago. Was bored waiting to get up and far too tired to get up. So I bombed through it. I feel dirty. It was crap. I mean, it was readable, and had the odd smile-raising line, but it was crap. And it shouldn't have been. Oh well. Stay away from that book - and I don't want to see the sequel.

If you want an interesting email based book, I strongly recommend Astro Teller's Exegesis. Which is a great book about artifical intelligence, amongst other things. Go and read it.

Now reading: Writers on Comics Scriptwriting. It's dull, but the Ennis/Ellis/Morrison/Miller/Gaiman interviews are quite interesting. The dull-american interviews show why American comics interest me quite so little. And the fatbeard-mugshots don't help either. Oh, and it PROVES that McFarlane's a cunt.
 
 
deja_vroom
17:06 / 15.04.02
Finished reading Foucault's Pendulum. Got disappointed half-way through... three characters lecturing to one another about templar crap...
That book is a never-happening. Still, it has beautiful parts.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
12:40 / 18.04.02
You know what, I am really struggling with Great Expectations... not, I hasten to add, because it is bad or becasue I dsilike it, but it is horrible hard to read Pip and not squirm with him as he neglects Joe and Biddy, spends too much money and drags Herbert with him... all too familiar...
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:42 / 18.04.02
Oh, Christ on a bike yes. I even had my very own 'Estella'...

Update: still in Plant's 0s +1s, which is going slowly as I am lazy with non-fiction, but recently had some very "oh my god" moments, very clever, inspiring stuff.

While I was in New York I also got, partly to compliment the above, The Difference Engine by William Gibson and Bruce Sterling - basically for those who don't know it's what they call a 'steampunk' novel, actually I think it may have been the first in the genre, and basically it's set in an alternative 1855 Victorian Britain, where Charles Babbage and Ada Byron did build their Engines, and the country is ruled by the Industrial Radical party... Anyway, it's an odd kettle of fish indeed, at times seemingly written in a parody of the 'great Victorian novel' style, and thus apparently somewhat directionless and slow (see: Mallory walks around London aimlessly for pages and pages), but it does build up a sense of creeping dread quite well after a while. However, I still can't shake the feeling that Sterling is essential Gibson's slightly shit little chubby friend, a suspicion not helped by the photo on the back of my copy's jacket, wherein Gibson looks like he's just stepped out of one of his own novels, and Sterling has the kind of leather jacket and mullet combo that was unforgiveable even in the 80s. My shallowness aside, at the end of the day their collaborations just don't excite me in the way that Gibson's solo work does - this book doesn't have the same snap, crackle and pop, or make me turn the pages with the same eagerness, as something like Neuromancer, or the best stories in Burning Chrome.

So, with this in mind, and because there is a copy of All Tomorrow's Parties sitting on my new flatmate WP's bookshelf, I went out and bought Gibson's Idoru the other day - it's the second in one of his typical sort-of trilogies that starts with Virtual Light. Where that one was all about movies, this one's more about rock'n'roll/pop stardom, and I'll be disappointed if ATP isn't about clubbing...

It's funny that at this point Gibson seems to have decided that he's going to be quite shameless about sticking to a certain formula of plot and characters - I think I need a whole thread to outline this, actually - the loser with a talent, the tough and professional guy/girl(s), the naive ingenue on some kind of journey, the shadowy agents of even shadowier organisations pursuing them, the supercool agents of a marginalised underground subculture helping them out, and everyone moving together to a collision that is almost always anticlimactic... But fuck it, he's just so good at it now, and his prose in this one is as glorious as it's ever been. I'm convinced that as he progresses as a writer, he's moving closer and closer to just writing contemporary fiction - something that stops registering as 'sci-fi' or even 'cyberpunk' because the world in which it is set is hard to identify as anything other than our own. There are huge sections of this book that read like that anyway... You know, if William Gibson wrote a travel book, which was just about him wandering aimlessly round various cities, sitting in airports, people watching, I'd buy it like a shot. Love love love WG.

(Oh, and in New York, because it was very cheap, I also got Will Self's Great Apes, which a preliminary examination of suggests is just shit, like a clever-clever Martin Amis style short story - "ah! do you see? monkeys as humans and humans and monkeys? do you see? do you?" - stretched with painful effort to novel size. Bah.)
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
14:33 / 18.04.02
Finally finished Ancient Evenings in which Norman Mailer's lack of a decent editor catches up with him. Good research, far too many "look! I'm writing about anal sex! Look! Look! Aren't I daring?" overtones that don't really ring true, and a story that just about carries the length of the book. Hm. Better than that makes it out to be, but not as good as it appeared at the outset. As I say, excellent research, even if he does just turn the story into a shagfest at varying points.

Now, however, I'm onto the Pullman trilogy. About a third of the way through Northern Lights, and I, predictably, want a daemon.
 
 
that
14:39 / 18.04.02
Yeah, I want a daemon too. But there may be hope...

I'm now reading 'Weaveworld' by Clive Barker, because it's one of sfd's favourites. And I've got 'The Demolished Man' because everyone made it sound so appealing on the soft SF thread.
 
 
Saveloy
16:27 / 18.04.02
Flyboy:

"I also got Will Self's Great Apes, which a preliminary examination of suggests is just shit, like a clever-clever Martin Amis style short story"

See if you can get past the Soho bar scene and the description of the toilets where he starts going on about whales, cos I couldn't. Like wading through morasses.
 
 
Ellis says:
18:48 / 18.04.02
Just finished:
K-PAX, Gene Brewer, (fantastic!)
K-PAX 2: On a Beam of Light, Gene Brewer (just as good as the first book, can't wait for the third part)
A pointless book on Derrida, Chris Johnson, (bored the hell out of me)
The Minority Report, Phillip K Dick, (a nice little story, short enough to keep me interested, long enough to distract me on the bus home)


Studying:
Bacchae, Euripides, (absolutely brilliant, must go and see this when it is on at the National Theatre)
Ethics, Aristotle, (feh)
De Anima, Aristotle (double feh)

Currently reading:
Planning to start Catcher in The Rye (Salinger) tomorrow. Also have copies of Simulcra and Simulation (Bauldrillard), The Philosophy of the Boudoir (Sade) and A Text on Game Theory (Ken Binmore)- which is my new interest.

Also recenty bought the first three Akira books.
 
 
Tezcatlipoca
18:59 / 18.04.02
Just finished 'The Lost Boy', the second of David Pelzer's incredible triology about the horrific torture exacted upon him by his mother when he was a child. Been a long time since I read a book which nearly brought me to tears....
 
 
Mourne Kransky
19:32 / 18.04.02
I am doffing my cap to you, Rothkoid. May dig it out (the Mailer) and see if I can struggle on till the end.
 
 
The Dadaist
03:31 / 19.04.02
I finished PKD´s VALIS.
Now I want to read Ubik.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
09:53 / 23.04.02
Currently burning through Pullman's The Amber Spyglass. Practically inhaled The Subtle Knife on Sunday... this stuff is as good as the raves said it'd be. I am impressed.
 
 
Cavatina
11:53 / 23.04.02
Studying:
Bacchae, Euripides, (absolutely brilliant, must go and see this when it is on at the National Theatre)
- Ellis

Ooooh. I loved studying that play, too - all those debates about Dionysianism. It'd be a good one for the book club.

Ellis, have you read Donna Tartt's The Secret History (about a clique of Classics students whose cult-like excesses lead to a murder)?
 
 
The Strobe
13:16 / 23.04.02
Tried to start Crying of Lot 49, but just found the writing style wasn't quite suited to the casual outdoor reading I do so much of in the summer.

So have started The Wind-up Bird Chronicle; loved the short story, so now am looking forward to the novel.

In amongst my revision, which seems to involve reading 800 years of English Literature. Again.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:58 / 23.04.02
Finished "The Birthday Letters", which confirms my opinion that Sylvia Plath was possessed of improbable patience and reserves of personal strength for lasting as long as she did, and her only mistake was killing herself rather than him. Just astonishingly bad. Before that, a collection of poems by women edited by Carole Anne Duffy.

Currenly bouncing between "Self-portrait in a convex mirror", by John Ashberry, and "The Unicorn" by Iris Murdoch, which would be much better if it were called the Unicron.
 
 
wembley can change in 28 days
17:09 / 23.04.02
Because I felt my life was too happy, I started Patrick McCabe's Mondo Desperado. It's sort of entertaining, I guess. Mostly I find it a bit bland, with the odd bit that's so outrageously hilarious that it keeps me reading the whole thing. Not to mention the fact that every time I finish a story, I feel like I should be going home and putting my head in the oven. Mondo Depressing.
 
 
Trijhaos
21:38 / 23.04.02
I do believe I've spread myself a bit thin with the amount of reading I'm doing currently.

A Clash of Kings by George R.R. Martin - The second book in yet another multi-book epic fantasy quest thing. Not too bad if you like epic fantasy, but the changing viewpoints every chapter is really annoying.

Modern Magick by Don Kraig - "Ceremonial magick for dummies" A good book so far. He has a few silly ideas about white and black magick, but its all good.

Way of the Shaman by Michael Harner - book on shamanism. Don't know how good it is since I don't have much experience with the whole shaman thing.

Sarah McLachlan: Building A Mystery by Judith Fitzgerald. No opinion either way, just started it and have only gotten through the first chapter. The writing style is nice though.

Ulysses by James Joyce - Good god, this book is confusing. Sometimes while reading it, it feels like my head is going to explode.
 
 
Baz Auckland
21:42 / 23.04.02
Focault's Pendulum (see relevant thread)

and, since Stoatie has copies of these books, I'm starting on the side:

Robert Anton Wilson - Cosmic Trigger and

Mal Jr. - Principia Discordia. I have to read these as I've never actually seen a physical copy of them, but heard vague rumours of their existence.
 
 
Tom Coates
00:11 / 24.04.02
Just finished The Northern Lights (at best mediocre but relatively entertaining) and Emergence (pretty mediocre but with ideas that are good to think with). Am half-way through The Tipping Point, but have taken a break to finish the Pullman trilogy (MUCH keener on The Subtle Knife, and looking forward to The Amber Spyglass).
 
 
ephemerat
09:29 / 25.04.02
Just finished The Human Stain by Philip Roth which was worth it for the continual barely surpressed vitriol alone. Definitely one of his better books.

Also English Passengers by Matthew Kneale (won the Whitbread 2000) which starts as a fairly amusing 19th century-Manx-smugglers-get-one-over-on-the-stuffy-English-with-constant-humorous-setbacks but gardually transmutes into a quite shocking and moving look at the slaughter and dehumanisation of the native Tasmanian population.

Just finishing The Shape of Snakes by Minette Walters which is basically a contemporary (racially motivated) crime thriller with extra literary frills. Unless the end is particularly good I'm afraid I'll have to consign it to the 'fun but entirely non-essential' category.

Which should strike The Fear of God into the author.

Obviously.
 
 
The Natural Way
09:41 / 25.04.02
Breakfast at Tiffanys. I like. Is good.
 
 
alas
14:44 / 27.04.02
always doing too many at once--just finished A Room With A View. There's a deep dark corner of my desperately trying to be hip heart that is incurably in love with EM Forster. So I listen to him in the car. And now Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited, to complete my Merchant/Ivory England in soft-focus book tour.
Also have been reading Ruth Rendall mysteries. And the occasional Dorothy Sayers.

The boy side of my brain is enjoying WHITE NOISE by Don Delillo tremendously.

I'm teaching "Bartleby, The Scrivener," trying to convince my students it's the greatest short story ever. We just finished three stories by Poe--"The Black Cat" "Fall of the House of Usher" and "The Man in the Crowd," along with Hawthorne, "Rappaccini's Daughter" and "The Birth-Mark" and "The Black Veil" and "Mrs. Hutchinson."

I work with Toni Morrison's PLAYING IN THE DARK, with these texts, make my students read parts where she argues "Nothing highlighted freedom--if it did not in fact create it--like slavery." And that Poe was the most important writer in the creation of American Africanism. And that American Romance is about the terror of human freedom.

Fun fun fun.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
20:47 / 28.04.02
After finishing the marvellously satisfying Pullman trilogy, I spent yesterday whipping through Ellroy's The Black Dahlia, which was the first of his books I'd read. Easy read, just like Chandler, but pretty well-done. Now, before Ulysses takes hold, I'm reading The Bear Comes Home by Rafi Zabor. And it's fucking awesome. Only five pages in, and the main character - a bear that plays sax and quotes Shakespeare! - is just perfect. I like.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
08:49 / 29.04.02
Regretfully, I've laid the bear-filled book aside. Only after reading that stacks of people have already started reading Ulysses, though. So, I'm working my way into Joyce's tome now.
 
 
rizla mission
09:25 / 29.04.02
I'm making my way through extracts from Bill Burroughs Nova Express. Absolutely top stuff, surely the best of his cut-up period, love the concepts behind it..
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
11:41 / 29.04.02
I've now (realising time is running out for the start of the "Ulysses" thread) ditched pretty much everything for the time being, except the Joyce and...
...ummm...
ahhh...
okay. here goes.
"Fucked by Rock- The Unspeakable Confessions of Zodiac Mindwarp".
There.
I said it.
 
 
ill tonic
02:29 / 30.04.02
Hell's Angels by HST
Crawling At Night by Nani Power (excellent writing)
The Black Album by that guy who wrote London Kills Me
and several tomes on film production with an emphisis on financing/producing/selling etc.
 
 
Persephone
04:09 / 30.04.02
sigh

Am trying to use Ulysses to drive away Insomnia, but they seem to be getting along pretty well together...
 
  

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