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2008: What are you currently reading?

 
  

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Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
16:37 / 03.01.08
New thread for a new year; place to pontificate with wild abandon over current literary journeys and the thoughts they inspire, when you're not ready to start a proper thread. No lists, though, darlings -- we expect content!

Having just finished a shwack of Cory Doctorow novels this past week, I'm delving into 2008 with a Doc Savage paperback -- "The Midas Man!" I've never read one before but it's creepy and action-packed and Littlejohn the archaeologist amuses me. It's interesting to read an adventure hero without the trappings of superhero secret identity sheningans. The prose, well, it's old school pulp prose and it's very workmanlike in its function, but there are some genuinely amusing passages and I might try to pick up some stylistic tics from it to play with; it isn't afraid of an abstract adjective or a sudden exclamation point.
 
 
Mistoffelees
17:35 / 03.01.08
At the time, I´m reading David Foster Wallace´s A supposedly fun thing I´ll never do again". It´s a collection of essays. I´ve read most by now. The second essay was very boring; as it was about late 80s US tv and how it ensnared the people who watched it.

Two essays were fun to read: one about a luxury sea cruise, where DFW gives a very detailed description how he didn´t fit in at all with the rest of the travelers and how the luxury became some oppressive routine.

The other fun essay was about a visit to the set of Lost Highway called David Lynch keeps his head and during his two day visit the author not even once talks to Lynch, but watches him pee and smoke instead. That essay was so interesting, that I´ve since watched Blue Velvet and Lost Highway and want to rent/buy Inland Empire.
 
 
Analogues On
19:05 / 03.01.08
Just started a Timothy Leary biography, I Have America Surrounded by John Higgs.

I’m only at few chapters in, and while the story so far is essentially Everything You Already Knew, it opens rather well with the near-50-year-old Leary’s daring escape from jail and subsequent exile, and the pace remains fairly tight thereafter - travelling back to his days in Harvard and his first encounters with the people and substances that would change both his and the world’s perceptions.

However it’s the supporting cast list (a druggy who’s who including Wasson, Hoffman, Huxley, Kerouac and Ginsberg) that has got me turning the pages most, especially when the writing turns a bit journalistic. And this is the one reservation I have so far - despite the potential of the biographical material here (and the rather fabulous title of the book itself), the author seems to be concentrating more on describing Leary’s life events as an adventure story, rather than exposing the mind of the man himself.

Saying that, it's a HELL of a life story and I’m not even half-way through. So while there have been no real revelations (so far), it’s a solid read.
 
 
semioticrobotic
19:26 / 03.01.08
I'm currently about a third of the way through Michael Chabon's The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, which I'm ashamed to say I've had on my shelf for more than six years and finally -- just this winter -- have had the chance to open.

It started off a bit slow for my liking, actually, but now that some of the more significant character development is out of the way, I'm really liking it. Apart from the fact that this Pulitzer winner deals with writers working in the Golden Age of comics (which sets my nerd receptors a-glowin') Chabon's dialogue is probably the most alluring aspect of the novel. He'll zoom in and out, letting a character speak, cutting in with thick description or historical data, then quickly returning to an interlocutor's (often one-word) response now loaded with implication based on the preceding prose. It works well enough to make me laugh out loud at certain moments.

A Big Revelation occurred just as I was putting the book down last evening, so I'm anxious to pick it up again tonight.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:07 / 03.01.08
Just started (again) David Zindell's The Lightstone. I don't really read a lot of fantasy, but his Neverness (and the following Requiem For Homo Sapiens) are up there with the greatest SF I've ever read, so I figure I owe him big. Big enough to read his fantasy epic. So far quite fun, actually. But I'm missing the obsessive mathematics-related palaver of his SF. That said, I'm also loving (as I did with his SF) the idea of doing a big, epic battle-related story with a pacifist protagonist.
 
 
Dusto
13:49 / 04.01.08
I'm reading Shadow & Claw, by Gene Wolfe. Sort of continuing the fantasy kick I got on towards the end of last year. I hadn't read much fantasy beyond Tolkien until about last September, now I think I'm pretty well read up on the "classics" of the genre. Anyway, that said, this isn't really fantasy. Strictly speaking, it's sci-fi. But it's set so far in the future that modern history and technology are nothing more than legend. And it's sort of a faux-medieval world, so it seems more like fantasy. In any case, I'm enjoying it. It deals in a lot of themes that I'm interested in at the moment, it's well-written, the narrator, narrative, world, and secondary characters are all compelling. What's not to like? Especially the narrator, a journeyman in the Torturer's Guild who claims to have perfect recall (though this is questionable), and who by his own admission might be insane. It actually reminds me of a lot of the 18th and early 19th Century stuff I've read. A little like Tom Jones mixed with Melmoth the Wanderer. In the future.
 
 
Rigettle
16:08 / 04.01.08
Long time me no here.

Just read Gibson's new one, Spook Country.

http://www.williamgibsonbooks.com/books/spook.asp

Tight ,tense, fun thriller. Not cyberpunk as such but a bit of a genre bender in some ways. Some links to the previous novel, Pattern Recognition.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
18:49 / 04.01.08
Rigettle- there's a thread on Spook Country. Please come bump it and enjoy. God knows, Books needs more activity!
 
 
astrojax69
20:14 / 05.01.08
just finished jon franzen's autobio-account of his yoof in essay form, 'the discomfort zone', which was actually a pretty absorbing read. i loved his 'corrections' and almost as much, 'twenty seventh city', so was happy to find him consistent.

am about to gorge on the hitchhikers complete radio scripts, then it will be a year with lots of reading for research as i plunge into a masters in creative writing - prob translate to a doctorate [so you'll all have to address me as dr astro soon] - that will see me with pynchon, joyce nietzsche and bundles of stuff i'm yet to determine...

happy reading!
 
 
quinine92001
03:37 / 06.01.08
Dune Messiah by Frank Herbert-Finished the second book of the series and found it quite enlightening.

Book of Thoth-need to know stuff about Tarot

Dune Encyclopedia-just for fun and extra special knowledge

My Friend Leonard James Frey- Actually shaping up to be a great book actually.
Black Dossier-need I say more?


in the queue-Spook Country maybe Children of Dune and the Butlerian Jihad
 
 
COG
16:58 / 06.01.08
As well as Gravity's Rainbow (which has it's own thread) I am also slowly chugging through El Árbol de la Ciencia by Pío Baroja. I'm reading it in Spanish to improve my grammar and thank God I'm not reading it for the plot as it's a bit slow to say the least. Written in 1911. The story of a medical student who wonders about the meaning of life a bit and moans a lot about various people that he meets.

The only interesting bit so far is a short stay in Valencia, which was only interesting to me as I lived there for a few months. So, half way through, and his nephew has just died and he wants to become a village doctor to do some good in this corrupt world. Zzzzzzz
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
17:46 / 06.01.08
Last night, the Accomplice gave me a copy of Chronicle of a Death Foretold, by Marquez, and I'm already zooming through it. Jaunty, for a story of petty revenge and murder. I'm very much a sucker for stories narrated from the present, they feel oddly solid and airy at the same time.
 
 
Aha! I am Klarion
02:47 / 13.01.08
Norman Mailer's "the Castle in the Forest"...Hitler mustaches for all!
 
 
astrojax69
05:37 / 13.01.08
am about halfway through steven hall's 'the raw shark tests' which is a bit of an odd but compelling psycho-thriller sci-fi kind of thing that my masters supervisor recommended. anyone else know this book/writer?


and i bought mark haddon's next book after 'curious incident', called 'a spot of bother', whose first dozen or so pages promise a well-paced easy read but not as engrossing as the dog... but i am to be swayed... demanding lover also bought me a wonderful 2nd anniversary gift of kerouac's original scroll with some intro essays that i'm keen to gorge on too.
 
 
Mark Parsons
23:45 / 13.01.08
"Secret Files of the Diogenes Club" by Kim Newman. great pulp fun and a follow up the "The Man from the Diogenes Glub" colelction. Check out Monkeybrain books for lots o'coolity.

Intentions: "British Summer" by Paul Cornell, "Demonomania" by John Crowley; finish "River of Gods" , dare to read "Blood Meridian" by Cormac McCarthy.
 
 
The Idol Rich
08:45 / 14.01.08
I just started reading Giles Goat-Boy by John Barth. It's one of those where it purports to be a real document; the first chapter takes the form of various members of a publishing company arguing about whether or not to publish it and the second chapter takes the form of the professor who supposedly submitted the book explaining how he came to possesss it. After that you're into the story proper which comes from the perspective of a man (or boy I guess) who has been brought up as a goat in some stables attached to a university - which is effectively the world. He realises he's not actually a goat and sets out into the university intent on fulfiling what he sees as his heroic destiny. So far, so good, pretty funny and loads of good ideas. Definitely very sixties though.
 
 
Tsuga
09:37 / 14.01.08
Giles Goat-Boy was really the only Barth I ever read that I just didn't enjoy that much. While his writing is always extremely good, I just couldn't get into that story, or maybe I just couldn't get it. I think that The Sot-Weed Factor may be my favorite of his, although it took a while to settle into that one. I'd like to hear what you think when you're finished with Giles.
 
 
The Idol Rich
09:59 / 14.01.08
Well this is my first Barth but everyone seems to praise Sot-Weed and I may have been slighlty contrary in my choice of this book.
I'll definitely let you know what I think when I finish. So far my only criticism would be that it feels slightly dated in a way that I'm not quite certain I can expand on without a bit more thought...
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
15:45 / 14.01.08
Mostly finished up, but still rereading bits from Paul Di Filippo's Lost Pages, which I enjoyed quite a lot even if I wouldn't say it was the greatest thing ever. I find his prose is a little uneven, but I liked the idea of the parallel universe(s) and people's different courses. Philip K. Dick married to Linda Ronstadt and neither of them being successful. The Beats as weird planetary guardians, gonzo terrorists preventing some Lovecraftian future. Alice "James Tiptree" Sheldon, Alfred Bester, and Theodore Sturgeon being merged into a single, Rebis-like creature...

The Kafka-as-vigilante story seemed like a better idea than a story, which I think I can safely say about the Anne Frank story as well. The Beats fighting nuclear power was the best, or the one I clicked with the most.
 
 
Dusto
16:43 / 14.01.08
The Sot-Weed Factor is the only Barth that I really love. The first two aren't quite there, and after that he sort of falls further and further into his own navel. Giles Goat Boy is okay, but the allegory is very straightforward in a way that I don't like.

Di Filippo is certainly not the best author ever, but I thought Lost Pages was pretty fun.
 
 
JaredSeth
18:48 / 14.01.08
Slowing down a little after reading 60 books last year (thanks to my new, much longer commute!).

I've started 2008 with China Miéville's Perdido Street Station (finished) and Umberto Eco's Baudolino (in progress). PSS left me wanting more if only because it was incredibly imaginative, and I understand there's another book set in the same world?

Oh and next up, The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay by Michael Chabon (which I've been assured will have me so engrossed I'll be missing my subway stop) and Tower of Glass by Robert Silverberg.
 
 
GogMickGog
10:39 / 17.01.08
First post of the year! A'right! Just sped my way through Christopher Hart's The Harvest. I picked it up in the Soho Bookstore over in Clerkenwell, along with a pile of other impulse buys - because I'm weak like that.

It's a rural coming-of-age tale with echoes of Hardy, Blake and The Powys brothers. Mental illness, poetry and the decline of the countryside are all touchstones, whilst a constant slow drip tension leads to a suckerpunch of an ending. Hart seems to have switched trades and now pens historical fiction as William Dampier. Having read this, I would welcome him back to lit. fic.

Also read Diane Athill's most recent memoir, a dignified look at old age and waning urges (at this point I realise how un-Barbelith my tastes must seem) as well as Necropolis by Catherine Arnold, which is all about hte burial of the dead in London. Marvellous stuff.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
13:12 / 17.01.08
JaredSeth: There're two more actually, The Scar and Iron Council. I've read all three and enjoyed them immensely.
 
 
JaredSeth
17:54 / 17.01.08
Festivus, just curious. Were either of the other two as good as Perdido? Or did I just finish the best of the 3?
 
 
Mistoffelees
21:39 / 17.01.08
I haven´t read Iron Council. I liked PSS much better than Scar. PSS has all these interesting people and locations, and Scar concentrates a lot on the main protagonist. And Scar is so grim. There´s torture and lots of deaths and cruelty. And it´s mostly at sea. Somehow, PSS was more immersive and full of these fresh ideas than Scar.
 
 
The Idol Rich
08:32 / 18.01.08
I'd like to hear what you think when you're finished with Giles.

OK, not quite finished but will today if I get a few minutes reading time. Although it had good parts and some good jokes I think that ultimately I'm not that impressed.
I'd completely agree with what Dusto said

Giles Goat Boy is okay, but the allegory is very straightforward in a way that I don't like

I'd read (or possibly misread) that in this book a university was a metaphor for the world but it's not really that, it's just that the university is the world in the book's reality. There's no metaphor there.
I also got quite bored by all this musing on selfishness and flunkedness/passedness etc I know it's supposed to be satire but I just got sick of reading it.
I don't want to be too negative though, I really enjoyed some bits such as the play version of Oedipus; there was really something to admire in the way that he combined the original story, modern speech, the conventions of his universe (ie proph prof for prophet, dean for king etc) and the rhyme-scheme and made it all fit together in a way that when the ending came I still found it affecting and, yes, tragic.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
08:55 / 18.01.08
JaredSeth & Mist: There's a lengthy C Mieville thread here that we could move any such discussion to.
 
 
woodenpidgeon
23:59 / 23.01.08
Just finished The Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut. I have read some Vonnegut before (Slaughterhouse Five was really an eye opening book when I was 13), but I really wasn't prepared for what a simple and powerful novel this is. It's early enough in his career to lack some of the schtickiness of his style, and iced with more layers of deity than a Mexican birthday cake. Worth reading alone for the many public conversations of reverence and professed 20 year old tears from what an affecting and memorial book this was, (by people working at sandwich shops and bars). Really lovely.

Currently started The Third Policemen by O'Brien because of comments here. (Probably going to read it concurrently with You Can't Win by Jack Black, A Confederacy of Dunces , or some long desired Le Carre.
 
 
Tsuga
00:10 / 24.01.08
Confederacy of Dunces is a brilliant book. Tell us what you think when you're done.
I wish that Sirens of Titan was the foundation of Scientology instead of L-Ron's bullshit. They need a chrono-synclastic infundibulum pretty badly.
 
 
The Idol Rich
08:06 / 24.01.08
Currently started The Third Policemen by O'Brien because of comments here. (Probably going to read it concurrently with You Can't Win by Jack Black, A Confederacy of Dunces , or some long desired Le Carre.

The Third Policeman is great fun I think but for some reason I'm the only person in the world who didn't love A Confederacy of Dunces - I mean, I thought it was ok and everything but I just don't understand what all the fuss is about. In the past I've been called joyless for expressing that opinion so what do I know?

I've started reading The Manuscript Found In Saragossa which (for those who don't know) is kind of like a European take on 1001 Arabian Nights written about 1800 by a Polish nobleman called Potocki. I'm about half way through I guess and it's great fun; loads of stories within stories within stories, mainly told by travellers to a mysterious deserted inn who have similar experiences when they sleep there involving being seduced by two people they vaguely know and then waking up beneath a gallows with a corpse on either side of them.
For some reason I thought it was going to be a difficult read but it's not in any way (except for the interweaving of the stories I suppose).
 
 
Mistoffelees
08:07 / 24.01.08
In the last weeks, I´ve read Iain M. Banks for the first time, his SF novels Consider Phlebas and Feersum Endjinn, which were both a lot of fun with fleshed out SF worlds. The characters, especially in CP, didn´t really come to life and so it was no big loss when they died (sometimes a couple of times in a row). And FE had a character who wrote his part in phonetics, which was hard to read at first, but soon had its own charm (cyan for example was sighing). Banks is a wonderrful SF discovery and I´m looking forward to reading more.

I also read Scott Smith´s The Ruins, after some people on another forum praised the book´s horror qualities. It´s not scary at all, just bleak and dull. A couple of young people are trapped on a hill covered in vine and have to struggle to survive, facing all kinds of threats against their physical and mental health. Most of the characters behave in such an unresponsible way that it´s hard to feel sympathy, and the outcome is clear enough pretty soon and it´s only a question what stupid mistake they´ll do next. For example, one character lets himself fall down ca ten feet on top of broken glass for no good reason.

Yesterday, I´ve started Ian McEwan´s Atonement. An aspiring writer on another forum recommended to read it before/instead of seeing the movie. And I´ve enjoyed two of his other recommendations (Cloud Atlas, The Book of The New Sun), so I gave it a try. After seventy pages, nothing much has happened so far, it´s still in the introducing characters stage. People are rehearsing for a play, swimming in the pool, drinking punch and eating chocolate, but it´s still interesting to read, the characters are much more intriguing and alive than in CP, FE or TR. Where TR had me thinking "just get on with it", this novel has me enjoying the slow pace. There are two pages of the thoughts of a thirteen year old girl, and they are more fun to read than all the thoughts of the four main TR characters combined.
 
 
The Idol Rich
09:38 / 24.01.08
Yesterday, I´ve started Ian McEwan´s Atonement. An aspiring writer on another forum recommended to read it before/instead of seeing the movie.

I read an (I thought) interesting article in the Guardian (I think it was) saying that McEwan was an author who had been spoiled by the lack of an outlet for short stories in this country. The argument was that a lot of his novels are basically short stories (usually involving an initial event that hangs over the whole novel) that have been stretched out to the length of a novel because there is no way that you can rise to fame and success as a short story writer.
I've not read Atonement but from your description (of a slow build up) it sounds as though that might not be the case here - I certainly think it was a theory that holds water in relation to the books of his that I have read which were more like novellas than novels.
I would be interested to know what you think.
 
 
Katherine
13:21 / 24.01.08
I have only read his latest paperback On Chesil Beach, which I guess you could apply the same argument to. To begin with it does feel like it is a short story which has been drawn out to make a small novel but I actually found that I enjoyed that in the end. Part of the charm and impact of On Chesil Beach is the fact you are shown in depth what has got them to this point in time and why they couldn't back down or see each other's viewpoints.

Although I did feel that the ending was a bit at odds with the rest of it, rushed compared the rest.
 
 
Mistoffelees
15:54 / 24.01.08
The argument was that a lot of his novels are basically short stories (usually involving an initial event that hangs over the whole novel) that have been stretched out to the length of a novel because there is no way that you can rise to fame and success as a short story writer.
I've not read Atonement but from your description (of a slow build up) it sounds as though that might not be the case here


I´m on page 106 of 372 and it´s still build up; people can´t decide what to wear, discuss what´s to be for dinner and help children find missing socks and clean up their room. But it looks as if that initial life changing event will happen any moment now.

So far, I´ve only read The Cement Garden, and that was a bit short for a novel.
 
 
The Idol Rich
16:23 / 24.01.08
To begin with it does feel like it is a short story which has been drawn out to make a small novel but I actually found that I enjoyed that in the end.

I guess he would say that that's his style, contrary to what the article said he's not forced into it, he chose it. I suppose the question is whether the novels would be more artistically successful as short stories but it's probably ultimately pointless to speculate.

So far, I´ve only read The Cement Garden, and that was a bit short for a novel.

That's what I was thinking of, and Enduring Love as well in fact. In each case there is certainly an event (family disappear, balloon accident) that happens at the start and hangs over the rest of the novel(la).
 
  

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