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`permanent martial law in usa` they`d do it all right,, make no mistake...

I keep hearing this rumor from various sources, some I might even consider halfway reliable. but I haven't seen anything happening. why are you so sure it will happen? do you have some previous experience of the US declaring permanent martial law?

why not turn that anger towards those that deserve it,,, the banks , the military and the fools that vote them in

1) I'm not really angry, just hoping for better dialogue. unless maybe I'm in denial I guess.

2) I am very disappointed in many of those agencies. my understanding of the financial situation is far too vague for me to feel justified doing something violent or permanent about it.

your elected representatives are part of the problem not the solution,, your naivety is breathtaking

I didn't say I personally believed they were going to fix it. I was saying that probably the average citizen is hoping they will fix it, since that's their job.

mostly I just thought your metaphor was poor. you seem to think that "we" would all go into karate mode and beat the shit out of any armed mugger who was attacking us. I think that's pretty rare. most people just want to not get hurt and hope someone else will take care of them. ...kind of like with the financial crisis. or so I believe, I'm not everyone so I guess this could be total bullshit.

since you probably missed the only response in this thread, please explain this

actually, that wasn't meant to be a complaint that you are dim so much as wondering why only one comment was made about your use of "slattern", and that kind of a sideways subtle comment. we usually try to come down on that kind of thing around here.

let me be more clear: my knowledge of Condolezza Rice is also very vague, but I have the impression that she's not used her current position to do the world any good. call her on that, complain about her being an underhanded politician or whatever, but don't attack her in a special way just because she's a woman.

My Mom Thinks i should stay at home and hide under the covers.

I think we should do more about this than we are. I'm not sure what "more" is but I personally believe that rioting and other forms of violence should be a last resort, if ever used at all. I think I appreciate a lot of your sentiment, I just want to encourage some thought about the details.

.americans have given away their human rights without even whimper

like I said, there's been rather a lot of noise made about this. every newspaper is full of angry people complaining about the white house, wall street, and congress. there's a guy outside on the street right now trying to drum up support to get big wig executives jailed for this mess rather than bailed out, though I doubt he'll have much luck. there were enough people complaining that congress at least felt compelled to pretend to care, turning down the first version of the bill.

in the end I think it didn't matter much, they just let the crisis get a little worse, reassured a few voters that they want to protect people more than they want to protect business, and then went ahead and passed a worse version of the bill that was too large for anyone to even read. but I think it's obvious that somebody was listening to a lot of people grumbling.

so what might actually change? I think it's undermining the republican party and helping Obama win at the polls, which is better than nothing. a lot of people are talking about repealing deregulation actions and giving wall street more oversight. I've read more than one news article about hard-core conservatives beginning to question the idea of the pure free market.

it's possible that a lot of things are going to change - it just might be a long, gradual process, rather than a bloody firey revolution, and it will probably end up with a lot of compromises rather than a total swing to some utopian socialist america.

that's the guess of a fairly ignorant guy, me. suggestions on how to make things better?