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All Acting Regiment
16:07 / 02.06.08
It's worth remembering, I think, that those uniforms are anachronistic (also smart, quite well-tailored, and camp) and don't reflect the way that actual soldiers dress in the field. They certainly can be read as a denouement. Whereas the camo shorts and caps people wear today look like actual combat gear, more of a direct homage - and perhaps a sort of blurring of the lines between leisure/pleasure/outdoors wear and millitary gear.

Of course the same thing happens in other places than in fashions which I don't wear - various videogames, films, and so on that I've enjoyed are also part of a system that blurs the lines between war and entertainment. And then, of course:



The kind of thing M.I.A. does seems to show that you can make a millitary reference say anything you like.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
17:02 / 02.06.08
They certainly can be read as a denouement.

Absolutely. The climax of fashion, perhaps.

Not at all convinced by this idea that casual military-esque clothing makes people look more convincingly military than it did in the good old days. Anyway, the point I was making was not to draw some distinction between 'good' subversive camp military chic and 'bad' conservative macho military chic - but rather that most people are not intending to make a comment one way or another.
 
 
grant
19:41 / 02.06.08
I used to wear a *lot* of Army surplus because it was cheap, rugged and worn enough to be comfortable.

I've still got a few jackets in the backs of closets.

It's probably not the same thing, though, since it takes the regimented, linear look out of the military stuff and puts the functional here-this'll-work-with-some-tape-and-patches back in.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
19:53 / 02.06.08
I was more thinking about camo boxers/thongs, sneakers, caps, laptop bags, etc... If it's wearable as clothes or accessory, it's available in camo. I shit you not, I saw large wide camo earrings on a girl at a concert.
The Military-Chic is a different thing altogether, I understand subverting a uniform as fashion, but it bugs me that camo (Grey tone "Desert Freedom" or "classic Jungle") has become so trendy. Again, I wonder: Is it because of demand or has it been chosen as the hot new "colour" by designers? (Camo is the new black, y'all...)
 
 
Anna de Logardiere
23:27 / 02.06.08
I think it's already been pointed out that military clothing, including camouflage trousers and jackets float in and out of fashion periodically and have done since the 1960s. In the late 90s the girl band All Saints wore combat trousers every time they did an interview, they were selling trousers based on those types of patterns in high street shops like Warehouse.

Is it because of demand or has it been chosen as the hot new "colour" by designers?

I haven't seen this though. Can you tell me where you've seen this style of clothing? I don't even know which country you're in so I can't actually tell you whether I think there's some kind of theme going on but I follow fashion quite closely and I'm certain that there's nothing in the women's catwalk lines that nod to military style. Well, apart from this:



and this.
 
 
Anna de Logardiere
23:31 / 02.06.08
Incidentally I think the Michael Kors outfit under that link sucks and is a complete stretch to fit into the category, I must remember to blog about the habitual nonsense that "women's" magazines pump out in order to put clothing into a convenient category. Double breasted does not immediately equate with military, even if shiny buttons are involved.
 
 
pony
03:01 / 03.06.08
I haven't seen this though. Can you tell me where you've seen this style of clothing?

It's definitely not the most cutting edge look, but I think that if you look back over the past 15 years or so of US "streetwear" you'll see camo surfacing again and again, often with ambiguous intent. I've always assumed that this side of the camo equation has a lot of roots in the military aesthetics of some late 80's hip-hop (Public Enemy, BDP, etc.), but became a bit more of a neutral visual motif to riff on for a lot of designers.
 
 
Anna de Logardiere
11:37 / 03.06.08
Well all kinds of questions arise from that, it would be interesting to do a survey of some kind, I'd like to know if Southern Europe experiences a recurring camo look particularly Italy which doesn't adopt Northern European themes in the same way, its predominant silhouette is very different from Scandinavia or the UK. US fashion is closer to Northern Europe in terms of trends and silhouette, much straighter, very clean edges in an A line.

I've always assumed that this side of the camo equation has a lot of roots in the military aesthetics of some late 80's hip-hop

You can go back further than the 1980s for your icons, think about John Lennon or Che Guevara.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
12:55 / 03.06.08
From Lennon to Chuck D to Bono to K-OS...
Sorry. I never considered the "Revolutionary inspired" angle, I was only thinking US Army.
Great point.
Still can't say I'm a fan though. Maybe it's because I can't pull it off authentically enough.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
15:51 / 03.06.08
Is it because of demand or has it been chosen as the hot new "colour" by designers?

Since you claim to have seen so many people wearing it, surely that would indicate that there is demand?
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
18:43 / 03.06.08
I'm guessing there must be... I was pondering a rhetorical "chicken or the egg" arguement. Many low - to mid price fashion shops here in Ottawa seem overflowing with camo print. I'm sure it's manufacturers cashing in on a trend, but sometimes I wonder if its consumers buying what's available because there seems so much of it...
I must add, Ottawa is not exactly cosmopolitain when it comes to fashion or style... Montreal, on the other hand... But I haven't been there in a while to be able to comment on the amount of camo worn.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:41 / 04.06.08
Perhaps there's a book to be written about the idea that the fashion industry is pushing militaristic styles in collusion with the state and the military-industrial complex, in order to increase patriotism and approval for war.

You could call it No Camo, freektemple.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
12:29 / 04.06.08
You Bastard! You caught me off guard; I laughed and nearly spit coffee all over my screen. People here are giving me looks.

Better put and said than I was able to get out... Also shows me how ridiculous my thinking can look seen from without. Cheers.

And of course I loved No Logo, anti-corporate and written by a Montrealer, no less...
 
 
Anna de Logardiere
18:20 / 05.06.08
Well if it was a novel I'd read it.
 
 
velouria
20:58 / 10.06.08
Oh man, do I ever have a list of these. Fashion faux pas are RAMPANT in Toronto, particularly in the summer. They all come out.

Uggs are replaced by Crocs.

The other offenders are:
- thongs OR asscracks
- maternity wear/baby doll dresses
- gnarly & unkempt feet
- sandals that are too small
- over-the-top gladiator sandals
 
 
ninjalie
23:11 / 10.06.08
Here's part 2 of my most hated Fashion trends
-Low Rise Pants. Do I really have to explain why this is annoying? I have wide hips and low rise never seems to fit right.
-Striped/ Polka dot socks/leggings Why do people think that this makes them instantly fashionable? despite what they may believe I perceive it as trying too hard. Especially when people think that they match with everything.
-Wearing short shorts or skirts when it's still cold out. You don't look cute, you look desperate for attention.
-Dying your hair different colors without proper upkeep. Pink, Purple, Green, Blue, whatever color you chose if you're going to do it don't let your roots grow out4 inches and keep the faded color in your hair. Either give it the proper upkeep or go with something less high maintenance.

Disclaimer: No one should take this personally these are fashion peeves, not personal insults.
 
 
Anna de Logardiere
11:18 / 12.06.08
Sorry Velouria, those are not self-evident fashion crimes. You have to tell us why or we won't accept your submissions. Also I wear crocs.
 
 
Anna de Logardiere
11:21 / 12.06.08
Striped/ Polka dot socks/leggings Why do people think that this makes them instantly fashionable? despite what they may believe I perceive it as trying too hard

Where's your evidence that this makes people think they're fashionable? Fashion isn't set in people's heads, it's set by trend forecasters, store buyers, labels and designers. At the other end of the spectrum is the idea that you perceive it as trying too hard, you do realise that all they did was put some socks or leggings on right? How can that be trying too hard?

Do you think there's space here to be lazy about a subject because you're talking about clothes? There isn't, you need to use your heads and tell us why you are bothering to dislike the clothes. Pull it together.
 
 
Tsuga
01:27 / 13.06.08
Fashion isn't set in people's heads

Well, that's certainly a misstatement.

But it's fair to ask people to articulate what's in their heads when talking about it, and why.
 
 
Anna de Logardiere
19:47 / 26.06.08
No it's not, clothes don't exist unless you make them.
 
 
oryx
21:07 / 10.07.08
*first post - please be gentle*

I shopped recently, and was particularly underwhelmed by playsuits and (the revival of) ra-ra skirts; the former because I'm not a footballers wife, and the latter because I looked quite ridiculous in them first time around.

By-the-by, I'm very much down on John Galliano, but I am rather fond of Alexander McQueen.
 
 
Ava Banana
18:12 / 12.07.08
I have to agree with the playsuit thing, but ruin it with the fact I have 2 ra-ra skirts. I was bereft of them as a child and now that my pins aren't holding up too badly (although everything else is going to heck) I'm making the most of it! One of them is black and lacy with a sash and I parade about in it imagining I'm in an Adam Ant video.
 
 
HCE
22:52 / 12.07.08
What is a ra-ra skirt?

And what does the bit about 'footballers wives' mean? I know that football=soccer, but 'soccer players' wives' doesn't make sense to me either. Is it slang?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:11 / 12.07.08
"Footballers' Wives" was a TV drama in the UK about a fictional football team and the scheming, adulterous wives behind them. It both drew from and popularised the idea of the WAGs - wives and girlfriends of footballers, a mix of childhood sweethearts and minor entertainment figures. The ultimate WAG is of course Victoria Beckham on the latter side, and Wayne Rooney's wife Colleen on the former.

So, what oryx means is, essentially, expensive clothing worn by women from working-class backgrounds with unprecedented spending power.
 
 
ORA ORA ORA ORAAAA!!
00:58 / 13.07.08
In trying to find out what a playsuit is, I came across this wonder: (or here if they're not allowing hotlinking, maybe)

I find this somewhat disturbing.

I have no fashion trends I hate at the moment, Sydney and Melbourne are looking pretty hot right now.
 
 
oryx
08:01 / 13.07.08
I have to agree with the playsuit thing, but ruin it with the fact I have 2 ra-ra skirts. I was bereft of them as a child and now that my pins aren't holding up too badly (although everything else is going to heck) I'm making the most of it! One of them is black and lacy with a sash and I parade about in it imagining I'm in an Adam Ant video.



If you were bereft first time around, then go for your life. I only have reservations personally because I reckon if you wore something first time around you're almost certainly too old to wear it on its revival - which means I'm really struggling with all this 80's stuff!
 
 
oryx
08:03 / 13.07.08
"Footballers' Wives" was a TV drama in the UK about a fictional football team and the scheming, adulterous wives behind them. It both drew from and popularised the idea of the WAGs - wives and girlfriends of footballers, a mix of childhood sweethearts and minor entertainment figures. The ultimate WAG is of course Victoria Beckham on the latter side, and Wayne Rooney's wife Colleen on the former.

So, what oryx means is, essentially, expensive clothing worn by women from working-class backgrounds with unprecedented spending power.



Good definition, but I'd add that these women are known and popularised exclusively for their appearance and their relationship to their footballer partners, rather than any ability or talent of their own.
 
 
HCE
08:28 / 13.07.08
Can somebody else do this one, please. I am a bit depleted at the moment.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:31 / 13.07.08
Well, one thing to note is that oryx is wrong, factually; the nature of celebrity being what it is, it is hard to work out what exactly elevates one above the other. Cheryl Cole, for example, is about as well-known as a pop star as her husband is as a left-back. Victoria Beckham was probably more famous than David Beckham until about 1994. Louise Nurding had her own career as a singer and model before meeting Jamie Redknapp, and God knows which of them might now be more famous. I would say that Redknapp was more talented in his field, but then I like football, and he had certain flaws as a player that Louise did not have as a starlet. Jamelia, the British R&B singer, is married to a footballer at, I believe, Peterborough United who is considerably less successful than she. Arguably the original WAG, Karren Brady, has arguably achieved far more in business than her husband, Paul Peschisolido, did on the football field.

Another thing to note is that it is a rather strange thing to say. Hillary Rodham Clinton became notable because she was married to the President of the United States of America, as did Eleanor Roosevelt. The media tends to focus on the wives of famous people. It's just a thing, and not exactly the fault of those caught in the glare of the flashbulbs.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
18:56 / 13.07.08
I think if I got famous for doing little work - or got something good, easily - I'd pat myself on the back. I'm not quite sure at what point this attitude would change when other people were the lucky recipient. I think there's considerably more of a problem with politicans who get jobs for not doing very much - or in spite of doing very many bad things - than there is with any famous people who may or may not have done much.
 
 
oryx
00:02 / 14.07.08
Well, one thing to note is that oryx is wrong, factually; the nature of celebrity being what it is, it is hard to work out what exactly elevates one above the other. Cheryl Cole, for example, is about as well-known as a pop star as her husband is as a left-back. Victoria Beckham was probably more famous than David Beckham until about 1994. Louise Nurding had her own career as a singer and model before meeting Jamie Redknapp, and God knows which of them might now be more famous. I would say that Redknapp was more talented in his field, but then I like football, and he had certain flaws as a player that Louise did not have as a starlet. Jamelia, the British R&B singer, is married to a footballer at, I believe, Peterborough United who is considerably less successful than she. Arguably the original WAG, Karren Brady, has arguably achieved far more in business than her husband, Paul Peschisolido, did on the football field.

1994 was, er, 14 years ago by my reckoning. So while Victoria Beckham may well have been more famous than her husband before they got married, it's true to say that the only reason she's still famous is because of her marriage to him - in fact, by being, precisely, a footballers wife. Indeed, her efforts in the Spice Girls have been entirely overshadowed for the whole of the rest of her adult life by her position as British uberWAG.

Cheryl Cole is an exception that proves the rule, its true, but what about Abigail Clancy and Colleen McLaughlin? Again, famous for what they wear and who they're in a relationship with.

Louise Redknapp had a short-lived career as a pop star that she has not sustained in married life. Mind you, she's done well to keep herself out of the tabloid snake-pit, so good for her.

And while I agree that women are held up to scrutiny to the nth degree at the best of times, and more so if they are married to a man in the public eye (remember the drubbing Cherie Blair got?) there is also a difference between the trophy WAGs of British footballers and successful women who happen to be married to successful men. Unless you think that there is a category of women who are photographed by the paparazzi, and that in itself is enough to create a commonality between them?

Point is, I'm hardly "wrong" - but I'll make sure next time I make every second sentence an explanation of the previous one, just to avoid any confusion. :-)
 
 
HCE
04:09 / 14.07.08
So of the seven people mentioned, five don't fit the pattern and yet you're not wrong. Ok. And all five of these people wear something called a playsuit, so often that it is in fact a garment characteristic of them as a ... a group?

Just so it doesn't take you by surprise, it is not uncommon to be asked clarify things that surely sounded so right when you thought them, and yet seem to strike others as curious when they're read.

For example, there's that odd line about the whole of the rest of her adult life, which is either a really weird way of characterizing 1994-2008 (assuming that any fame she had accrued as a result of her pop career instantaneously vanished in a bout of mass amnesia at some point in 1994), or else you're actually making some kind of claim about the whole rest of her adult life, and that would be even weirder. She's still alive, right? I'm not a voracious reader of gossip magazines, so I could well be mistaken and welcome a correction if I am.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
09:21 / 14.07.08
And while I agree that women are held up to scrutiny to the nth degree at the best of times, and more so if they are married to a man in the public eye (remember the drubbing Cherie Blair got?) there is also a difference between the trophy WAGs of British footballers and successful women who happen to be married to successful men. Unless you think that there is a category of women who are photographed by the paparazzi, and that in itself is enough to create a commonality between them?

I don't want to pull this too far off the track, but Eleanor Roosevelt married Franklin Roosevelt in 1905, at the age of 20. She hadn't been successful at very much beyond learning French at that point. One might add that, although HRC was no doubt a very good lawyer, she would never have been noticed by the media in all probability had she not married the man who became President of the United States. So, although she was successful, her success had little to do with her celebrity - just like the WAGs.

Colleen Rooney, one can certainly say with reasonable confidence, would probably not have the profile she has at the moment were she not married to one of the most famous men in Britain. However, this does not mean that she has no talents or abilities, only that those talents and abilities may not have found a spotlight. No less a luminary than Alexandra Shulman has praised her personal style, and she has accumulated considerable personal wealth as a columnist, television presenter and spokesperson - not perhaps honest, son-of-the-soil work, but work nonetheless.
 
 
mercurialblonde
04:38 / 30.07.08
I am also anti-crocs. Ugh. They aren't shoes. And I see them everywhere. I can't even focus on what else people are wearing, I just fixate on these ridiculous shoes.

Though kudos to crocs, for somehow making the most ridiculous looking shoe popular with eeeevvveerrryone.

I'm not a big fan of skinny jeans. They make my feet look big I think. Maybe if I paired them with some crocs though....
 
 
All Acting Regiment
12:55 / 31.07.08
I think that's why people wear the tall boots with them, isn't it?
 
  

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