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Sacred Prostitution in Antiquity

 
  

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rosie x
10:25 / 17.09.07
Popular among neo-pagans and modern devotees of the myriad goddesses of sex, love and desire is the myth of antiquity’s golden age of sacred prostitution: a legendary time, long ago, when women sold their bodies in veneration of the goddess, and any man could achieve communion with her so long as he paid the right price. The primal scene in this story is Herodotus’ Babylon, or rather a musing on the sexual customs of neo-Babylonia in the 6th century BCE:

The most shameful custom of the Babylonians have is this: every native woman must go sit in the temple of Aphrodite, once in her life, and have sex with an adult male stranger…Once a woman sits down there, she doesn’t return home until a stranger drops money into her lap and has sex with her outside the temple. When he drops it, he has to say, “I call on the goddess Mylitta”. Assyrians call Aphrodite Mylitta. This money can be of any value at all- it is not refused, for that is forbidden, for this money becomes sacred. She follows the first one who drops the money and rejects none. When she has had sex, she has performed her religious dues to the goddess and goes home; and from that time on you will never make her a big enough gift to have her. All those who have looks and presence quickly get it over with, all those of them who have no looks wait for a long time unable to fulfil the law…

This account has produced widely divergent reactions among scholars, many expressing disbelief that Herodotus ever spent any time in Babylon, for it is widely know that the extent of his travels is generally exaggerated, and the veracity of his writings widely questioned. Yet many neo-pagans credit his account, taking it for granted that such customs were generally prevalent in the Near East, and even speculating that all great cities in the region featured temple / brothel complexes, complete with resident prostitutes sacred to a Love goddess- often subsumed in modern writings under the names of Ishtar, Inanna, Ashtoreth or Astarte.

Yet the copious temple records from Hellenistic Babylonia generally fail to convince researchers of the existence of such organised cults, much less a custom of ritual prostitution embracing the entire female population of Babylon, or more generally for any large scale practice of cultic prostitution at all. The Babylonian temple records preserve a intricately detailed picture of the calendar, timetable and agenda of the various temple complexes, and there is no trace of the organisation, accounts, housing and so forth that would be required by a large scale cult of temple prostitutes.

The second most cited source when referring to sacred prostitution in antiquity is the Greek writer Strabo, who lived some 400 years after Herodotus, and wrote on the legendary sexual customs of Corinth:

The temple of Aphrodite was so rich that it had acquired more than a thousand hierodule whores, dedicated by both men and women to the goddess. And because of them, the city used to be jam-packed and got wealthy. The ship-captains would spend up easily, and so the proverb says: ‘Not for every man is the voyage to Corinth’.

What enthusiasts often fail to mention is that Strabo was not providing a first hand observation of such practices, or even writing about the Corinth of his day. The Romans had invaded Corinth in 146 BCE, some 73 years before the birth of Strabo. His accounts do little but reminisce about the golden age of the Hellenistic Corinth: he is not presenting his reader with an account of how things are but a fantastical description of how things once were long ago in an altogether different era.
It’s hardly an eyewitness account…

I find it quite perplexing that the two classical authors most commonly cited in the case for widespread cultic prostitution in the pagan temples of antiquity were writing about cities they had never visited, and times which they did not live in. Failing to uncover primary Assyrian sources, enthusiasts cling even tighter to these secondary Greek accounts, written by men, and primarily for the male readers of their day. Female accounts of these practices are absolutely unheard of.

I’d like to put this topic out for discussion in the Temple: it brings up all kinds of interesting issues concerning gender, sexuality, religion, history, the politics of desire and the body as commodity. I’m really interested in hearing from both enthusiasts of the legends, as well as sceptics who fail to be convinced by the lack of evidence.

My own position on the topic falls in between total scepticism and an all out embrace of the popular myth. Serving a Lady of Desire, it’s all too easy to become enthralled with the fantasy of a golden age of sacred sex. My own Lady is a patroness of prostitutes, not in antiquity but in modern times. I speculate that in actuality, the practice of sacred prostitution was a much more varied experience than most writers on the subject postulate: encompassing everything from underprivileged girls and boys sold into temple servitude, to regular working girls keeping a shrine to the goddess so that they’ll have good business, to perhaps even the priestess who offered her body in service of the mysteries. Who knows, really?

By the way, I know there are few classics scholars out there among you posters: your thoughts and textual references are especially appreciated.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
11:24 / 17.09.07
Good stuff, Rosie

See this post for links & critique of the notion of "sacred prostitutes" in antiquity.
 
 
Quantum
11:59 / 17.09.07
I think Gaiman's Sandman is partly to blame for some people adopting that view of temple prostitutes.
 
 
rosie x
13:17 / 17.09.07
Thanks Trouser... I'd must have overlooked the posts in the Stupid Questions thread from last year. Thanks for pointing them out, and for the article links as well.

I really like Roy Medallion's contribution over there:

I think we should hold it in our minds whenever examining these issues - to what degree do we want to believe in “sacred porstitues”? It stikes me as a “back projection” that fulfils a lot of the fantasties that pagans and occultists – those dissatisfied with the Xtian based sexual morality – often weave around historical phenomena.....

We have here an idelaised pagan society, who were presumably “unrepressed”, a society which advocates a union between the divine and sexuality etc. - the clear opposite of Christianity. We're on very loaded territory in terms of wish-fulfilment.
 
 
Ticker
14:11 / 17.09.07
to perhaps even the priestess who offered her body in service of the mysteries.

I've always had a pet peeve about this being ref'd as prostitution which maybe due in part to my negative reaction to that term in particular. Even if I swap it out with sex worker it still doesn't sit right with me. If I sit with it for a bit I begin to suspect it's because the focus is on the sexual role rather than on the overall sacred duty, whatever form that takes. A priestess in the course of duty engages in acts on behalf of the community. I think this fascination about the sexual role says more about our culture segregating the sexual from the others than it does about the priestess' duties.

Maybe for the priestesses/priests within our society it is an especially great expression of commitment because our society has such strong aversion to open sharing of sexuality, but I feel uncomfortable about projecting this segregation/taboo as a universal.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
14:43 / 17.09.07
Rosie

I just found Women and their agency in the Neo-Assyrian Empire (PDF, 811kb) by Sanna Teppo. See subsection 8.4.1 for a further questioning of the notion of "sacred prostitutes".
 
 
rosie x
14:48 / 17.09.07
Stinklet...I think it would probably be highly out of order to equate prostitution, or sex-work as many prefer to call it these days, with current roles in the neo-pagan clergy, be they sexual or not. I’m not attempting to do so, only to examine and critique what I feel to be historical inaccuracy and myth-making on the bodies of women

The popular conception about what people refer to as “sacred prostitution” can be pretty much boiled down to this: in ancient times there supposedly existed cults of near-eastern priestesses who sold “sacred” sex, that is, physical communion with the Love goddess in her manifold forms. It’s a nebulous area, and one that raises all sorts of tricky issues in a variety of fields: history, religion, women’s studies etc. But like it or not, this is the common presumption. Personally, I find it all a bit infuriating, as I reckon sex customs in the ancient world were a hell of a lot more complicated than most writers on the subject purport.
 
 
grant
15:31 / 17.09.07
priestesses

There are also references qadeshim/kadoshim or kelabim (euphemistically "dogs") - male hierodules.

Just sayin'.
 
 
Princess
15:45 / 17.09.07
The Devadasi Tradition is often seen as one of sacred prostitution and exploitation.

The wiki, I think, informs me that the prostitution is a relatively recent addition to the devadasi's work. But wikipedia is, well, not the best source. Cursory internet resarch certainly suggests that the tradition is ancient and that it now includes sacred prostitution.

Not sure how useful that is but I thought it might be another thread to follow if any one was interested.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
15:58 / 17.09.07
Princess

See this post for some thoughts on the Devadasis.
 
 
Princess
17:31 / 17.09.07
Thanks trouser, am there now.
 
 
Ticker
22:16 / 17.09.07
Stinklet...I think it would probably be highly out of order to equate prostitution, or sex-work as many prefer to call it these days, with current roles in the neo-pagan clergy, be they sexual or not. I’m not attempting to do so, only to examine and critique what I feel to be historical inaccuracy and myth-making on the bodies of women


Ok. But what do we do with the modern day clergy who are doing sacred sex work based in part around these problematic historical texts?

I think for me this is part of the larger mess. It isn't just projecting back in time on the bodies and lives of folks long gone and framing their experiences.

There are people doing this who I respect a great deal and I believe if historical sacred prostitution was proven to be a fabrication these folks would still be doing their current work. However, they are basing a large part of their work on these texts.
 
 
Ticker
22:28 / 17.09.07
Please to be sending me JSTOR login?

Tamar the Hierodule: An Essay in the Method of Vestigial Motifs
 
 
*
02:10 / 18.09.07
grant, some of those qadeshim might have been priestesses; depending on their circumstances and identities.

The one exception might have been the entu, whom the Sumerians called Nin.Dingir "Lady Deity" or "Lady Who Is Goddess" (Henshaw 1994:47; Frayne 1985:14). If the "Sacred Marriage Rite" ever involved human participants, this priestess might, as "Inanna," have had ritual intercourse with the king. However, the entu had very high status (Henshaw 1994:46) and, according to Mesopotamian law codes, had to adhere to "strict ethical standards" (Hooks 1985:13). Whatever else she was, she was not a prostitute.

For a certain period, the "Sacred Marriage" was an important fertility ritual in Mesopotamia (Frayne 1985:6). As a result of the king's participation, whatever form it took, he became Inanna's consort, sharing "her invaluable fertility power and potency" (Kramer 1969:57), as well as, to some extent, her divinity and that of her bridegroom Dumuzi. Unfortunately, no text tells us what happened in the temple's ritual bedroom, not even whether the participants were human beings or statues (Hooks 1985:29). However, in a persuasive article, Douglas Frayne argues that, at least in early times, the participants were human: the king and the Nin.Dindir/entu (Frayne 1985:14).

In the "Sacred Marriage" material, the female participant is always called Inanna (Sefati 1998:305), so her human identity is obscured. That is not surprising, for I suspect that, during the ritual, the only female present was Inanna. What I am suggesting is that the Nin.Dindir/entu was a medium. Through talent and training, she went into a trance and allowed Inanna to take over her body. Then the goddess could actually be present during the ritual. To a greater or lesser degree, the king could similarly have embodied the god Dumuzi.

Johanna H. Stuckey, "Sacred Prostitutes," an example of good scholarship in a pagan publication. Nice!
 
 
rosie x
08:24 / 18.09.07
Ok. But what do we do with the modern day clergy who are doing sacred sex work based in part around these problematic historical texts?… There are people doing this who I respect a great deal and I believe if historical sacred prostitution was proven to be a fabrication these folks would still be doing their current work. However, they are basing a large part of their work on these texts.

I don’t know really. In my opinion the modern ritual sex practices of neo-pagans are an entirely different basket of eggs than the myth of sacred prostitution in near eastern antiquity. We’re not just talking sacred sex here, but sacred sex for hire: complete with financial transaction.

On the whole, contemporary pagans are essentially reconstructionists, and have been, at times, notable for ascribing historically inaccurate roots to their modern-day ritual practices. Take for instance the case of anthropologist Margaret Murray (The Witch Cult in Western Europe, The God of the Witches). Her work’s taken a thorough debunking over the past few years, yet that doesn’t negate the practice of Wicca or many of the other pagan traditions on which it exerted a developing influence.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
08:37 / 18.09.07
Inklet

But what do we do with the modern day clergy who are doing sacred sex work based in part around these problematic historical texts?

I assume you're referring to pagan clergy? Could you perhaps say more about this?

Here's a few more links for consideration:

Here is Diana Rose Hartmann asserting that The Sacred Prostitute is a woman who has reclaimed her Self and reconnected with her will. Most importantly, she is a woman who has reclaimed the sacredness of her body.

Interview with self-identified sacred whore Carol Leigh

On a slight tangent, here's an article by Susan Raine discussing "Flirty Fishing" in the "Children of God" in which many women in the group used their sexuality in combination with scriptural discussions as a method of proselytization.

Introducing the New Holy Erotics - Loraine Hutchins analyses the emergence of the contemporary notions of "sacred sexuality" and "sacred prostitute".
 
 
rosie x
10:50 / 18.09.07
Those are some great links Trouser, thanks so much for posting them. I especially enjoyed the interview with Carol Leigh…for many reasons. I really admire the forthright and thoughtful manner in which she answers the questions put towards her. It’s also refreshing to see a modern sex worker engaging in the sacred dimensions of her profession who doesn’t see the need to validate it with historical myths: speculation about what women (and men!) may or may not have done in the distant past.
 
 
rosie x
11:38 / 18.09.07
One of the things which prompted me starting this thread in the first place was the number of men and women who currently seem to be redefining the archetype of the sacred prostitute as an empowering liberated figure: one who has an integral role to play in alleviating burdens of sexual repression within contemporary society, and fighting the misogyny which many perceive to be at the root of such repression. More power to them I say. My own discomfort seems to arise when individuals project the modern dimensions of this archetype onto the women of antiquity, often citing historically questionable sources as validation of their point at hand.

Examples of this sort of speculation can be found in both academic and devotional works; though they are far more common in the latter variety. Often the author will bend the historical data to suit their spiritual experiences or beliefs, rather than assessing the evidence (or lack of) in an objective manner, and on its own terms.
 
 
Ticker
12:43 / 18.09.07
I think rosie x, I'm right there with you:

My own discomfort seems to arise when individuals project the modern dimensions of this archetype onto the women of antiquity, often citing historically questionable sources as validation of their point at hand.

I suspect for myself I'm getting tangled in language distinctions. Say for example instead of temple prostitutes the interpretation of some ancient practices ref'd to the possible function of temple sexual surrogates in religious ceremonies, like in Zippid's example upthread. For myself there is a huge difference between the two, but it's mine and belongs to my culture and doesn't automatically make sense projected backwards (or sideways) onto others.

If modern practitioners are as you point out basing a portion of their current practices on incorrect views of ancient times, does this not function to reinforce and hold the incorrect assumption about the past? Less 'you have to stop doing this activity' but more 'just source from your modern personal experience'?

trouser, one of the pagan communities I interact with has an active sacred sex clergy membership. I'll go ask if they have any articles online about their experiences and reasoning. (I thought they did but now cannot find the linkage).
 
 
trouser the trouserian
13:05 / 18.09.07
I find it interesting that a common theme throughout a lot the romantic writings about "sacred prostitutes", "holy whores" etc., is what could be termed a "labour of loss" - a phrase I'm borrowing from Sumathi Ramaswamy, which she takes to mean the ways in which the efforts to identify, claim and define something that has been lost (she uses the phrase in her discussions of "lost civilisations" such as Lemuria, but I think it's equally applicable to ahistorical pagan narratives) allows the construction of "memories" (or at least, "readings") of the past that become central to identity in the present and projections into the future. Exponents of the "sacred prostitute" narratives are, I think, participating in this "labour of loss" by claiming a contemporary identity that's based in an imagined past - when everything was hunky-dory until the "fall" occasioned by the arrival of Christianity, Patriarchy or Modernity (depending on who you read) - and equally, looking towards a "future" when things might be different.

What also interests me is that these romantic narratives tend to "invert" the biases of what's now deemed to be "flawed" (or at the least, seriously contested) scholarship - i.e. the notion that the only role women could play in religion was that of a prostitute so common in 19th century scholarship - and used as further evidence for a culture's "degeneracy" by orientalists - becomes "inverted" and romanticised. So what was formerly used to advance notions (and practices) of cultural dominance is reconfigured as a site for identity formation.

See this article Corrupting Aphrodite (PDF, 5.5mb) for a discussion of how colonial writers used Herodotus et al as "evidence" for the sexual (and moral degeneration) of the Cypriot people.
 
 
rosie x
21:47 / 18.09.07
Trouser, thanks so much for the fascinating article on Aphrodite—I really enjoyed reading that.

Concerning Herodotus…

I am often amazed at the variety of agendas to which this brief and offhand passage at the close of the first book of his Histories (quoted up-thread in my opening post) has been used to promote over the years. In the article that Trouser links to above, the passage is quoted by “General” Luigi Palma di Cesnola in his 1877 work Cyprus: Its Cities, Tombs and Temples. In this work, the Herodotus quote was used to back di Cesnola’s arguments that the Cypriots were morally degenerate race, descended from ancient sexual deviants, and that the British were essentially doing them a favour by colonizing their island.

More modern writers, seeking to validate a mythological Assyrian golden age of sacred sex, seem to use the very same words to very different ends. As Trouser mentions above, it’s a classic turn of “inversion”.

This passage from the Histories has recently been quoted in Thelemic author Peter Grey’s The Red Goddess, a work which I found to be simultaneously enthralling and frustrating. Make no mistakes, it is a gorgeous, magical book: very sexy, very engaging and beautifully written. The author’s spiritual devotion inebriates each and every page, and I admire his work immensely. My frustrations are for the most part limited to the book’s first section: a “historical” view of sacred sexual practices in the ancient near east.

In searching for the Assyrian roots of the Thelemic goddess Babalon, Grey speculates on her predecessors, Inanna and Ishtar. His theory is a common one, often found in neo-pagan and feminist writing: In the days of pagan antiquity, the prostitute was seen as avatar of the goddess and sex with these dedicated individuals was perceived as a sacred act. Herein lies the myth of antiquity’s Sacred Harlot or Holy Whore. Great cults flourished around these religious practices, from Sicily to Assyria, and all was pretty damn fantastic until Christianity came along to spoil the party.

I don’t want to quote too much from the book as I’m aware that quotes taken out of context can often be misconstrued, but here follows a few small excerpts:

There was not uniform condemnation of the whore in the ancient world. Her status was much more ambiguous then… In the ancient world it was understood that to attain the moment of transcendent sexual union it was best to have a professional priestess skilled in the arts of Love…The temples of the Love Goddesses were often brothels.

…the daughters of Babylon would sacrifice their sex at the temple to any man who would have her as Goddess. The virgins would sit outside the temple and wait for a stranger to come and throw a coin into their lap…Their sexuality was not theirs, it was from the Goddess, and the Goddess receives everyone. This acceptance is what it means to be a Holy Whore.


And of course, making an appearance on the same page as these words is the oft-quoted passage from Herodotus. In fact, it’s the only historical reference which Grey supports his claims with. He certainly wouldn’t be the first author to make such presumptions, and I doubt either that he’ll be the last.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
06:26 / 19.09.07
Their sexuality was not theirs, it was from the Goddess, and the Goddess receives everyone. This acceptance is what it means to be a Holy Whore.

I think this is a particularly dubious notion. These "priestesses" the author is talking about were "professionals"; "skilled in the art of love" - but didn't 'own' their sexuality? Huh?
 
 
rosie x
11:37 / 19.09.07
Perhaps. Far more dubious in my opinion is the projection of one’s sexual fantasies and spiritual beliefs onto the women of ancient neo-Babylonia, with no historical validation save one highly disputed quote from one man. One man who, most likely, never even went there. One man who most certainly had his own political agendas to promote, i.e. the moral superiority of the Greeks over the Persians. One man whose writings were originally designed as performance, and was known to have taken much theatrical and poetic license with his material. Yet modern writers of all persuasions seem to quote this one passage from Herodotus as if it were absolute scripture, undisputed truth, an objective, eye-witness account. Doing so robs the women of ancient neo-Babylonia of an authentic history, and especially an authentic sexual history. It denies the complexity of their lives, their beliefs, their dimension of their desires: it reduces them to a pliant caricature, one which may be molded to suit a variety of political and spiritual agendas.
 
 
rosie x
12:34 / 19.09.07
Whether the writer’s agenda is one of female degradation (as common in Victorian times) or of female elevation (as common in contemporary ones) is of questionable import. Any projection of belief based on patchy evidence negates the authenticity of female experience: it says more about the author’s desires than those of the women he or she is writing about.
 
 
Ticker
12:45 / 19.09.07
trouser:What also interests me is that these romantic narratives tend to "invert" the biases of what's now deemed to be "flawed" (or at the least, seriously contested) scholarship - i.e. the notion that the only role women could play in religion was that of a prostitute so common in 19th century scholarship - and used as further evidence for a culture's "degeneracy" by orientalists - becomes "inverted" and romanticised. So what was formerly used to advance notions (and practices) of cultural dominance is reconfigured as a site for identity formation.



rosie x:Far more dubious in my opinion is the projection of one’s sexual fantasies and spiritual beliefs onto the women of ancient neo-Babylonia

rosie x again: One man who most certainly had his own political agendas to promote,

For me this is the icky 'run away run away' part. In seeking to root the validity of modern sacred sexual ethics and practices in some historical context or ancient pedigree there's a wholehearted blickered distortion of another culture. Ok to be fair maybe it's not completely wholehearted or conscious but given the dominant culture's ingrained habit of misappropriation and speaking as experts of another's experience (silenced or unable to speak for themselves by eons or lack of privilage) it's not ok.

The inversion trouser mentions strikes me as particularly troublesome because I suspect it's describing a loaded agenda rooting around in the pages of the past.

From a wider discussion on misappriopriation of cultural artifacts:

Cultural Security's Import for Memory and Identity

Archeological artifacts gain their historical and cultural meaning through discourse. Their function as an ideological and persuasive force in society is the domain of visual rhetoric. As a form of rhetoric, the artifacts contribute to “doxa,” – the general knowledge upon which judgments of “good reasons” and arguments within the public sphere can be based. If the linkages between doxa and its referents become too tenuous, a crisis of legitimacy within civil society could result.

Scholarship employing rhetorical-critical theory suggests that both the physical and symbolic dimensions of archeological and cultural artifacts influence how people and societies renegotiate identity. Such renegotiation is a common and continuous process, of cultural import during periods of societal renewal.



So perhaps it is reasonable to suggest the modern needs for renegotiation around current perceptions of sacred sexual activity are the engine behind framing these historical personages and activities in specific contexts. A different political agenda to be sure but just as distortive as Herodotus' regardless if the intent is to promote degeneracy or supremacy. It's not describing them and their culture, it's reflecting us and ours.
 
 
shockoftheother
14:33 / 19.09.07
Great topic, and one that I've been thinking about a lot since reading Peter's book. It's certainly true that the passage rosie quoted from the Histories has exerted a fascination for magicians and neopagans for some considerable time, and given rise to some rather strange orientalist magical writing - in both Herodotus and Strabo's accounts temple prostitution takes place elsewhere, originally to signify the degeneracy of other cultures. As trouser observes, this is inverted by pagan rereadings, but I don't see it commonly forming a locus of identification for women but an idealised, hypersexualised fantasy by male magicians.

This is obviously complicated by those sexworkers that see their work as inherently sacred and part of their spiritual lives, and since Crowley is responsible for a lot of the discourse about the sacred whore, I found Magdalene Meretrix's writing interesting in this respect - she writes a little about her work here - but I think there's a distinction to be made between being sex-positive, being promiscuous and being a whore, and these things seem to be rolled into one in a lot of pagan writing.

I want to add a caveat to this discussion, which is that all these terms are so heavily loaded that invoking them carelessly can lead to a lot of upset, and all magicians really ought to respect the power of words to harm or heal. I've certainly engaged with promiscuity as an act of devotion before (and wrote a little about some of those experiences, on a similar theme here), but I really wouldn't consider that in the same vein as sacred prostitution or whoredom. (I'm interested in the different reception of this behaviour in queer circles compared to straight ones.)

In the essay I linked to above, Magda rereads the words Crowley puts in Bablon's mouth ("There is no form, no being, to which I do not give myself wholly up. Take me, who will!") in a way that allows her to refuse clients as a sexworker. Of course, it's her prerogative to work her spirituality in a way that isn't destructive to her, but I find it hard to believe Crowley meant it in any other way than the obvious one. This is my fundamental problem with a lot of the discourse around sacred prostitution, which is that most of what I've read has been written by men and is redolent of exotic adolescent fantasy combined with a bad case of topping from the bottom - Crowley's particularly bad at this, and it leads to a trend in conceiving of women as perpetually sexualised beings, eternally up for it, and ready to dominate you at any time you want, in exactly the way you want. (Reality says: where is the ability to say no? Where is the ability to sit down and have a cup of tea and read a book instead?)

What I really don't get is that my experience of people who are heavily invested in the idea of the sacred whore - which is almost entirely & exclusively of male magicians of some stripe - is that they use the language of pleasure and enjoyment to describe the process, with almost no focus on the exchange of money, something that sits uncomfortably with me. I have a number of friends who have been or still are sexworkers, and the unifying feature of their accounts is not sexual enjoyment - which may or may not be present - but the importance of being paid and making the client believe they are enjoying the process. A friend of mine works with Change the Picture, and I'd advise reading her reflections here and here on working on that project.

The challenge I level at men who advance the Crowley-style sacred whore is this: go out and get paid for sex that you don't want. Get fucked for money, by a man you're not attracted to, even if you're straight. Until that happens I don't see how you're taking it seriously, really. Because that's what it's about, it's real and it happens. 'Whore' isn't another word for a sexually-liberated person, it has a whole history and culture surrounding it, and it's generally not an especially pleasant one.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
14:45 / 19.09.07
It's not describing them and their culture, it's reflecting us and ours.

That's an interesting point, which I will come back to (no time at present) - for now, here's another article which I think is appropriate to this thread: “Too Hot for God”: Beasts and Sovereigns in Prostitutes’ Discourse which examines, amongst other things, what the author terms "“Pagan prostitute discourse."
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
15:38 / 19.09.07
In real life, I think it would be rather ungentlemanly to use the word "whore" to refer to a sex worker, either to her/his face or otherwise. So in terms of my living magical practice, I would also steer well clear of using such a loaded term to describe a deity who has patronage of sex and sex workers. If there is any reclaiming of the word "whore" to be done, it is probably not the place of male magicians (at least those lacking a background in prostitution themselves) to take up that.. er... baton.

I think the idea of "Babalon, the sacred whore" is a really problematic idea to take on board and work with, without examining what is actually going on there and whose dubious ideas about femininity, sexuality, and prostitution you are also taking on board when you accept the idea of the Goddess Babalon. There's a lot of Crowley's own dubious attitudes to these matters bound up in the Thelemic idea of Babalon (and ting), and I'm not very comfortable about buying into that.

Also, I find it weird that the whole intrinsic power of this idea of "Babalon, mother of harlots" derives from the Book of Revelations. It's as if a lot of Thelemites want to draw on the perceived power of this Biblical antiquity - which is really quite odd when you consider that your average Thelemites is not just dismissive but often actively opposed to the validity of the rest of that particular book.

How can you accept this particular tiny bit of the Bible as "true" in some sense, and relevant to your magical practice, whilst totally discounting the rest of it? It's a bit odd, and perhaps indicative of the extent to which Crowley and Thelema cannot really be easily separated from the Christian/post-Christian context they emerged out of. I think the whole apocalyptic aspect comes into play here as well. All of this stuff about Babalon as the harbinger of the apocalypse is problematic for me. It always troubles me when magicians seem to have a hard-on for the end of the world, and I think you can perhaps draw a clear line between the idealisation of the past and the desire to hark back to a mythical golden age (as exemplified by the willingness to believe in sacred prostitution in antiquity) and the desire for some kind of apocalyptic event due to commence at some unspecified point in the near future. Both of these tendencies often go hand-in-hand, and you could argue that they emerge out of a squeamishness or unwillingness to look at what is actually happening right here and now, in your practice, in your life and in the world. It's easier to project back into a "golden age" or project forward into an utopian or dystopian future, than it is to deal with the here and now, and the responsibilities of living and practicing magic in the here and now.

Another tangent that occurred to me, is how the word Babalon/Babylon was also taken up by Rastafari in broadly the same time period as it was taken up by Thelema. There is a very different usage in Rastafari, where the word Babylon is used to describe all that is wrong and evil about western culture. Biblical scholars argue that John the Revelator was using ancient Babylon as an allegory for Rome, and the Rasta usage is in this same mode. Babylon as a metaphor for western imperialism, colonialism and so on. I don't think Rasta has that much to say about the Whore of Babylon, at least not in my record collection, but its a very, very patriarchal philosophy and movement with very little room for the Mysteries of the Lady to breathe or exist. Unless you count Phyllis Dillon.

This whole notion of Babylon - as a place of great evil, symbolised by the Whore of Babylon - from John the Revelator onwards through its later appropriation by everyone from Crowley to Rastafari, seems to contain some inherently negative and problematic ideas about female sexuality bound up in it. It's as if there's a hidden mystery of empowered female sexuality (that runs through the respective mysteries of Goddesses such as Astarte, Innana, Aphrodite, Erzulie, Oshun, Pomba Gira, etc) that gets labeled whore by the male observer. In some ways, Crowley's idea of the Goddess Babalon is an early 20th century lens on interacting with these same mysteries of female sexuality that have been interacted with through various other lenses at various different times and in various different cultures. But in choosing to interact with these mysteries through that particular lens, it seems to me that we're just contributing to this extremely pejorative slant on the Divine Feminine that male observers have been pushing for thousands of years.
 
 
Ticker
16:53 / 19.09.07
It's as if there's a hidden mystery of empowered female sexuality (that runs through the respective mysteries of Goddesses such as Astarte, Innana, Aphrodite, Erzulie, Oshun, Pomba Gira, etc) that gets labeled whore by the male observer. In some ways, Crowley's idea of the Goddess Babalon is an early 20th century lens on interacting with these same mysteries of female sexuality that have been interacted with through various other lenses at various different times and in various different cultures. But in choosing to interact with these mysteries through that particular lens, it seems to me that we're just contributing to this extremely pejorative slant on the Divine Feminine that male observers have been pushing for thousands of years.

to pull this apart a bit Gypsy to see if I'm picking up what you are putting down...

a hidden mystery of empowered female sexuality... that gets labeled whore

If I am walking with rosie x's perception then the modern reclaiming of 'sacred whore' while serving its own valid modern function obscures and incorrectly validates this original offense.
 
 
Ticker
17:03 / 19.09.07
I'd like to also add that the concept/fantasy of the historical sacred whore and the modern sacred whore are not solely the domain of hetero male magicians.

While it most certainly is an issue of gender colonization in may respects it is being played out on/in multiple kinds of bodies by multiple kinds of bodies.
 
 
rosie x
17:04 / 19.09.07
Wow, this thread is really picking up! Thanks so much everyone for your fantastic thoughts and contributions. I'd like to address a few of the points brought up in the last few posts, but first let me get back to some thoughts I was putting together earlier today.

In seeking to understand the sexual customs of ancient Mesopotamia, is it not wiser to examine the first-hand sources? I’ve still got quite a bit of reading to do on the subject, but even the little bit I have done has produced descriptions of intriguingly varied customs.

Prostitution was indeed practiced widely in ancient Mesopotamia, and it was not frowned upon so much as it seems to be in contemporary times. It was a way for a woman to make a living, and achieve a little bit of financial independence in a highly patriarchal society. Here’s a few excerpts from The Code of Hammurabi:

178. If a "devoted woman" or a prostitute to whom her father has given a dowry and a deed therefore, but if in this deed it is not stated that she may bequeath it as she pleases, and has not explicitly stated that she has the right of disposal; if then her father die, then her brothers shall hold her field and garden, and give her corn, oil, and milk according to her portion, and satisfy her. If her brothers do not give her corn, oil, and milk according to her share, then her field and garden shall support her. She shall have the usufruct of field and garden and all that her father gave her so long as she lives, but she can not sell or assign it to others. Her position of inheritance belongs to her brothers.

179. If a "sister of a god," or a prostitute, receive a gift from her father, and a deed in which it has been explicitly stated that she may dispose of it as she pleases, and give her complete disposition thereof: if then her father die, then she may leave her property to whomsoever she pleases. Her brothers can raise no claim thereto.

180. If a father give a present to his daughter--either marriageable or a prostitute (unmarriageable)--and then die, then she is to receive a portion as a child from the paternal estate, and enjoy its usufruct so long as she lives. Her estate belongs to her brothers.

181. If a father devote a temple-maid or temple-virgin to God and give her no present: if then the father die, she shall receive the third of a child's portion from the inheritance of her father's house, and enjoy its usufruct so long as she lives. Her estate belongs to her brothers.

182. If a father devote his daughter as a wife of Mardi of Babylon (as in 181), and give her no present, nor a deed; if then her father die, then shall she receive one-third of her portion as a child of her father's house from her brothers, but Marduk may leave her estate to whomsoever she wishes.


I reckon the complexities of sex work were just as manifold in the ancient world as they are today, and the personal experiences of prostitutes just as varied. It’s a tricky business which people get into for a variety of reasons. The prime motivator is usually financial: getting paid. It’s also wise to make sure your trick has a good time, and believes that you’re thoroughly enjoying it: repeat customers are great for business.

I’ve found no historical evidence to suggest that prostitutes were found in the temples of Ishtar or Inanna, but some sources speculate that brothels were located nearby or in the general vicinity. But how people jump to conclusions such as all the women of ancient Babylon sold their bodies to strangers, and all whores were sacred priestesses and all priestesses sacred whores…and believe me man, they LOVED it… is some real far-fetched thinking.

Some of the ancient myths of Mesopotamia do make for sexy reading... In these times its likely that there were religious practices where a priestess and a king or priest would enact marriages between the deities. The priestess would play the part of a goddess, the king or priest would become the god, the couple would be ceremonially married, and possibly, they would consummate the union: as in the myths of Inanna / Ishtar and Damuzi / Tamuz:

Inanna sang:

"Last night as I, the queen, was shining bright,
Last night as I, the Queen of Heaven, was shining bright,
As I was shining bright and dancing,
Singing praises at the coming of the night -

He met me - he met me!
My lord Dumuzi met me.
He put his hand into my hand.
He pressed his neck close against mine.

My high priest is ready for the holy loins.
My lord Dumuzi is ready for the holy loins.
The plants and herbs in his field are ripe.

O Dumuzi! Your fullness is my delight!"

She called for it, she called for the bed!
She called for the bed that rejoices the heart.
She called for the bed that sweetens the loins.
She called for the bed of kingship.
She called for the bed of queenship.

Inanna called for the bed:
"Let the bed that rejoices the heart be prepared!
Let the bed that sweetens the loins be prepared!
Let the bed of kingship be prepared!
Let the bed of queenship be prepared!
Let the royal bed be prepared!"

Inanna spread the bridal sheet across the bed.
She called to the king:
"The bed is ready!"
She called to her bridegroom:
"The bed is waiting!"


This myth of the “Sacred Marriage” is often lumped in with musings on the nature of “sacred prostitution” and general speculation about sex customs in the ancient world: as if the presence of erotic deities in a civilization necessitates that its women be sexually promiscuous. I find this line of thinking to be especially frustrating. What, if anything, does the above signify except the formula for a happy marriage, a fulfilling partnership, an erotic union?
 
 
rosie x
17:21 / 19.09.07
More laws governing sexual relations from The Code of Hammurabi:

128. If a man take a woman to wife, but have no intercourse with her, this woman is no wife to him.

129. If a man's wife be surprised with another man, both shall be tied and thrown into the water, but the husband may pardon his wife and the king his slaves.

130. If a man violate the wife (betrothed or child-wife) of another man, who has never known a man, and still lives in her father's house, and sleep with her and be surprised, this man shall be put to death, but the wife is blameless.

154. If a man be guilty of incest with his daughter, he shall be driven from the place (exiled).

155. If a man betroth a girl to his son, and his son have intercourse with her, but he (the father) afterward defile her, and be surprised, then he shall be bound and cast into the water (drowned).

156. If a man betroth a girl to his son, but his son has not known her, and if then he defile her, he shall pay her half a gold mina, and compensate her for all that she brought out of her father's house. She may marry the man of her heart.

157. If any one be guilty of incest with his mother after his father, both shall be burned.


Hardly the picture of a 24 hour, citywide orgy...

Besides, if the entire female population of ancient Babylon was indeed under political and religious injunction to prostitute themselves once in a lifetime, as Herodotus claims, then when, precisely, did this occur? Before marriage? Afterwards? Unlikely in both cases…
 
 
Ticker
17:26 / 19.09.07
as if the presence of erotic deities in a civilization necessitates that its women be sexually promiscuous.

I would say it's not about the deities. Merely having erotic women seems to equate them with promiscuity, and I'd suggest one could remove even the women and simply end up with the erotic being equated with promiscuity.
 
 
rosie x
17:38 / 19.09.07
And promiscuity being associated with prostitution. Round and round, huh?!?
 
 
Ticker
17:56 / 19.09.07
the erotic and the promiscuous seem to be far scarier for people than tying sex to an economic and potentially oppressive system. Maybe it's the justification of no other way to survive, or the perceived built in suffering of prostitiution that seems to make it 'ok'. It's contained and channeled through the system of status/privilege rather than shaking it off.


it seems to me that the mystery of empowered female sexuality hidden or displayed is terrifying. Maybe it's empowered sexuality in general (oh for a head shop link) where the commodified value of one's body, not via manual labor, but as a conduit to pleasure is levied a tax.

Folks can get their heads around a person forced into prostitution more readily than one selecting it. Harder still I think is the concept of sharing something one values highly at no cost. This seems to be really difficult to comprehend in our culture. It's hardier to think about temple priestesses performing/celebrating/sharing their sexual interactions not for profit or scapegoat obligatory duty ( where the inherent shame* is transmuted by the sanctity of the task).



*projected during the modern reading of their experience
 
  

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