/Now, I'm sure that those bisexual/gay men were extremely disappointed that you couldn't gte freaky with them, but it's not actually your responsibility to bring the freak if you dont feel like it. You dont have to try to fancy anybody. Fancying somebody is just something that happens - it's not a political responsibility. /
It was a bit a joke. The joke being I wish I could fancy men who fancied me. It'd mean more lovin'! But thanks for telling how exactly sexuality works. Quite technical yet so simple! Oh the problems of youth, you can't learn it all at once!
/ Is it just me, or is this just fucking offensive? It seems to not only conflate gay men with paedophiles, but also to posit sexual abuse as something a child can consent to or refuse as the fancy takes them./
It seems to in your fucking world. But it is not.
Since I do I think I am allowed to joke about my own childhood and the many men in it who would have hoped for more success. But if you disagree, you're welcome to. And thanks for being presumptuous because there's only men and women in the world? Ever fucking heard the term transgender? And if I don't fancy men, surely I am falling within the binary and must be the dominant heterosexual!
Do you have an LGBT sticker on your office door too?
Is there a difference between gay men and paedophiles? Why don't you go ask someone who has a problematic response to that question, so you can feel wonderful about yourself.
Are we enjoying this childish interrogation game now? Do I have to infantalise you or is looking like an idiot sufficient?
/ Um, as much as I'm opposed to American activities in Iraq, and as much as I appreciate the deleterious impact of sanctions on the people of that nation pre-Gulf War II, I find the idea that the Iraqi population was 'on their feet fine' under Saddam utterly, utterly abhorent./
Oh yeah? Have you lived under a dictatorship? Funnily enough I have! Have you grown up in/lived in poverty in a underdeveloped country? Or do you prefer the term, third world?
The comment was about how relatively better things were in a country, that in spite of its dictator, at least didn't have the death toll it has had since and the social, economic, political collapse we have seen. Perhaps in your world that means, Come back Saddam all's forgiven! If you're not with us, you're against us! They hate us for our freedom! Mission accomplished!
/At best, this comment lacks subtlety and texture, at worst, it is utterly offensive to i) the memory of victims and survivors of actual genocide and ii) military personnel who have joined up and remain enlisted because of any number of non-genocide-hungry factors, from poverty to wanting to make (however naively or misguidedly) what they might regard as a 'positive difference'./
While I appreciate your terribly penetrative insight that has not only thrown me off and made reconsider the entire linguistic framework of my "dialogic" operations....regarding the "subtlety and texture" of that statement, perhaps you might need to recognise that provocative statements rarely do have a constitution of texture and subtlety. That being said, could you explain how entire groups of people, entire ethnicities being bombed to fucking bits and killed indiscriminately and "accidentally" in war is significantly different from a genocide?
"Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction of an ethnic, religious or national group."
I suppose that the civilian casualty in Iraq was more like mowing grass for the military eh? The argument can be made that there are quite different ethnic and religious groups in Iraq. The yanks knew that going in, didn't they? Oh wait...
They didn't. They didn't even bother hiring a fucking competent anthropologist. Or a moral philosopher for that matter.
As far as the military goes. I'm terribly sorry but my heart does bleed for the poor and misguided folk who a) joined the military or b) joined the mafia.
Though I think the mafia pays better and probably does not have a repulsive faux moral core.
Oh another of one my gross and disgusting comparisons! After all, the fact that the intentions of the members MUST BE more relevant and reflective than the actual mundane, the mortal consequences and the approach of the parent organisation. Surely, the military does good just like the extremist terrorist organisations that have poor sods in it who are indoctrinated and do think they're making a "positive difference." And to reiterate yet again, I would know. I used to be an extremist muslim. So why don't you shed a little tear for the 9/11 terrorists and terrorists in general. Let's share our sympathies, now shall we? Certainly, it does not trivialise the victims of attacks by sharing our tears for those who inflict them. Oh before it occurs to you, I'm not ahistorical and I have a reasonable grasp on the history of Islamism and the western moral guilt and culpability in its creation but that's a discussion I do not have the time for. Disagree if you like. And the socoiological, political and religious factors that are profoundly persuasive in the decision making of the "terrorists." If you weren't such a shit, I might have enjoyed having a discussion about free will, determinism, compatibilism, agency and consciousness.
But you are.
Do you consider agency at any point? Or the notion that there is such a thing culpability and accomplices? How about being complicit in moral guilt for your involvement in a war?
/Dude, if one of my students misused that word repeatedly to me ('dialogic' is, FYI, an adjective - were you of, pertaining to, or characterised by dialogue?) I'd get a little grumpy too./
Thank you. While I understood, used the term fine but perhaps out of either comprehension difficulties or some other issues, you seem to have misunderstood and decided that a english lesson was necessary. But don't stop there, it's justifiable grumpiness. Here's an idea...
Why don't we have another colonisation, just in case no Englishman (or English speaker) is unsatisfied with how his language is used by colonised people.
/Let's think about what will happen if you, after much effort, get this man - who from what you have told us is, if not a racist in an active white-suprematist kind way, then at least grossly unaware of his own privilege and of the effect his employment of language and notions of free speech might impact on others - fired. He will lose his current livelihood, something that will also be felt by any dependents he might have. I very much doubt that this will cause him to change his ways - indeed, it might only confirm them (can't you just hear, even now, him muttering about 'PC gone mad'?), and thus make things all the worse for anybody who might be taught by him in the future at another, perhaps more right-leaning, institution. The impact on your school will most likely be an increased fear among the faculty of managerial / legal censure or action, which is not quite the same thing as a culture change in which racist language and practices are postively and actively eradicated in the teaching staff by the teaching staff. Just saying. /
You've raised an excellent point. After every single thing I told him, every single attempt made to point out the power difference, the moral responsibilities involved, the racism, his dictation of what I ought to feel and what ought to offend me (me just being pakistani and simple direct attacks on pakistanis are the only thing that warrant offence), what constitutes as racism/hate speech and what doesn't, let's simply have him continue his monologue. Let's have him continue to create a safe space for white people airing out their prejudices and their racism. Who cares if that creates a hostile and oppressive environment for people of colour. They should be thankful slavery's over! So let's have that while people of colour have to listen and cant challenge that. After all he made it clear that I am "going to be marginalised" and it is a "white institution" and he is "a white man." I only need to, according to him "look around. everyone's white" in the most destructive and demeaning tone. Let's have more people of colour internalise this discourse and be further demeaned after me. People who have no idea how wrong this is and probably will just accept it.
Do we have another time-lapse activist on our hands?
I think so.
While I'm indulging you, would you mind telling if you're a person of colour? Have you ever been affected by racism?
/I agree that the tutor in question has acted foolishly, and appears to hold and to propagate very unexamined views on history and race. As Stoatie has said: 'What a fucking cock'. I'm sorry that this guy has been so upsetting to you and other members of your college community, and this obviously needs addressing. In the meantime, good luck, and try not to be a (comparatively tiny) cock yourself./
Oh fuck off. It's fucking people like you who need racism 101 too. Cock doesn't cut it. Don't bring Stoatie into this, I doubt that's all he meant. But you sure did.
p.s. comparatively tiny cock?
oh, if i were as thick as you...
but wait, i am young! i ought to be offended. |
