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Quantum
13:10 / 12.06.07
Okay, this thread for bad science in the occult/new age, the idea is one-upmanship on the most nonsensical bollocks you can find. Beat this -

G**** B***** is currently traveling around the United States and in the media, telling of the scientific proof of the Earth passing through the Photon Belt and the slowing of the Earths rotation. At the same time there is an increase in the resonant frequency of the Earth (Schumann Resonance). When the Earth stops its rotation and the resonance frequency reaches 13 cycles we will be at a zero point magnetic field. The Earth will be stopped, and in 2 or 3 days it will start turning again in the opposite direction. This will produce a reversal in the magnetic fields around the earth and so forth.

When does the Earth spontaneously reverse direction of spin due to passing through the Photon Belt? That's right! 2012!

I should say, just because one idiot tries to justify something occult with crap science bollocks doesn't necessarily invalidate the idea or practice. This thread is to highlight the deceptive rhetoric of idiots who think saying 'magnetic resonance' will blind you with science, not to denigrate the magical practice of others.
 
 
power vacuums & pure moments
13:22 / 12.06.07
One of the important purposes of my practice is to focus on helping a specific group of people, called Indigo children, awaken to realizing their own true reasons for incarnating here and then quickly removing their blockages by doing these sessions. By rapidly and easily freeing their consciousness, DNA template, and spiritual identity from unnatural energetic blockages and energy "vampires", to reclaim Chistiac self-sovereignty over their personal 15th dimensional anatomy, and perform the DNA bio-regenesis necessary for eventual complete bodily merkabic ascension. If you STRONGLY resonate with the information on my website and feel that this is the reason you are here, then you are probably an Indigo and there is no coincidence that we've come in contact with each other

www.dnaperfection.com
 
 
Quantum
13:24 / 12.06.07
Ooh, good one!
 
 
Papess
13:39 / 12.06.07
I am not even sure if this is right or wrong, but the claims are fantastic:

Vibration Math is a new Cosmic version of Mathematics. It is the Math of the Cosmic Creative Forces Vibrations - the same Creative Forces man has renamed "GOD"! Man unwittingly took the word God from the Greek language and used it to label the Creative Forces as being "God". For this, and other reasons, Vibration Math is often called The MATH of GOD! Vibration Math encompasses, but is not restricted to, the laws, principles and limitations of 3rd dimensional assumptive Math taught in educational systems throughout the Earth. Vibration Math is NOT a theory. It is a NEW version of Creative Mathematics that applies to ALL Creative Forces Vibrations that create, comprise, manifest and express the three Cosmologies - the Spirit (anti-matter) Immortal Realms, the Immortal Hades Realms and the Mortal Material Realms. Vibration Math makes it possible to precisely pinpoint, identify and reveal the nature, meaning, marching orders, evolutionary status and purpose of any and all Creative Force Vibrations comprising any and all tangible and intangible creations existing in mental, physical and spiritual regions of mortal and immortal octaves of Consciousness. This includes the subtle Creative Force Energy vibes that comprise YOUR conscious awareness that is now gathering and processing the information you now read via the creative force vibrations comprising your mental faculties and sense of sight. Vibration Math is a kind of mathematics that makes it possible to gather hitherto unobtainable information, to understand the vibrant nature, meaning and predictable marching orders of any and all Radiant and Magnetic Creative Force Vibrations, the nature of material, mental and spiritual manifestations that exist and express as different forms of Creative Forces creations. New Vibration Math provides a way for us to understand the Creative Forces (God) in terms of vibration rates, numbers, colors, symbols and astro-logic to the degree we can clearly comprehend and master the "Language of The Gods" - the vibrant "body language" of the Creative Forces Vibrations - a truly Cosmic and Universal language. Vibration Math Principles, appropriately applied, reveal the nature and structure of the Universe, the mystery of God and all creations, including our very own selves. The Creative Forces Vibrations are Us! Vibration Math is destined to become the "Mother of all earth math"and the basis of all earth sciences! No education can be considered to be a complete, total education, if it does not include a good working knowledge and know-how application of the Principles of Vibration Math and Vibration Math Sciences.

From Vibration Math

Don't forget to read: Vibration Science!

Vibration Math Sciences would not be sciences if they could not be built upon - supported and validated by - a solid foundation of Vibration Math. This scientific base now makes it possible for an infinite number of new Vibration Sciences to be created, sciences YOU can create, sciences that will evolve human awareness from Past-Age energy levels of "I wonder", "conjecture", "notion", "false belief", "ignorance" and "blind faith" into the Aquarian Age, 21st Century mode - "I Know!" Scientific analysis and synthesis is now possible via CREATIVE FORCES VIBRATIONS!

I am not very good at the maths, but what the...?
 
 
trouser the trouserian
13:42 / 12.06.07
Man's various forces and qualities, manifesting in his bodies as vibrations, send out for each vehicle what may be called a keynote. Take his astral body as an example. From the number of different vibrations which are habitual to that astral body there emerges a sort of average tone, which we may call the keynote of this man on the astral plane. It is obviously conceivable that there may be a considerable number of ordinary men whose astral keynote is practically the same, so that this alone would not suffice to distinguish them with certainty. But there is a similar average tone for each man's mental body, for his causal body, and even for the etheric part of his physical body; and there have never yet been found two persons whose keynotes were identical at all these levels, so as to make exactly the same chord when struck simultaneously. Therefore the chord of each man is unique, and furnishes a means by which he can always be distinguished from the rest of the world. Among millions of primitive savages there may possibly be cases where development is as yet so slight that the chords are scarcely clear enough for the differences between them to be observed, but with any of the higher races there is never the least difficulty, nor is there any risk of confusion."
The Mystic Chord Charles W Leadbeater

Italics mine.
 
 
Ticker
13:57 / 12.06.07
oooh trouser bagged the mystical plasma rascism crossover, nice!
 
 
Quantum
14:08 / 12.06.07
That's a nasty one, but I think Justrix has a potential winner there with -
Vibration Math makes it possible to precisely pinpoint, identify and reveal the nature, meaning, marching orders, evolutionary status and purpose of any and all Creative Force Vibrations comprising any and all tangible and intangible creations existing in mental, physical and spiritual regions of mortal and immortal octaves of Consciousness.
That's a special kind of wankery right there.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
15:21 / 12.06.07
Water stores and shares information from ALL SOURCES, both man-made and natural. Water then shares this 'Memory/information' with all living organisms. If this 'STORED' information/energy is not compatible with living organisms, then this 'Memory' can begin to distort the naturally developed communication between our DNA and our cells, the ensuing communication with the rest of the body, as well as communication with those energies in nature that we have naturally evolved with and REQUIRE to maintain equilibrium (Please see Articles for more information)*

WATER IS IN EFFECT 'CONSCIOUSNESS'

As water is replete in ALL things, if we can remove or reduce the influence of negative or potentially harmful 'MEMORIES/INFORMATION' in water then we can hopefully improve, within reason, practically everything that we consume and use upon our bodies. Additionally, as our physical body is primarily composed of water, we may be able to remove potentially harmful 'memories' - from whatever origin - and, therefore, improve, within reason, our internal communication, thus enhancing our Spiritual Awareness, the Health of OUR BIOPHYSICAL BODY, and consequently our physical wellbeing. By working through the process of cleansing the 'memory' in water (consciousness), we can also become proactive in helping to SPACE CLEAR and protect the environment where we live, sleep and work, from ALL FORMS of potentially HARMFUL ENERGIES

http://www.equilibrauk.com/sac.shtml

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Not particularly flashy, just your average UPPER CASE DRIVEL. Now, back to installing that H20 hard-drive.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
16:21 / 12.06.07
"The flash-line sequences within each dimension are unique to that Dimension and the Partiki Phasing within these flash-line sequences have what is called a specific Angular rotation of Particle Spin (ARPS). There is a 90-degree shift in ARPS between neighbouring Dimensions and a 45-degree shift between neighboring Densities. The 90-degree difference in ARPS between the three dimensional bands within a Density are key to creating the illusion of a 3-Dimensional Hologram and the illusion of linear time and space. The differing ARPS of neighbouring densities in addition to the Magnetic Repulsion Zones or Void Zones give the illusion that the Densities are separate, when in fact they are in the same space and time. The existence of these 3-Dimensional Holograms within the same space and time is often described as the Spheres within Spheres of Creation. "

from the explanation of The Structure of our Universe
 
 
trouser the trouserian
16:26 / 12.06.07
And from the same site as the last post:

"Human evolution is and always has been the process of Dimensional Ascension through Frequency Accretion. Through Keylontic Morphogenetic Science we can learn to guide and accelerate our evolutionary process from a conscious level, rather than allowing genetic distortions to control our evolutionary destiny."

sounds great, doesn't it?
 
 
Quantum
17:05 / 12.06.07
I wonder if we can get an automatic science drivel generator coded? Like the old Rage generator but for pseudoscience, it can't be that hard.

"Our 13 cycle zero point DNA template is 15th dimensional. The unnatural, tangible and harmful subtle Energy vibes are blockages that reclaim Chistiac self-sovereignty over the DNA bio-regenesis or synthesis via Photon Belt forces and qualities, manifesting as vibrations in the Spirit (anti-matter) Immortal Hades Realms and are necessary for eventual merkabic ascension.
Take electromagnetic CREATIVE FORCES VIBRATIONS as an example. From the number of different negative scientific proof of ENERGIES which are habitual to that astral body the evolutionary status of mental immortal octaves of Consciousness is proven.
It is obviously conceivable that there is never the least difficulty, nor is there any risk of confusion."
 
 
Quantum
17:07 / 12.06.07
Ooh, Trouser streaks into the lead past vibrational math with the excellent '90-degree shift in ARPS between neighbouring Dimensions' site, emphasising his lead with Keylontic Morphogenetic Science.
It's going to be a hard one to beat.
 
 
Papess
17:10 / 12.06.07
Yay! I can detect wankery!

How about this one?

Welcome to www.health-art.com where art and natural health are interwoven. This website is a major energy vortex and a gateway between the physical world and the highest spiritual dimensions. One day you will be glad that destiny had brought you here, but it is now that you will test your faith and belief systems. If you will, read carefully all the pages from beginning to end and once you leave planet earth's physical dimension you will be more than pleasantly surprised. Apart of what is manifest, there is a hidden message, hidden from your eyes and you can access it only if you read all the content of this site.

The part I bolded particularly disturbs me. But it is funny as hell. Actually, Hell is not that funny. Really, how exactly is that website "a major energy vortex"?

The Leadbeater quote is so disappointing. *sob*
 
 
Ticker
17:12 / 12.06.07
I have to admit my plasma seeking self really likes this page. It's got some sort of steam punk fetish of Tesla-like devices combined with radio ham operator glee.

You think I'm kidding about being tempted to buy one?
Dude it would be fabo with a theramin attachment!

PRINCIPLES OF RADIONICS

The principles of present-day radionics were laid down by the American doctor, Dr Albert Abrams (1863-1924). In the context of his work into differentiation between various symptoms by means of an automatic reflex movement of the stomach of a patient detected by percussion. He discovered an empirically defined arrangement of variable resistances (potentiometer). In this context, the patient was connected via a forehead electrode to the “input” of a variable resistance box. At the “output”, a healthy person was connected, also via a forehead electrode (Test person). On the abdomen of the test person, it was now possible to diagnose the pathology of the patient on the basis of settings of the decade resistance by means of the special knock reflex.

It was not until later that Abrams found that it was not even necessary for the patient himself to be present. It was adequate for him to be replaced by a blood sample (as a “specimen” or “proof”). This specimen was poured into a metal cup which (in place of the patient) was connected to the “Input” of the variable resistance box.


Sign me up! I wanna be Dr. Potentiometer! fuck it I already changed my ficsuit name for the month...oh well...

This picture really sold me:



To be serious for a minute there is something really great about appropriating pieces of science/technology for what is essentially non scientific fetish use of Science's power.

An Unknown Armies' (RPG) excellent fictional example via Hateboxing
 
 
Ticker
17:18 / 12.06.07
Really, how exactly is that website "a major energy vortex"?

see I knew playing in this thread was going to get me in trouble...I freely admit many of my dearly held views probably sound like quackery and possibly are. Feel free to scoff.

That website I can't speak about but some websites are set up as energy focal points. Just like roadside shrines and major temples or like sigils and mandalas. Some of them do connect people and pool/focus collective workings. Some are complete crap too so YMMV.
 
 
Quantum
17:21 / 12.06.07
Ha, I think I've found a strong contender;

This mental mass (condensed energy), acts as an additional resistance or lack of resistance to the flow of electrical energy from the E-Meter. In Scientology it has been discovered that mental energy is simply a finer, higher level of physical energy. The test of this is conclusive in that a thetan "mocking up" (creating) mental image pictures and thrusting them into the body can increase the body mass and by casting them away again can decrease the body mass. This test has actually been made and an increase of as much as thirty pounds, actually measured on scales, has been added to, and subtracted from, a body by creating "mental energy." Energy is energy. Matter is condensed energy."

Check out the cherry on top;

The newest model is the Mark VII Super Quantum E-meter.

Twenty-two days until I change my name my friends, only twenty two days.
 
 
Quantum
17:25 / 12.06.07
XK, I think that site might fall under the 'bollocks' category unless it really is "a gateway between the physical world and the highest spiritual dimensions." Remember, "once you leave planet earth's physical dimension you will be more than pleasantly surprised".

Presumably the highest spiritual dimensions are surprisingly full of cake and beer.
 
 
Papess
17:32 / 12.06.07
XK, that "Hateboxing" link gave me knots in my tummy. I feel like I need a purification ritual, and possibly aother shower.

Interesting idea. Not reccommended.
 
 
Ticker
17:52 / 12.06.07
Quants I think you are correct about the site but higher DIMMS are most certainly full of CHOCOLATE cake...and possibly beer.

'Trix, I'm sorry if the link distressed you it is however a Role Playing Game example rather than IRL. (though UA has some of the best RPG examples of magical techniques I've ever seen.)


I was thinking about the idea of the radionics and other mutant offspring of Science. In some traditions using a relic of a holy being as a healing/magical tool in its own right is acceptable. However because Science seeks to dismiss those forms of mystical (and read not clearly understood) effects it is a form of blasphemy and extreme heresy. Sometimes it can get quite absurd when you consider what is accepted and what is not is not always based on the effectiveness to cure.

Don't think I'm saying Science is bad but rather I have more room for little 's' science that is constantly growing and inclusive. When faced with a cure from a proccess outside the canon it should expand to discover the mechanics rather then simply insist it didn't happen at all.

Which reminds me do we have a crappy application of quantum mechanics in this thread yet? The peoples, they love to misapply that one.
 
 
Quantum
17:57 / 12.06.07
For a very long time before the fall in consciousness, the Lemurians lived in a fifth dimensional frequency or dimension, and were able to switch back and forth from fifth to third at will, without any problem. It could be done whenever it was desired, by intension and the energies of the heart.

Icke's got to be on the leaderboard as a classic.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
18:04 / 12.06.07
Finally, lost in the mouldy reaches of the underneath net I struck gold.

Now, I knew about gold, that lush metal that never becomes me. But Monatomic gold was new. The kind people over at S&D Business Services that would like to sell me this evolution superfood have this to say about their fantastic new product:

Evolution is totally natural nutritional supplement which contains large amounts of naturally occurring Monatomic Gold, provided from the very best organic ingredients. It is also cram packed with all the nutrients necessary to encourage and promote superior health and is the only product of its kind available today. When you add Evolution to your diet you are supplying your body with large amounts of health-giving Monatomic Elements plus antioxidants, amino acids, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, and chlorophyll with no effort or major change in your diet or lifestyle. That's priceless in today's hectic world!

Huh. I've seen those metal-eaters on telly, one guy ate a small aeroplane, I believe he said. Guess he couldn't afford the real deal.

And another chap over here, a Mr. David Hudson, has all sorts of wonderful knowledge about monatomic gold, as well as other monatomic elements like white powder platinum. He sells these 1 ounce bottles of the stuff out of Chattanooga, TN for a mere, and I hasten to add this seems a trifle when the benefit and the cost are arranged as a ratio, $129.99 (+ $10 for shipping) for a 1 ounce bottle. Here's what his special mix will do for us:

White Powder Triad is a combination of 40% White Powder Gold, 40% White Powder Platinum, and 20% White Powder Lightning. The objective being, to create a product which gives the benefits of our White Powder Gold, (spiritual, physical and metaphysical), our White Powder Platinum, (psychological, physical, and mental), and our White Powder Lightning, (advance prevention).

Theoretically, with the benefit of assistance correcting DNA (White Powder Gold), the benefit of assistance balancing the brain waves in the right and left hemisphere of the brain (White Powder Platinum) and the benefit of assistance in elevating the immune system (White Powder Lightning), White Powder Triad may be the answer to total human wellness, spiritually, mentally, physically, psychologically and emotionally.


And, pray tell, what is monatomic gold?

The ORME -- related to Star Fire, and also known as The Philosopher’s Stone, the Elixir of Life, the White Powder of Gold, Ma-na or Manna -- is also an acronym for “Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements”. The phrase was coined by David Radius Hudson, who has done an enormous amount of research on the subject (of which he has in turn shared with thousands of others). The word ORME -- perhaps coincidentally, or perhaps not -- is the same as the Hebrew word which means: the “Tree of Life”.

The ORME represents a huge subject area, involving state-of-the-art chemistry, physics, and physiology, interpretations of Sumerian, Egyptian and other histories (the Anunnaki, Gods and Goddesses of the Ancient World, the Adams Family, “Prime Directive” Violations, Chronicles of Earth, etc), philosophy, Sacred Geometry, the Tree of Life and Ha Qabala -- to name only the more obvious connections. In many respects, the ORME is the connecting link between all of these subjects -- as well as a whole list of other subjects not mentioned.

The Chemistry and Physics of Monoatomic Elements, describes the characteristics of those elements which have come to be known as the “Precious Metals”. These eight metals include: ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, and silver (known as the “light platinum group”), osmium, iridium, platinum, and gold (known as the “heavy platinum group”).

These eight Transition Group elements, can in a monoatomic, superdeformed, high spin, and low energy state, lose their chemical reactivity and metallic nature -- thereby resulting in a state of Superconductivity -- a resonant condition complete with Meissner magnetic field(s), Cooper Pairs, and electrons which have literally changed into light (i.e. photons). These precious metals have the unique ability to remain stable in the monoatomic form, which can then lead to effects ranging from Levitation (weight losses) to Zero-Point Energy applications to fundamental biological and/or human physiological effects.


I do hope it goes well with my chicken pizza.
 
 
Quantum
18:06 / 12.06.07
(offtopic- "UA has some of the best RPG examples of magical techniques I've ever seen" *cough*Mage*cough*)

We got your Crap Quantum Mechanics right here!
 
 
Quantum
18:15 / 12.06.07
Wow, Nolte, I think you've struck crap science gold!
The word ORME -- perhaps coincidentally, or perhaps not -- is the same as the Hebrew word which means: the “Tree of Life”.
So the Hebrew Otz Chaim means monatomic chicken pizza presumably.
 
 
Ticker
18:19 / 12.06.07
I keep waiting to spot one of my pet theories pop up in this thread like a bad personal ad unearthed to mock the lonely heart longings of online goth girls.

"Plasmamatronics": I propose that Plasma will confribulate when extremely cold. To demonstrate this I will perform an experiment using cat butt and lady's glove.

I findz a toi!

oooh dangerous toi!
 
 
EvskiG
18:26 / 12.06.07
The word ORME -- perhaps coincidentally, or perhaps not -- is the same as the Hebrew word which means: the "Tree of Life".

Like hell it is.

Especially since, as Quantum noted, the Hebrew term actually consists of two words.
 
 
EvskiG
18:30 / 12.06.07
Meridians are the pathways of qi (chi) and blood flow through the body. Qi flows continuously from one meridian to another. Any break in the flow is an indication of imbalance. If a person's vitality or energy is recognizably diminished it is an indication that the body's organs or tissues are functioning poorly, therefore the qi flow is inadequate.

. . .

The great value of Reiki is that because it is guided by the Higher Intelligence, it knows exactly where to go and how to respond to restrictions in the flow of Ki. It can work directly in the unconscious parts of the mind/body which contain negative Ki-inhibiting thoughts and feelings and eliminate them. As Reiki flows through a sick or unhealthy area, it breaks up and washes away any negative thoughts or feelings lodged in the unconscious mind/body thus allowing a normal healthy flow of Ki to resume. As this happens, the unhealthy physical organs and tissues become properly nourished with Ki and begin functioning in a balanced healthy way thus replacing illness with health.


Are these or are these not examples of bad science?
 
 
Closed for Business Time
18:35 / 12.06.07
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO don't ask that question?! Not the meta-science debate! Not in our TEMPLE!
 
 
Quantum
18:37 / 12.06.07
Not bad science. There's not enough sciencey words to count.
 
 
Quantum
18:44 / 12.06.07
Compare to "We're living in a world where all we see is the tip of the iceberg. The immense tip of a quantum mechanical iceberg." from that Bleeping film.
 
 
Ticker
19:13 / 12.06.07
Also I'm sort of the mind this thread is geared more toward picking on a system's PR style hijacking of scientific terminology rather than a serious critique of the technique itself.

I mean c'mon, all the mystical systems are often couched in crap metaphor and vagaries.
 
 
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19:20 / 12.06.07
It's one thing for practitioners to say "We don't know how it works; we've noticed lower electrical resistance along the energy meridians/we think maybe it's something to do with magnetism" and another to say "(even though we have no idea how it really works)It's ELECTROMAGNETICS! Look, blood has iron in it! Monatomic iron! QUANTUM!" I would like to say that a system that is reputable has no need for unscrupulous practitioners to be lying about how it works, or lying about how much they know about how it works. Unfortunately, even the most authoritative medical models have that problem. So ideally I'd avoid the specific practitioners who lie about how things work in favor of the ones who admit they don't know, or explain things in terms of their own system with no more than tenuous analogies to others, or show me the supporting evidence and admit its limitations.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
19:26 / 12.06.07
XK, some truth in that it's more about hijacking than technique in some of the posts, but, aren't several of these merely outright scams? Like the monatomic gold powder food batgunk. 129 dolares for n'ounce please yessiree. Uh-uh. No technique except that of a salesman, and a potentially dangerous one at that.

Others, especially the stuff that focuses on energy, vibrations and transgalactic migration patterns of DNA sounds to my non-practioner's eye (erm) more like, channeling perhaps, a sort of UFO/Illuminati mediumism clad in neo-Theosophist dress and with the mindset of a pop psychologist.
 
 
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19:38 / 12.06.07
Well, yeah. Acupuncture and reiki are both energy models, though, and while I don't know a lot about reiki I know a lot about acupuncture, and the energy model seems to work and fits with my experiences. I've seen it get good results. Those results might be for another reason, but the energy model is the one that best fits the facts as I've experienced them.
 
 
Quantum
19:42 / 12.06.07
...and (crucially for me) acupuncturists don't feel a need to try and use western scientific models to validate their practice. Not that there is an Eastern scientific model but you know what I mean.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
19:46 / 12.06.07
True, they are energy models, and there seems to be some good published studies out there that adhere to scientific gold standards and still give answers that are puzzling in the present state of biomedicinal sciences, at least for acupuncture. And to my non-physicist eyes and brain, some of the explanatory models developed in biophysics (I'm thinking of Wae-Man Hoe at the Open University/ISIS, least for now) seem to have some grounding in the mainstream, if that's an issue.
 
  

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