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School shooting at Virginia Tech

 
  

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STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
11:00 / 05.05.07
I guess it was kind of inevitable- when I was a kid I was really into Car Wars, and we'd spend hours recreating our school (on paper maps, obv, it was the Dark Ages) for the purpose of having bike chases and shootouts. Not only do I hate guns, but I can't ride a motorbike, either. These days I'll bet there are millions of kids with CounterStrike (or any other FPS you care to mention) maps of their schools.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
14:10 / 06.05.07
It now seems you can get into trouble and fired from your job for being overheard talking about buying a gun (on the day of the Virginia Tech shootings), and then investigated as a terroristic threat if you draw a webcomic about it.

More links at Slashdot.
 
 
alas
18:00 / 07.05.07
The summary now reads: School shooting at Virginia Tech is deadliest mass murder in U.S. history.

I know it's just been changed to move the gun control debate, but I'd like to see it revised, again. It's just patently untrue: the worst mass murders in US history were white vigilantes acting against Native people and black people:

Here's a good overview from"Third Estate Sunday Review" from April 22:

There's no sense in the media making the Virginia Tech massacres any worse than they were -- the death toll was horrifying enough on its own of course. But most outlets seems to want to do just that. CBS Evening News' anchor Katie Couric called it the deadliest shooting in US history. NBC reporter Ann Curry called it the deadliest mass shooting in US history. By historical standards such statements are just incorrect. The 1873 Colfax Massacre of Black militia soldiers during Reconstruction left an estimated 105 dead. The Sand Creek Massacre of Cheyenne had a comparable death toll. Wounded Knee was a massacre of about 300. The 1921 killings in Tulsa, Oklahoma, killings of African-Americans in what is often referred to as the Black Wall Street left dozens dead and so on. If that might not strike you as media seeming to make things worse then consider NBC's decision to air the video messages of the Virginia Tech killer who had mailed the network the materials before he embarked upon part of his killing spree. ..."-- Peter Hart, of Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting, in the headlines sections of CounterSpin (FAIR's radio show) which began airing last Friday.. (I couldn't find it when I tried to link, but the point stands)

And here's a "Native Perspective on Virginia Tech Headlines" that makes much the same point:

"The worst in U.S. history." Really? It is certainly the worst shooting on a college campus in modern U.S. history. But if we think it is the worst shooting rampage in U.S. history, then we are a singularly uneducated nation.

"I can't take one more of these headlines," said Joan Redfern, a member of the Lakota Sioux tribe who lives in Hollister. We met at First Street Coffee to talk while we scanned Internet stories. "Haven't any of these people ever heard of the Massacre at Sand Creek in Colorado, where Methodist minister Col. Chivington massacred between 200 and 400 Cheyenne and Arapaho Indians, most of them women, children, and elderly men?"

Chivington specifically ordered the killing of children, and when he was asked why, he said, "Kill and scalp all, big and little; nits make lice."

At Wounded Knee Creek in South Dakota, the U.S. 7th Cavalry attacked 350 unarmed Lakota Sioux on December 29, 1890. While engaged in a spiritual practice known as the "Ghost Dance," approximately 90 warriors and 200 women and children were killed. Although the attack was officially reported as an "unjustifiable massacre" by Field Commander General Nelson A. Miles, 23 soldiers were awarded the Medal of Honor for the slaughter. The unarmed Lakota men fought back with bare hands. The elderly men and women stood and sang their death songs while falling under the hail of bullets. Soldiers stripped the bodies of the dead Lakota, keeping their ceremonial religious clothing as souvenirs.

To say the Virginia shooting is the worst in all of U.S. history is to pour salt on old wounds-it means erasing and forgetting all of our ancestors who were killed in the past," Redfern said. "The use of hyperbole and lack of historical perspective seems all too ubiquitous in much of the current mainstream media," Redfern said. "My intention is not to downplay the horror of what has happened this week in any way. But we have a 500-year history of mass shootings on American soil, and let's not forget it."

This is only the most recent mass shooting massacre in a long history of mass shootings in a country engaged in a long love affair with firearms and very little interest in gun control.

Let's not forget our history and the richness of our Native roots. While spending time on the 1.5 million acre Hopi Reservation in Arizona, I met families living in homes they have occupied for over 900 years. On the surface, it looks like a third world country: you will observe many homes without running water, travel unpaved roads, and notice that there are no building codes. But sitting in a Hopi home being served a delicious lunch cooked by a proud Hopi working mother, I experienced so much more: the continuity of a long and deep heritage, a sense of the sacred, an artistic expertise, and wisdom about many things that remain a mystery to my culture.

Most of all, may we never forget all those innocent civilian men, women, and children who lost their lives simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, just as the students happened to be this week in Virginia. May we always remember the precious humanity of these students, but may we also never forget the humanity of those who lost their lives simply for being born people Native to this country.


When a white institution experiences violence, particularly violence at the hands of a "brown" person, we are aghast, shocked, at levels that do simply make more galling our lack of shock, our expectation of violence in black neighborhoods and instituitons, or in "brown" countries--particularly the violence caused by white colonizers like the US government in a country like Iraq. We "expect" violence there, so we're not appalled.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
00:38 / 08.05.07
Propose a request, alas. I'll agree it (not sure when that got changed anyway).
 
 
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01:30 / 08.05.07
Thanks for those links, as well. They are invaluable reading.
 
 
grant
01:49 / 08.05.07
I just stuck a request for a change in myself.

As thread starter, I may have written the summary myself, but I honestly don't remember the current wording (except noticing that it looked wrong because it should be "campus shooting" not "mass murder"). It was a strange day.

That said, I'm uncomfortable with the idea that VTech was the same thing as what happened at Wounded Knee, since the one was based on a systematic policy, and the other was one person with guns who passed some kind of breaking point -- but the language becomes tricky around that. "Mass murder" has both a specific meaning (I think from law enforcement psychological profiling) and a general meaning (from mass+murder). Need more better words.
 
 
grant
02:15 / 08.05.07
Weird: the deadliest ("spree killing"?) mass murder by an individual took place in April 1982 in South Korea. Frustrated cop Woo Bum-kon went door to door killing citizens.
 
 
alas
14:39 / 08.05.07
That said, I'm uncomfortable with the idea that VTech was the same thing as what happened at Wounded Knee, since the one was based on a systematic policy, and the other was one person with guns who passed some kind of breaking point -- but the language becomes tricky around that. "Mass murder" has both a specific meaning (I think from law enforcement psychological profiling) and a general meaning (from mass+murder). Need more better words.

While I see the distinction you're drawing, I think that's the basic point of those columns: when news columnists use the term mass murder for these killings they ARE eliding that history entirely, and pretty much negating it. We need to be reminded of it.

I'm interested in the desire, almost the need, to label these events the "___est" thing in "US History" (still in the summary). I wonder if it's that at some level we can't discuss something that's "big" to us unless we can categorize it as "the biggest." We need to scream for the attention. There's something going on there--something like what Steven Sondheim's exploring in Assassins that strikes me as needing more analysis, esp. a feminist, postcolonial analysis...
 
 
grant
15:54 / 08.05.07
I think Assassins is probably treading some of the same ground as The Copycat Effect (the Loren Coleman book I mentioned earlier). I've never heard of the musical -- I'll have to look it up.

Something competitive about the spectacle, definitely, although the "most" is always the thing that's worthy of recording.

And speaking of copycats, there's just been a shooting at Cal State Fresno.
 
 
Quantum
16:14 / 08.05.07
23 soldiers were awarded the Medal of Honor for the (Ghost Dance) slaughter

*gapes* blimey.
 
 
grant
17:08 / 08.05.07
Perhaps you should read about the life and presidency of Andrew Jackson, the fellow who's on our $20 bills. He's the architect of the Indian Removal policy.

Wounded Knee, viewed in that context, was just sort of mopping up after about 75 years of massacres. You will never read The Wizard of Oz the same way again.

That's the fundamental difference I was talking about -- Wounded Knee was socially sanctioned. It was what the "rules" were designed to do, more or less. Remove Indians. Even cuddly children's book authors saw them as necessary. Campus shootings and related single-shooter mass murders (although some are done by more than one person) are outside of that kind of social sanction.

Hmm. Although possibly part of the same kind of spectacularizing....
 
 
alas
02:47 / 09.05.07
Absolutely--the genocidal attacks on black communities by white vigilante groups were also "socially sanctioned" although technically illegal...They were socially sanctioned because black people and Indians were viewed as not having any rights that white people were required to respect.

Black spaces and Indian territories are singularly penetrable, transgressable by white people, but the reverse--non-whites entering into white "territories" is still and has virtually always been defined as criminal in and of itself, and it makes them particularly vulnerable to violence at white hands. (Think about the term "illegals" for illegal immigrants).

As does simply staying in "their own" spaces.

(I'd argue that the same logic of race and penetration has shaped the criminality of rape, etc., in this country. And these things are at work in this VA tech story, I'd wager.)
 
 
grant
15:06 / 10.05.07
Brain imaging detects common brain patterns in sociopaths.

This Technology Review story leads off the VTech shootings, the implication being that Cho's brain would probably have shown the same anomalies on fMRI scans.

When normal people view these images, fMRI scans light up to indicate heavy brain activity in sections of the emotion-generating limbic system, primarily the amygdala, which is believed to generate feelings of empathy. But in psychopathic patients, these sections of the amygdala remain dark, showing greatly reduced activity or none at all. This phenomenon, known as limbic underactivation, may indicate that some of these people lack the ability to generate the basic emotions that keep primitive killer instincts in check.

"Limbic underactivation" is still a controversial concept -- some people think the amygdala doesn't have as much to do with actions as many would like to believe. It has more to do with suppressing emotional response -- some people with limbic underactivation become firefighters.

And some killers aren't sociopathic in the normal sense of the word:
Thomas Lewis, a psychiatrist who has extensively studied the research on psychopathy and who specializes in the neurochemistry of depression at the University of California, San Francisco, describes an extraordinarily rare condition in which a nonpsychopathic person can become a "rampage killer." This individual starts out severely depressed, traumatized, and suicidal, a condition that could be caused by anything from genetics to a brain tumor. Then some perceived crisis causes him or her to snap and go on a killing spree before taking his or her own life. "It's kind of like throwing a temper tantrum--only with automatic weapons," says Lewis.

The "brain tumor" is probably a reference to Charles Whitman. (Go Crusaders!)
 
  

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