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Alex's Grandma
04:56 / 18.05.07
grant;

Have you ever drunk ...

I shouldn't say this ...

But,
 
 
Alex's Grandma
04:56 / 18.05.07
grant;

Have you ever drunk ...

I shouldn't say this ...

But,
 
 
Alex's Grandma
05:00 / 18.05.07
Have you ever drunk a caribou's psychedelic blessing?!!

(It's ok if you haven't)
 
 
astrojax69
05:08 / 18.05.07
has anyone else heard of natural sequence farming?

it uses the natural landscape to reallocate the water in an environment (obviously it is best suited to dry landscapes) and filter it and distribute sediment back into the natural water flows. saw it on tele last night - having heard about it from several sources with never chasing it up - and the farm of this guy was wondrous; green, creek with water and vegetation, while just beyond the fence of his neighbour showed a degraded paddock and muddy barren swathe where his creek would be...
 
 
Sibelian 2.0
13:11 / 18.05.07
grant

Soggy, pretty soggy, were the poppy seedlings, as per my silly father's advice, which, in hindsight, was unwise. They had successfully self sown in a crack in the sun-baked concrete in the car-park outside.

Perhaps I shall have one more go...
 
 
grant
02:34 / 19.05.07
Have you ever drunk a caribou's psychedelic blessing?!!

No, I'm afraid I haven't.

Down here, we just use goats.
 
 
rosie x
09:58 / 06.06.07
So... I am feeling very excited at the moment, because for the first time in my 5 years in England, I have a pretty little garden all of my own! It is very sweet. It faces east, so gets all the nice morning light. There is a little blue shed at the bottom of it, and a large healthy elder tree, which is now in bloom.

A good bit of the garden is lawn, but I've got a fairly large bed to go crazy with. It's in full sunlight, and probably measures 2' x 12' or so.

My question is: what grows well in England? The only gardens I've tended in the past have been in hot climates: I did well growing tomatoes, yams, peppers and other nightshades, silver queen corn and okra. I had a banana tree which thrived and gave me small, sweet bananas yearly. My basil was always fantastic; they probably grew to 3' or so. My best flowers were generally morning glories, hydrangea, lillies and delphinias.

I think I'd like to devote the bed to flowers and herbs; won't start from seed as it's too late in the season, but will get young plants from the local garden centre. What's traditional for an English garden? What grows well here? What plants are best suited to the British climate? And do I have any chance of getting good tomatoes and basil?

Any help much appreciated!
 
 
Quantum
10:49 / 06.06.07
Your tomatoes and basil will grow, but they'll be stunty little things compared to what you're used to unless you get a glass frame or greenhouse. Lots of herbs grow well (rosemary, thyme, tarragon, chives, parsley, sage, fennel, mint, rocket etc) and there are plenty of flowers to choose from. I'm way jealous of your large healthy elder tree, are you going to make elderflower cordial? Elderberry wine? You definitely should.
I'll ask my gardener for tips for you. What would you like most?
 
 
Quantum
11:12 / 06.06.07
Here's a site that might be useful English garden. The garden oracle says you probably want lavender and roses and jasmine, climbing nasturtions and sweet peas, your morning glories, hydrangea, lillies and delphinias will be alright but again won't thrive as much as they would in your hot garden, she says she'll look up some good lily varieties and such for you. Clematis, marigolds, irises, poppies, verbena, gladioli and snapdragons are traditional and grow well.
Lilium regale is the easiest lily to grow;



you might think about some pots in the garden too, try some Alliums like Purple Sensation;



Seedums are very low maintenance, drought resistant and attract ladybirds and other good bugs;



Hope that starts you off, there's plenty more advice available...
 
 
rosie x
14:39 / 06.06.07
Cheers Quantum! Your advice is more than a good start! I'm off to check out that gorgeous garden site right now...

Regarding the Elder tree... Dreams of elderflower cordial did cross my mind for a moment, but the blossoms are way too high up for me to reach. It's a very tall tree! If I had a 10 foot ladder, then I could probably *just* reach some on the very bottom of the tree. I'll have to be consoled with the shop-bought kind this summer. Oh well. Same for the berries, but at least those will be nice for the birds to enjoy.

I'm really loving this tree. I used to have an Elder in the back of my old place in East London. It was chopped down in 2004. Technically it was in the neighbour's garden, so there was little I could do but cry my eyes out. Shame on them...

But this tree is even nicer; enjoying it very much and looking forward to getting to know it better!
 
 
Sibelian 2.0
09:58 / 23.06.07
I have potted a whole bunch of geraniums (gerania?) and stuck 'em outside on top of the ivy-encrusted coal-bunker. It's raining buckets! BUCKETS! Will they drown? They should have enough drainage, I hope. They are muscular, happy things, generally, geraniums.

I've re-seeded those damn poppies one more time, even though it's really a little too late in the year. I'm sticking some outside and some inside as an experiment.

I stuck my sea dandelions outside as they were too infested with spider mites to live. They have since recovered magnificently and obviously really prefer the cold, rainy outdoor Scottish summer to a warm, dry Scottish indoor summer. They have started growing properly serrated hairy leaves.

My dwarf rose, which I had put outside and given up for dead from spider mite infestation, has put out dozens and dozens of new, red-rimmed, entirely uninfested leaves.

I bought some nasturtium seeds and planted them. They are shooting up like rockets.

Even the Spider Plant has come to appreciate my attentions and looks quite elegant.

Looking at all my little green children makes me feel marvellously refreshed and optimistic!
 
 
Quantum
12:12 / 23.06.07
Yay your dwarf rose!

I bought some nasturtium seeds and planted them. They are shooting up like rockets.

Plant some actual rocket and race them!
 
 
Sibelian 2.0
08:08 / 24.06.07
I have! It's losing.
 
 
Spaniel
16:54 / 10.07.07
Gardening folk, to me!

Okay, I want to cover or paint over, or generally do something to the paing stones in our garden to make them look better. Removing them simply isn't an option - really, it isn't! - anyone got any ideas? Cheap ideas = double plus good.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
16:57 / 10.07.07
Also, what is a good house-plant?
 
 
Spaniel
17:03 / 10.07.07
Yes, that too, but first PAVING!
 
 
Tsuga
23:14 / 10.07.07
What's wrong with your paving stones? Are they real stones or some kind of paver? Can't you even post a thumbnail, for KEG's sake?
 
 
Spaniel
11:12 / 11.07.07
They're real stones, and sadly, no, I can't post a picture as the digital camera is sans a connection lead at the moment.

There's nothing wrong with paving stones per se, it's just that they're a) hard, which isn't the best when you have a little'un, and b) ugly, which, well, just isn't ever the best. The hard we can live with as we've gone some way to childproofing the dangerous bit, the ugly we can't.

Come on the Hive Mind, do your thing!
 
 
Quantum
12:27 / 11.07.07
I hesitate to suggest decking. How about crazy paving- smash up the slabs and plant stuff in the cracks, or maybe rope mats or something.
How large is the paved area? Patio sort of size?
 
 
Saveloy
12:48 / 11.07.07
How are these stones laid out? Do they form a continuous path, or are they like stepping stones, or what?
 
 
grant
12:57 / 11.07.07
Well, the first thing I'd suggest is putting big pots on 'em and planting something like zinnias or impatiens in the pots. Actually, you're in England -- does lavender drape nicely out of a pot when it's happy? Like it's trying to be ground cover without ground to cover?

If that won't do, the other thing that comes to mind is getting a bunch of gravel and creating a Japanese garden-style path/dry creek bed. For maintenance's sake, you'll probably want to lay down some visquine or other plastic barrier first to keep weeds from popping up.

I created a kind of nice flower bed with a bunch of hexagonal paving stones using big pots on top and mulch-filled gaps between (into which I planted salvias,petunias & marigolds). But the chickens got into it and turned it into a wasteland.
 
 
Saveloy
13:06 / 11.07.07
Was it an atomic wasteland, grant?

That all sounds like a lot of hard work to me. I'd go for the SMASHING WITH HAMMERS option myself, Boboss. Alright, that's hard work too, but fun.
 
 
grant
13:16 / 11.07.07
Japanese garden ideas:
Different perspectives.

How to (with before and after shots).

This might be close to what you have.

More gardens.
 
 
grant
13:17 / 11.07.07
Japanese garden + atomic wasteland = CHIKINTORO! The Chicken Kaiju!
 
 
Spaniel
14:15 / 11.07.07
I guarantee that none of you would go for the smashing option. It was my first consideration, but the concrete goes far too deep (quite ridiculously so), and it would be far, far too much work, and would probably involve paying for men with pile drivers, and then there's the fact that the drain has been raised to the level of the concrete... nope, really bad idea.

Oh yeah, and TODDLER.

As for decking, we've just laid some at the front of the garden which was at a different level to the part we are now discussing. The reason for laying it was to do away with the very hard, infant-skull-endangering step that was extant before we levelled the space out.

Grant, I like the gravel idea, but again, not sure gravel is very toddler friendly - I think he would a) eat it, b) cut himself on it, and c) eat it. Maybe that's something to consider for the slightly longer term. As for pots, that's the way we're going.

Pots and pebbles. Brighton, innit.
 
 
Saveloy
14:27 / 11.07.07
How many of these slabs are there? Or rather, how much of an area have you got to cover?
 
 
grant
15:53 / 11.07.07
get bigger gravel.

ATOMIC gravel.
 
 
grant
15:59 / 11.07.07
Big stone gravel!

2-inch pearl pebbles or river jacks/jax!
 
 
grant
16:07 / 11.07.07
Your people may call them cobbles.
 
 
Quantum
16:15 / 11.07.07
This is Brighton- look at our beach;



Plenty of smooth pebbles.
 
 
Quantum
16:17 / 11.07.07
Cobbles are ye olde street paving here.

 
 
grant
16:48 / 11.07.07
Good God, man, give the toddler a bucket and make him walk along the beach!
 
 
Spaniel
19:42 / 11.07.07
I think it's illegal to remove them, but I ain't gonna let that stop me. No sir.
 
 
Tsuga
00:52 / 12.07.07
Perhaps you could enclose the perimeter with an edging, like some kind of weather-resistant wood, and fill it with small pea gravel or crushed stone. That pebbly beach stone looks like it would be hell on bare feet. The only thing you don't want an immediate transition from fine gravels to your indoors, bits will stick on shoes and get tracked in. But babies can faceplant in it and as long as they close their eyes (which thankfully, they seem to do), they're usually going to be fine.
 
 
sorenson
06:55 / 12.07.07
Boboss - I'm finding it hard to think of paving stone options without being able to see them, but I'm supporting the pots on pavers idea - I think that could be really lovely. You can also buy concrete paint in all sorts of tasteful colours if you wanted to smarten them up a bit., and even get professional people to re-texture and paint concrete to look like something else if you wanted to go all out. You do make me aware that my own back garden is a bit of nightmare in terms of toddler safety though!

Allecto, I tend to kill all houseplants. The only one I've had survive and thrive is a yucca plant - it's completely low maintenance and absolutely gorgeous. Mine is nicer than this one but it will give you some idea.

 
  

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