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Jean Baudrillard - 1929-2007

 
 
dogwonder
13:16 / 07.03.07
A sad day for postmodernism, Jean Baudrillard has died, aged 77. May I lead a tribute with my favourite quote:

'Virtuality, being itself virtual, does not really happen. One lives in the very Rousseauistic idea that there is in nature a good use for things that can and must be tried. I don’t think that it is possible to find a politics of virtuality, a code of ethics of virtuality because virtuality virtualizes politics as well: there will be no politics of virtuality, because politics has become virtual; there will be no code of ethics of virtuality, because the code of ethics has become virtual, that is, there are no more references to a value system.'
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
13:21 / 07.03.07
BBC obituary. The Guardian's opens with:

Jean Baudrillard's death did not take place. "Dying is pointless," he once wrote. "You have to know how to disappear." The New Yorker reported a reading the French sociologist gave in a New York gallery in 2005. A man from the audience, with the recent death of Jacques Derrida in mind, mentioned obituaries and asked Baudrillard: "What would you like to be said about you? In other words, who are you?" Baudrillard replied: "What I am, I don't know. I am the simulacrum of myself."

My favourite part is this, and Matrix Warriors everywhere, take note:

Pop culture paid tribute to Baudrillard's prescience in Andy and Larry Wachowski's 1999 film The Matrix, about a near-future Earth where human society is a simulation designed by malign machines to keep us enslaved. Hacker hero Neo (Keanu Reeves) hides his contraband software in a hollowed-out copy of one of the philosopher's books, and rebel chief Morpheus (Laurence Fishburne) quotes Baudrillard's most famous formula: "Welcome to the desert of the real."

Baudrillard was invited to collaborate on the sequels, but declined. He later protested wryly that The Matrix had got him wrong: "The most embarrassing part of the film is that the new problem posed by simulation is confused with its classical, Platonic treatment ... The Matrix is surely the kind of film about the matrix that the matrix would have been able to produce."
 
 
miss wonderstarr
15:24 / 07.03.07
The Matrix is surely the kind of film about the matrix that the matrix would have been able to produce

It's with that kind of comment ~ genuinely smart, informed, original, provocative and insightful ~ that I think he earns his reputation.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:46 / 07.03.07
Ooh, very sad. Only ever read Simulations and Cool Memories, but they both blew me away.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:29 / 08.03.07
It's with that kind of comment ~ genuinely smart, informed, original, provocative and insightful ~ that I think he earns his reputation.

I honestly can't tell if this is meant to be sarcastic.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
08:34 / 08.03.07
I honestly can't tell if this is meant to be sarcastic.

A bit like Baudrillard, really.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
08:57 / 08.03.07
No, I meant it. I know it wasn't an especially profound comment on his part, but it was a smart one that hadn't occurred to me, so I think that's how a philosopher earns his salt.

Though... yes, entirely fitting if my comment seemed ambiguous.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
09:00 / 08.03.07
Looking back now, I feel my original post was probably a bit over-the-top and over-generous.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:03 / 08.03.07
Mmm. I'm afraid Baudrillard is one of those people my idea of whom is almost hopelessly stained by the idiocy of those he influenced. Although I'm not convinced it's an unjustified stain. From the Guardian obit:

His 2004 essay, War Porn, observed how the photographs from Abu Ghraib enacted scenes of fetishistic pornography, concluding: "It is really America that has electrocuted itself."

I mean... it's just not, is it? I guess you could say he's making the point that US foreign policy damages the people of the US, but I guess I kinda feel that there are less obtuse ways to say that, and that those are what's called for right now (more than ever, etc.). Baudrillard's way of putting it does seem to kinda remove the actual real consequences of US foreign policy on, y'know, actual Iraqi people in favour of a 'clever' quip which has the illusion of profundity. (Ah, but ARE they ACTUAL Iraqi people, or are they merely a SIMULCRUM oh shut up...)

Many of Baudrillard's readers are keen to defend him from the common accusation that he downplays these physical consequences. But I get this sense from what I have read of him - and straight up, hands in the air, I've never read a whole chapter of his stuff much less a book - that he is really happy to play up to the portion of his readers/fans who are depoliticised Disinformation lovers.

In that obituary, when the writer suggests he might have enjoyed being seen as a "philosopher clown", I did kinda think "oh yes, a jester figure... a trickster..."
 
 
dogwonder
12:54 / 08.03.07
I kind of agree Flyboy's 2pm Gunplay Workshop. Many a time ,whilst reading Baudrillard, I felt that he was toying with my perception just by writing what he was writing. Proving postmodernism via a postmodernist literary style, and within that there is certainly an element of provocation. And as you quite rightly point out there are real world consequences that are undeniably true (or at least perceived to be true, I haven't actually been to Iraq, although the evidence is undeniably present).

Yet Baudrillard style was provocative, and he asked questions that seemed like an attempt to cut through the layers of (un)reality that seem to be ever growing around politics, culture, media and sport. Sometimes he used a sledgehammer, sometimes a nut cracker, but I feel he was genuinely worried by the conceptual shift towards the virtualisation of culture (or 3rd order of simulacrum) and used his writing to question the real, maybe he didn't always get it right (although ofcourse Baudrillard would say that there is no right or wrong in contemporary culture, simply a question of validity).

All questions are valid, whether we agree with them or not is our choice.
 
 
Molly Shortcake
02:57 / 09.03.07
Baudrillard's way of putting it does seem to kinda remove the actual real consequences of US foreign policy on, y'know, actual Iraqi people in favour of a 'clever' quip which has the illusion of profundity. (Ah, but ARE they ACTUAL Iraqi people, or are they merely a SIMULCRUM oh shut up...)

I guess you glossed over this part:

"The reality-fundamentalists equip themselves with a form of magical thinking that confuses message and messenger: if you speak of the simulacrum, then you are a simulator; if you speak of the virtuality of war, then you are in league with it and have no regard for the hundreds of thousands of dead ... it is not we, the messengers of the simulacrum, who have plunged things into this discredit, it is the system itself that has fomented this uncertainty that affects everything today."

Although Baudrillard is mostly known for his concept of the Simulacrum, it's one of many, and hardly represents his oeuvre. His notion of the Symbolic; relations and reversibility (which runs counter to the Simulacrum) is of equal importance. I find it difficult parse these two without Impossible Exchange (that which is not exchangeable for anything; thought, the world)... Seduction... and so on...

Since critics are so keen on turning his work into a moral argument, if you make the effort to understand his thought, and I suggest that you do, you'll find Baudrillard's concerned the human animal is subjecting itself to a series of experiments in which nothing human will survive.

Baudrillards thought is subtle and complex, and yes, profound. Lables such as 'postmodern' are misplaced, he's something of a gnostic. Radical anthropology, is an apt description, I think.

For those who are interested, 'Passwords' is Baudrillards retrospective introduction to his thought.

"Cipher, do not decipher. Work over the illusion. Create illusion to create an event. Make enigmatic what is clear, render unintelligable what is only too intelligible, make the event itself unreadable. Accentuate the false transparency of the world to spread a terroristic confusion about it, or the germs or viruses of a radical illusion -- in other words, a radical disillusioning of the real. Viral, pernicious thought, corrosive of meaning, generative of an erotic perception of reality's turmoil. Promote a clandestine trade in ideas, of all inadmissable ideas, of unassailable ideas, as the liquor trade had to be promoted in the 1930s. For we are already in a state of full-scale prohibition. Thought has become an extremely rare commodity, prohibited and prohibitive, which has to be cultivated in secret places following esoteric rules."

Jean Baudrillard, The Perfect Crime
 
 
Charlus
11:15 / 09.03.07
'Virtuality, being itself virtual, does not really happen. One lives in the very Rousseauistic idea that there is in nature a good use for things that can and must be tried. I don’t think that it is possible to find a politics of virtuality, a code of ethics of virtuality because virtuality virtualizes politics as well: there will be no politics of virtuality, because politics has become virtual; there will be no code of ethics of virtuality, because the code of ethics has become virtual, that is, there are no more references to a value system.'

For what reason was this your favourite quote. Paraphrase it for me.

I thought, that like most Baudrillard, that it was simply a 'reflection'. Similiar to one who looks at their reflection in a pond.
 
  
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