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New groups who, arguably, ought to be lined up and shot.

 
  

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Alex's Grandma
09:03 / 13.01.07
I appreciate that I must seem like some sort of slavering lunatic, but this thread isn't about me.

It is, at least personally, about 'Jamie T'. I thought I'd outgrown that silly, adolescent thing about wanting to hang, draw and quarter a band just because of their music after The Eurythmics stopped, after Billy Bragg (and The Blokes!) hit the skids, presumably, but Jamie T's work seems beyond awful.

I'm struggling to describe it, but from what I've heard so far (on this month's free CD in 'Uncut' magazine - for what it's worth, I am very, very ashamed,) imagine a young Sting laying down a few fuckin' home truths, yeah, lining a few rhymes up while doing a rack or two of gak in this or that club in Brixton before catching the night bus to, like, an all night blues in New Cross.

Or, failing that, just getting a cab back to Mum and Dad's charming home in Wimbledon.

I must seem, actually, like a sort of an 'issues' person, but I still think that 'Jamie'is to be feared.

Anyway, over to you!
 
 
rizla mission
10:39 / 13.01.07
Man, I could fill this thread up from now till kingdom come... only that on the occasions I've actually heard stuff by any of the groups currently receiving attention from magazines, radio and "indie" rock fans, it's been so scrappy, weak and unremarkable that it's just gone in one ear and out the other, and thus it would seem mean and haterly to even pass comment.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
13:32 / 13.01.07
Oddly enough I've named my fists 'Mean' and 'Haterly', and using their combined might I have objectively established that the following relatively new bands or artists are of no use to the discerning music listener:

Arctic Monkeys, The Towers of London, Hot Chip, The Noisettes, Keane, Guillemots, Razorlight, The Magic Numbers, The Zutons, Mew, Tokyo Police Club, Switchfoot, Larrikin Love, Goldfrapp, Klaxons, The Fratellis, We Are Scientists, The Automatic, The Killers, Editors, Art Brut, The Shins*, The Hold Steady, Babyshambles, The Raveonettes, The Young Knives, Bloc Party, Dirty Pretty Things, Milburn, The View, Franz Ferdinand, The Futureheads, The Long Blondes, Get Cape Wear Cape Fly.

I'm bound to think of a few more, and this by-no-means-exhaustive list only covers bloodless, spiritless guitar pop and related crappery- it does not cover emo, screamo, emo-or-screamo-by-people-who-do-coke (Avenged Sevenfold, My Chemical Romance), nearly all forms of electronic music, cocaine rap and The Red Hot Chili Peppers.

*They collect the award on behalf of anybody on a film soundtrack chosen by Zach Braff. Except Iron & Wine, whose inclusion on the Garden State OST was probably Natalie Portman's idea. She's great.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
14:28 / 13.01.07
Ok! Phex, I like your thinking!

As I understand it, Bloc Party are about to release the most important album since 'OK Computer', nearly ten years to the day!
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
14:58 / 13.01.07
Yep, guys who don't realize that they're yuppie scum are going to be totally stoked by that volley from the V2 records turd-cannon.
 
 
rizla mission
16:55 / 13.01.07
Hey, there are several bands on Phex's list that I actually quite like.

So much for MY pure, venomous hatred of the homogenised modern music industry.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
18:51 / 13.01.07
Well, homogenized probably isn't the right word, since there is such great variety of crap around that turning on the radio feels like a certain scene from Gravity's Rainbow- Franz Ferdinand, Art Brut and Hot Chip's 'Radio Two's key demographic singing silly choruses are Art' crap, The Towers of London and Klaxons pastiche of crap, Goldfrapp and the Long Blondes's toothless 'decadence' crap...
So, rizla, own up to which particular flavor of crap tickles your taste buds (like in another scene from Gravity's Rainbow, man that book's good) and I'll confess a shocking musical secret of my own...
 
 
uncle retrospective
19:34 / 13.01.07
Yea but Hot Chip and Goldfrapp are good... How about we really open a can of worms and say Gwen Stefani is rubbish. That normaly starts a good fight, she's not playing real music. Or something like that.
 
 
Char Aina
20:58 / 13.01.07
well, the arctic monkeys are more realer, obvioulsy.

i have to say, though, gwen's latest effort has left me seriously cold. i'd say give her a couple more chances and then she can line up as well.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
21:47 / 13.01.07
That normaly starts a good fight, she's not playing real music. Or something like that.

Well we can have a civilised exchange of views, can't we? Isn't one of the problems, and I suppose joys, in a way, about the music forum that people tend to go a bit overboard?

I mean I like the Arctic Monkeys, but I also respect Phex's feelings of inchoate rage when it comes to the guys. Can't we all just, you know, get along?
 
 
rizla mission
22:22 / 13.01.07
So, rizla, own up to which particular flavor of crap tickles your taste buds (like in another scene from Gravity's Rainbow, man that book's good) and I'll confess a shocking musical secret of my own...

Well....

Art Brut have sadly become extremely annoying and predictable quite quickly, but "Formed a Band" was a fantastic out-of-nowhere single, and they were fucking great when I saw them live a few years ago. Plus, despite the annoyingness, at least their songs are about things and make some kind of an impression, which is more than can be said for most of this stuff.

The Long Blondes "Once and Never Again" and "Seperated by Motorways" are fucking great singles. Other tracks I've heard by them have been considerably less good, but still, I think they are generally a band worthy of approval and might well check out their album if I see it cheap somewhere.

The Raveonettes make totally cynical, throw-away formula trash-pop records.... but bizarrely they seem to have chosen to do so with ME as the target audience, which is quite flattering. I only have one single by them though, so maybe they've changed since then.

The Shins just write really, really great songs, and the fact that they perform them in a manner that is aestheticly comfortable enough to gain them a degree of mainstream acceptance shouldn't lead us to a kneejerk denial of this. Most song-based rock bands would sell their internal organs fto get their hands on a set of melodies as good as the ones on "Chutes Too Narrow".
 
 
neutral
22:29 / 13.01.07
thanks guys! just downloaded some great stuff! what? did i just say something wrong?
 
 
The Falcon
22:44 / 13.01.07
Oh, Goddddd, the View! Dundee's finest - finest what, it doesn't pay to tell, ho ho.

The singer dislodges a particularly troublesome piece of phlegm on every 'r' during their famed 'Superstar Tradesman' single - given there are three in the title, it wears very quickly.

Apparently they play it at Tannadice now when United score, but really I can only think 'Love is in the Air' will be making a comeback sooner rather than later.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
23:10 / 13.01.07
Just listening to The View at the moment, funnily enough.

And I can't think of anything to say.
 
 
matthew.
00:24 / 14.01.07
I enjoy The Hold Steady's lyrics (which are quite clever and punny) and yet despise the vocalist. But I like them. I guess. I don't know. I'm frightened, where's the Moz thread?
 
 
uncle retrospective
13:53 / 14.01.07
I really don't understand The Raveonettes hate, I love Pretty in Black (admitedly I haven't heard the first album)But any album based on 60's girl bands with Mo Tucker and Martin Rev on it is fantastic by me. Oh and Ronnie Spector! So leave em alone.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
23:33 / 14.01.07
I can't take Ronnie Spector seriously after all the terrible things she's been saying about Phil in the papers lately.

Perhaps Phil did dress up as Father Christmas and make Ronnie balance ten beers on her nose while handcuffed to the back of a moving truck, or whatever it was, but, on the other hand, Phil might have had a perfectly good reason for doing so.

You know, for the drum sound.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
01:51 / 15.01.07
I can't take Ronnie Spector seriously after all the terrible things she's been saying about Phil in the papers lately.

I'll fight your face off, Granny.
 
 
---
04:29 / 15.01.07
I appreciate that I must seem like some sort of slavering lunatic

Arctic bloody Monkeys,
Should be lined up and shot,
Into the stars,
Playing their guitars,
To let the Aliens know that we're back!







HAHAH!










Sorry. ¬_¬
 
 
■
08:05 / 15.01.07
Hang on, did someone imply something nasty about Billy Bragg up there? OUTSIDE!
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
16:41 / 15.01.07
The Fucking Kaiser Fucking Chiefs. The fucks.
 
 
Corey Waits
01:45 / 16.01.07
I second the vote to have The Hold Steady shot.

The whole spoken-word, getting-really-angsty-about-stuff schtick might work for one or two songs on an album, but not for every fucking song.

I even saw them live, and the only thing that stopped them from ruining my whole night was how much arse both Thunderbirds are Now! and Les Savvy Fav kicked.
 
 
Mike Phillips
02:13 / 16.01.07
I would have nominated Phantom Planet after their "The O.C." "Califonia" overload. The album is massively forgettable.

But they redeemed themselves with their latest. I think it's simply self-titled. It's produced by the same guy who produces the Flaming Lips. It sounds like a weird mix of punk and funk. I can't describe it, but it's pretty damn good. Sorry, I don't have anyone else to bitch about... mayne I could bitch about Coheed, but their not getting enough attention YET.
 
 
Char Aina
02:22 / 16.01.07
probably best you kill them now, dude.
if you could go back in time to when hitler was just a boy...history will thank you, dude.
 
 
Mike Phillips
10:55 / 16.01.07
Good point. I know Coheed must hate it when people say this, but as long as the Mars Volta is around, Coheed and Cambria will just look like a shitty rip-off.
 
 
Sniv
13:12 / 16.01.07
Oh, Coheed... I bought the album for a fiver, took it home and everyone of my friends called it rubbish. Fair enough, I put it away, pretty much forgot about it. A few weeks later all of my friends have their own copies and play it all the bloody time (my partner, especially loves flowing around the house with it on her 'phones. I can tell, becuase she has it so loud I can still hear lyrics...). Hopefully they'll get bored of it soon as well.

And Gwen Stefani. She thought she'd escaped my wrath with that fucking atrocious yodelling song. Well she can think again, because when you hear on the news in a few days that she's been decapitated and gutted in her own home by a troup of savage midget assasins, you can think to yourself 'that hit was ordered by the boy from the future!'. They should be getting there very soon. They had to walk. From England. Did I mention they're undead, too? They were formed from the tears of blood that ran from my facial cavities when I saw her doing that song on Jonathan Ross a few months ago. Strike west my tiny, deadly assassins!!1!

The Horrors too - who decided that shit music was good again?! These talentless scene casualties need to have their teeth pulled out with razor sharp pincers. That would be horrific.

Need to find calming tunes now, to redress the balance of hate.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
14:51 / 16.01.07
To everyone here. Does it make a difference if you hear the tune first and then they hype? Is it that you hear a load of hype and then the tune isn't actually that good?
 
 
Mike Phillips
15:32 / 16.01.07
To everyone here. Does it make a difference if you hear the tune first and then they hype? Is it that you hear a load of hype and then the tune isn't actually that good?

A very good point. The hypa always put a cynical spin into my head.

I think I'm going to have to nominate Timberlake for this thread. His new song is annoying the hell out of me, his new movie Alpha Dog looks rediculous, and he's got another movie coming out this year. OVERLOAD!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
16:01 / 16.01.07
Moderators, pls delete Barbelith.
 
 
Char Aina
16:09 / 16.01.07
why?
is it because of the gwen thing?

like, gewn stefani is a planetary liability, man.
she's the reason we have wars and suffering, and you know it.
if her 'wind it up' was any less of a fuckin wind up it might be forgivable, but i mean. seriously.

like, have you heard it?
she raps like a twelve year old.
a stupid twelve year old.
the lonley goat herd thing is cool, but not cool enough to have to tolerate the rest of the song.

but maybe she's mocking me? mocking me with her shit song that sells millions? it's hard to tell these days with all the proactive post modern post-ironic irony in pop music.

this is why she can have a couple more tunes to dig herself into/get herself out of the hole.
that and because she has cool glasses.
cool glasses count for a lot in my book.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
00:06 / 17.01.07
Are Gwen Stefani or Justin Timberlake "new groups"? Are all of those listed in Phex's drool-speckled rant "new groups"?
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
08:21 / 17.01.07
I can't help the drooling. The scientists who raised me played terrible music every time I was fed.
 
 
rizla mission
09:41 / 17.01.07
Are Gwen Stefani or Justin Timberlake "new groups"? Are all of those listed in Phex's drool-speckled rant "new groups"?

New-ish.

New as opposed to old/'established'.

What does it matter anyway?
 
 
Sniv
10:13 / 17.01.07
Are Gwen Stefani or Justin Timberlake "new groups"? Are all of those listed in Phex's drool-speckled rant "new groups"?

Reidcourchie's dad has a new best friend.

And, the answer to your question is that while they might technically not be 'new groups', they are still unutterably, painfully shit and should be chastised as often as possible. Go! my midget assassins!!!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:27 / 17.01.07
I wish you were dead.
 
  

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