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Darwyn Cooke presents: The Spirit!

 
  

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Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
19:05 / 30.11.06
Darwyn Cooke's apparently got another antiquarian mystery-man gig coming out in December with a relaunch of Eisner's The Spirit, following on the heels of his Batman/The Spirit team-up out this week. Did anyone else pick it up? I have to admit that since Catwoman & The New Frontier I'm a bit of a sucker for Cooke's swanky swell boys & girls even if his character designs leave something to be desired as far as differentiation-out-of-costume goes, so I picked up the team-up.

It wasn't bad. I was left with a feeling of "fluff," it was popcorn without the zip-bang satisfaction of, say, Nextwave (another popcorn comic). A little more could have been done to explain the Spirit as he's a character with less of a hold on the current readership, and I didn't like that the Spirit never seemed to quite believe that Batman was actually Batman. Barbara Gordon could have been in a bit more (possibly even as Batgirl) but I liked the central idea - very Silver Agey, I thought.

The art was as usualy beautifully competent and the characters stood out from each other more than usual with Cooke, but I was sad to see a lack of giant Dick Sprang props or Eisnerian logo-buiildings.

Probably pick up the monthly when it comes out for some two-fisted mystery man action.

Thoughts?
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
19:41 / 30.11.06
My favorite part was that tiny glimpse at this thing:

the cover to #1, with some improved coloring and sick logo work.

Like, wow.
 
 
The Falcon
19:57 / 30.11.06
Ah, but dude - there was that whole collapsing 'Pier Sixty' sign and the back of Batman's cape... which were, alas, about the most excited I got reading the book. However, I'm simply going to entirely blame Loeb for that because New Frontier is, by and large, without flaw and therefore must assume when it starts proper, it'll start proper. Gorgeous, though.
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
20:02 / 30.11.06
I picked it up, and had about the same thoughts on it, Papers. Art was lovely, and it was good fun, although the story was a tad confusing for me, since I haven’t read anything about the Spirit that was written after 1941 (there’s a lot of Spirit comics to get through, you know?). But it was all good fun, and the art was lovely, as I knew it would be. The book was worth it though, if only for the splash page of Batman jumping onto the Joker’s airplane at yelling “I’ll stop you, Joker!” That’s iconic for you. I want a poster of that page, word bubble and all.
 
 
Spaniel
20:11 / 30.11.06
Sorry, I don't know much about this. Loeb is writing and Cooke is doing the pretty pictures, but soon Loeb will stop writing and Cooke will do the whole shebang - is that right?

I hope so. That art is unbelievably fantastic, and New Frontier is the special treasure.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
20:13 / 30.11.06
That logo is pretty brill, although it's a little subtle. If I wasn't looking for a logo, I wouldn't find one - how subtle was Eisner usually? All the samples of The Spirit splashes that I've seen have the logo far more obvious. Colouring on that's beautiful -- the stray blood bleeding on down and mixing with rainwater...

I was a little put off by the Superman cameo, it was a good explanation for what was going on but didn't fit the overall tone. Some of the Bat-anachronisms like Catwoman's "heroic" costume and the presence of Harley (she felt oddly out of place but they could have worked it a bit to make her parallel the Spirit's Ellen) threw me off a bit. And Cooke really shouldn't draw Killer Croc. Really.

Do we think they're going to try and revamp Ebony White in a more "appropriate" / acceptable way? Is there an acceptable way to include Ebony?

What's the deal with P'Gell's apostrophe, by the way?
 
 
The Falcon
20:15 / 30.11.06
That is right, Boboss. Loeb 'n' Cooke are just credited as "storytellers" here, though I seem to recall prerelease gear having them as co-writers; given the 'not very good' quality of the story, and - in particular - the old 'wheel the rogues out, it's all I'm really interested in' trick, you really have to assume that Jeph 'Hush, Dark Victory, Long Hallowe'en' Loeb is largely responsible.
 
 
Spaniel
22:03 / 30.11.06
But the question is will he cease to responsible?
 
 
The Falcon
22:04 / 30.11.06
Yes. Henceforth, The Spirit (no Batman) will be by Cooke (script/pencils) and J.Bone (inks.)
 
 
The Natural Way
07:26 / 01.12.06
tHEN IT IS NOW THE SEXYTIME.
 
 
Spaniel
07:40 / 01.12.06
He is right. It is upon us.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:41 / 01.12.06
>> What's the deal with P'Gell's apostrophe, by the way?

...Just makes her sound cool? Exotic...and French [or vageuly European]? Dunno, really...that's my guess.

I honestly hadn't even noticed the SPIRIT logo in that #1 cover (which is a thing of beauty) at all until it was mentioned here. Eisner's logos were always much more obvious than than, across the board.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
20:19 / 01.12.06
Actually, I mean the way they did the trade dress, which you can only see in the thumbnail in Batman/Spirit. And it's really sweet.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
20:43 / 01.12.06
Finder: ...Just makes her sound cool? Exotic...and French [or vageuly European]? Dunno, really...that's my guess.

I've always thought P'Gell sounded like a name for one of those exotic, long-lost princesses from a Forbidden Kingdom, lost beneath the mountains...what was her backstory, anyway?

In other words, I'm hoping that Cooke takes some time to clarify and quantify the backstory and background of Spirit and his Central City cast, for those of us babes-in-woods.
 
 
The Falcon
21:07 / 01.12.06
Using the powers of google, I've determined she is indeed French and has a backstory not dissimilar to Ultimate Black Widow, nine dead husbands, and is a prototype of the 'femme fatale'. And not much else. I did think the name suggested at least French Indochine or something.
 
 
FinderWolf
21:36 / 01.12.06
Yeah, I trust Cooke. He did mention that he'll be setting the ongoing series in the modern-ish world, so that they'll have computers and cell phones but we won't see the Spirit writing text messages or IM'ing Eleen Dolan. (I remember Gail Simone's old joke that John Byrne wanted to redo Watchmen and insert cell phones; spoofing on Byrne's SPIDER-MAN: CHAPTER ONE where instead of Peter's parents buying him a microscope [in the sort-of 60s] they buy him a computer [in the sort-of 90s]).
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
00:36 / 02.12.06
I happened upon an issue of Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man with a girl keeping a blog about her encounters with Spider-Man...which she started when they were both in high school. It felt entirely awkward, especially considering the same story could make a bit more sense over in the Ultimate Line.

I'm really looking forward to the Spirit, and I presume that Cooke will employ a "Power of Shazam" / "Starman" vibe - set in modern times but with a decidedly anachronistic feel to the surroundings and characters. I'm a sucker for anachronistic comics...
 
 
A beautiful tunnel of ghosts
10:39 / 02.12.06
Eisner named P'Gell after Pigalle Place, Paris' red-light district.
 
 
FinderWolf
21:01 / 02.12.06
Thanks, tunnel - I've read a lot of interviews with Eisner about his career, the Spirit, etc. but never heard that tidbit! Very cool.
 
 
A beautiful tunnel of ghosts
12:20 / 03.12.06
You're welcome, Finder. Eisner mentions it during an interview in either the Warren or Kitchen Sink Spirit magazines, but I can't remember which issue. My Google-fu is weak today, but I think some of the interviews he did with other industry professionals were reprinted by Kitchen Sink; however most are sadly languishing unappreciated in the pages of those magazines, although I've now added scanning and OCRing them to the end of my list of things-to-do.
 
 
sleazenation
14:36 / 03.12.06
The art was as usualy beautifully competent and the characters stood out from each other more than usual with Cooke, but I was sad to see a lack of giant Dick Sprang props or Eisnerian logo-buiildings.

You spotted the logo made out of the letters of the falling sign on page 4, right?

I've loved Cooke's stuff since I first came across his work when he did his issue of X-Force. For me, Cooke's art works best when he's working with thick lines (or thick inks on his lines, I don't know which it is). It was a lightweight book whose brevity was amongst its virtues - I don't think I would have liked it as much if it had been extended over more pages and a number of issues. I just wish they'd got someone other than Jeph Loeb to write the dialogue, cause his writing is frequently as graceful as a large meteorite falling on a small town.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
21:13 / 03.12.06
sleaze: You spotted the logo made out of the letters of the falling sign on page 4, right?

I missed it the first couple read-throughs, but I looked again and smiled. Nice.

Actually, the early sequence with the switching back and forth between Central and Gotham were - I don't know if they needed "Gotham City" captions to indicate location but more contrast could have been brought out - maybe Promethea-style two-tone switching back and forth.

Darwyn's got a lovely handle on the Spirit's facial expressions.
 
 
Spaniel
08:23 / 04.12.06
Sleaze thanks for summing up my feelings for me.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
04:04 / 13.12.06
And #1 hits the stands this week, and is the comic I'm most excited about picking up tomorrow morning on the way to work. Hence: BUMP!
 
 
The Natural Way
10:55 / 13.12.06
Indeed, the dance.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
18:00 / 13.12.06
DEVESTATION.

#1 does not have that totally awesome cover. But it does have an outright stunning title page. WHOOOO!!!
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
22:56 / 13.12.06
Ebony! He had Ebony in there! With human-type lips! And witty repartee!

And, you know, that title page WAS wicked.
 
 
Billuccho!
00:15 / 14.12.06
My shop didn't have it. Or Batman/Spirit. Because the truck, like, got lost? Or something.

Grr. Argh.
 
 
at the scarwash
03:00 / 14.12.06
Darwyn Cooke is the only human being who really has any business even touching this title. And issue one is a pretty nice shot at it. Just a simple crime story, but then what Spirit story isn't. It isn't the narrative but the narration that made Eisner's work so compelling. And although Cooke has a way to go before he acheives that level of mastery, he manages to do this issue with an admirable amount of flair, impressively managing to avoid aping Eisner's bag(s) of tricks as he simultaneously tips his hat to the master again and again.

And I like the revised Ebony. A lot. The lawn-jockey exchange was a nice response to the character's past, I thought.
 
 
mephisto
03:19 / 14.12.06
So what's the cover look like?
 
 
The Falcon
13:55 / 14.12.06
I think it's basically a cover version of that classic Eisner, tie flapping in the (Central) city breeze, innit?
 
 
Grady Hendrix
17:07 / 14.12.06
I bought this to support the title, but I have to say that the nice n'breezy story was a really pleasant ride. They did ride that "you talk like you're on TV, how annoying" joke right into the ground, through the planet, and out the other side, but overall it was really enjoyable.

It didn't make me question my life choices, but it was entertaining and I'm definitely aboard for next issue. My only complaint is that I wish they published it for $1.00 on really cheap, crappy, pulp, and they designed the ads to look more like period ads, and then they went all out on the expensive paper stock for the trade.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
18:46 / 14.12.06
I liked the bit about the guy with his special enhancement ... very oddly appropriate, given the retro-ness of the comic, with a weird "failed futures" vibe.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
03:52 / 15.12.06
I'll try to avoid spoilers for the purposes of letting people who haven't succumbed catch up to the proceedings.

I love that cover is a cover of an Eisner cover, which I pondered on the walk home from coffee tonight. Jazzed. I also love that little itty-bitty "Action * Mystery * Adventure" icon up in the corner with the logo, where a dishevelled Spirit sits with hands behind his head, collar askew and lipstick upon his cheek.

The retro vibe and style that permeates the work is tempered with some solidly modern elements that are not peripheral. The cell phone use, obviously, is the prime example - it's not just there, it's pivotal to the story. I wasn't sure how I felt about the "modernized" Spirit versus an antiquarian one, but I think I've come around to the sensibility of it. It allows for things like the man with the "enhancement" and his fate - that failed future angle that pops up. This Central City has flexibility to be different things and different situations, even if it isn't readily apparent (especially coming from the NOSTALGIA=GOD DC Comics Juggernaut, especially in a story centered around a reanimated property) and something like a wild-eyed cyberpunk flourish or a bit of the supernatural doesn't seem terribly out of place.

It doesn't *feel* like a first issue, but it doesn't *feel* like you've come in mid-story. It's more like that feeling at the beginning of a story arc. If that makes any sense?

I'm curious abour Ellen's relative absence from the story, I think she's just on the one page, but Cooke's doing a solid job for a first issue in introducing the cast of supporting players (Ellen, Commissioner Dolan, Ginger Coffee, Ebony) and making the opening strokes with each of them. I gather one of Eisner's hallmarks was that the stories could go anywhere, often sidelining the Spirit to focus on his cast and I'm looking forward to Cooke carrying on in that, heh, spirit.

Ebony's a really well-done remake. Plenty of bitchy jabs about his previous incarnation without going over the top with it, and he gets a punchline.

And, as stated, that title page was KEY.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
11:47 / 15.12.06
I was a tad dissappointed by the lack of formal experimentation in this. Part of the original Spirit's appeal was the telling of the story, and that stunning splash aside there was precious littlein Cooke's storytelling.
Don't get me wrong - the man is incapable of making a bad comic, but this was a little too straight forward for my taste.
 
  

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