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Are you a bad person?

 
  

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c0nstant
07:39 / 05.01.07
so, I haven't been into work since the just after xmas...

Lies pile on lies, it'll all come back on me, at some point I'm sure. Oh well, I'm resigning the first day I go back anyway. Just trying to milk that sick pay now!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:33 / 18.01.07
I feel terrible.

One of my best friends recently had a baby- her boyfriend fucked off the day after the birth (after a long catalogue of really shitty behaviour), and as such has joined my list of "people I would gladly feed to a bear". Now he's turned up again, and I've said to her, and thought she understood, "you do what you have to, we'll all support you, but don't expect me to speak to that wanker ever again".

Earlier this evening she phones me for advice on anti-virus software, then halfway through the conversation says "I don't understand this- I'll hand you over to *****". I told her I didn't want to speak to him.

I'm supposed to be going to visit tomorrow (I feel kind of bad about that because, as a friend, she IS hard work, and she has a baby- and I'm terrified of them- and I haven't been to visit in a couple of weeks) and she asked if I was still coming over. I said "yeah, of course, but I don't really want to speak to *****".

Now, what goes on between them is of course their own business, and I now feel bad that either her friend (me) will not visit if *****'s there... or that she'll not have ***** there if she wants her friends over, and will therefore be looking after the kid on her own any time she wants to see her friends. (Not that I imagine he'd be that fucking helpful, but y'know...)

But I don't want to see him. I don't want to talk to him. I'm pretty forgiving, and am sure it'll all be okay in the future as long as he doesn't fuck off on her again. BUT right now I don't want somebody who will behave the way he has as a friend anymore. And I don't want to argue with him, or even blank him, in front of my friend who is understandably glad that he's showed up again, and has to deal with having just had a baby- I'm not gonna get into an argument at her house.

And what makes me feel even more of a bad person is that part of me was looking for an excuse not to go round anyway because I'm just plain lazy.

And I don't know what to do about it anymore. And I know that whatever I do I will feel bad about it.

AND I know that starting sentences with "and" is a BAD THING TO DO, which makes me feel even worse.
 
 
Triplets
23:55 / 18.01.07
Let her know how you feel. Let her know as you said above that this is just how you feel right now and doesn't reflect on how any other person feels/or wants to deal with *********** at the moment. And then explain to her that you know this is a temporary as long as he don't fuck off again and you'll be able to be civil in the fairly near-future.

Just be civil and tell her straight, you shouldn't have to deal with someone when the dealing might cause more grief for you, her or the baby.

Huggles.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:58 / 18.01.07
Oh, and if it helps, starting sentences with "and" really isn't that bad, as long as you use complete sense units.
 
 
Dutch
00:00 / 19.01.07
Well, I don´t think it could be held against you if you were unwilling to visit a friend due to the fact they have a partner whom you can´t stand.

The situation was a bit different, but here´s another example A good and very long time friend of my parents got together with an obnoxious guy after she´d just gotten out of a difficult divorce. This man laid claim to her, was very possessive, neurotic, and even outright violent. My mother was able to visit her, and tried her best to ignore the obnoxious partner, but my father literally could not visit her because he was sure he´d be too hostile towards the man.

If you feel you would be unable to face the guy in question and sort of pretend everything was peachy, I don´t think it´s that bad. It is a shame that this prevents you from seeing an old time friend in her current situation, and if it really bugs you, there are always alternatives even though they underline a certain amount of animosity.

Sorry if I´m not making too much sense here, this just sprang to inebriated mind.
 
 
HCE
05:57 / 19.01.07
It's been Nazi week in film class and I'm not being very nice or thoughtful.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
07:42 / 19.01.07
On the plus side, you're bound to be nicer and more thoughtful than Nazis.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:07 / 19.01.07
Looks like she did get what I meant- she just called me and said "*****'s not here- are you still coming over?"

I won't be visiting for long, cos a) she does my head in after a while and b) I'm scared of babies- but I fell much better about things now.

Still feel like a bit of a git, mind you, but a git who's avoided an awkward situation.
 
 
Internaut
17:38 / 22.01.07
a few friends and i once broke into an old building used to store old things for old drama schools, and sprayed the whole place down with old, but still very wet paint.

then the police charged people for it. that people wasnt us.
 
 
imaginary mice
10:54 / 23.01.07
Recently I’ve been trying to be a bit more open, friendly and personal and to call people by their name instead of just saying “hello” (if you’re chronically shy even a little thing like that can be a big deal). I’ve only tried this approach on three or four people so far but I’ve just found out that the person who I’ve been saying “Hello, Sue” to for the last few weeks is actually called Anne. I’ve known her for over a year and see her almost every day. She knows my name.

I’m so bloody useless.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
11:26 / 23.01.07
Ask her why she didn't correct you!

That sort of thing is totally the mis-named person's fault. If you can't be bothered to correct people of course they're going to keep getting it wrong.

Alternatively start calling her "Jim".
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
11:34 / 23.01.07
With Whiskey P. on this. That seems like a perfectly reasonable mistake (confusing one fairly common name for another), and a rather odd response on her part.
 
 
Quantum
12:09 / 23.01.07
Ms Goody (25) said;
I was shocked and disgusted at myself. I don't know why I said those things to her or why those words came into my head. I wasn't thinking in my head a nasty thought. I'm not making excuses because I know that it's wrong. I now know that it's offensive. Maybe I'm just really stupid and nasty at heart. But I really don't think I am... I'm mixed race myself...
 
 
Tsuga
22:18 / 27.01.07
This was probably seventeen years ago. I was working with some old hippies who really knew where to get good drugs, and one of them had a line on ecstacy. This was back when, at least where I was, ecstacy was the new exciting thing to try out. This guy was able to get ounces or more at a time, in pure powdered form (what do the kids call it now, Molly?). Well, being young and enterprising, I figure I'll split an ounce with him (back then hits were going for 25 bucks a pop), get back what I spent and have free drugs. I didn't realize how many hits were in half an ounce. When I got the bag, I didn't really have a scale adequate to weigh such light amounts, and subsequently the first night I gave myself and my girlfriend about two-and-a-half doses apiece. I figured it would be like acid, and take about forty-five minutes to really hit, so we could take it at my house and then drive out to the nearby park to hang out. This is a 2000 plus acre suburban park with miles of roads through it, and a special spot you could pull off the road and drive into a huge field lined with trees along the road; combined with the topography your vehicle was invisible from those driving by on the road. The park was supposed to be closed at dark, but there were no gates. So usually you might see one or two other cars go by the field all night but overall you had the place to yourself, and on a lovely summer evening with the katydids blasting you could just sit out there and talk and look at the stars and whatever else your mind would conjure.

Like I said, I figured we would have a little bit of time to get out there, but after fifteen minutes, traveling down the road to the park we both noticed the very strong and rapidly approaching effects of our ingestion and looked wildly at each other, I remember seeing her eyes wide open and eyebrows arched over, and feeling mine doing the same, and saying, "let's just get through this together, okay?"
"Okay"
We make it through the few miles of headlight-illuminated shapeshifting forested roadway and park in the field, relieved. We sat there for hours, talking and shaking and hallucinating and laughing. You know, tripping our asses off. She was biting the inside of her cheek without being able to stop herself, I actually put my finger in the side of her mouth to stop her for a while, which sounds really bizarre now, but seemed perfectly appropriate to both of us at the time.

Our sense of time was skewed, but I'm pretty sure we had been there for many hours when we heard a car coming from the distance. The diffused glow of the headlights illuminating the air over the field was so wild, then as the car went along the road that curved around half the perimeter of the field, we saw the light shooting through the gaps in the trees like a fucking spaceship. As the car got to the far end of the field, we heard tires squealing, and then the unreal sound of the crash of metal into something, but it was really hard to comprehend it. The headlights were about 60-80 meters away, shining perpendicular to the road and up into the branches of the trees around the field at a steep angle. I think the engine was off immediately, but I'm not sure. After some unknown amount of time (seconds? minutes?) the lights went out, and all we could hear was the ping of the metal cooling. "Did that just happen?" I asked.
"It was a wreck, right?"
"I think so. I should. I should go over and see."
"Don't go." She was scared, really scared.
"They might be hurt."
"Don't go."
I didn't want to go. But I knew I should, though I had no idea how I could handle it. I am usually the kind of person who can handle really fucked-up situations with some amount of calm, and I really don't think in any normal situation I would ever not go, but this time, I didn't go. I didn't go, and it still bothers me. I don't know how long we sat there until things changed, or exactly how things changed, but the next thing I remember is the field surrounded by emergency vehicles, the lights flashing through the trees and the loud squawk of their radios echoing to us and we were tripping so hard. And then, it was all quiet again and we were alone, no one ever saw us right there, it was like we were invisible and not really participants. Or maybe we made ourselves feel that way, I really don't know. It was a long time ago and our judgement was really impaired.
I looked in the paper the next day, and tried to find out if anything significant had been reported, but I found out nothing. I just hope nothing significant really happened, at least nothing more significant than a minor wreck and our bizarre experience. But I don't know what happened, really, and I still feel guilty about it. I don't know if it makes me a bad person but, um, I'm blaming the drugs.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
10:52 / 30.08.07
It's been months now. What horrible crimes have you all committed since this thread was last active? Come on, out with it.

Last night, I gently removed a woodlouse (my totem animal) from my bathroom using a piece of toilet tissue. I only meant to deposit him on the windowsill, but instead I screwed up and had to watch the poor little sucker fall to his death. The guilt was intense.

Although I did see him again later when I was putting out the bins and he looked okay. I'm almost positive it was the same one.
 
 
Evil Scientist
10:57 / 30.08.07
Woodlice have looooong memories though.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:05 / 30.08.07
I know that it's from January but if you've been calling someone called Anne by the name of Sue for months then I think they probably like being called Sue and you should continue. I know someone who was mistakenly called Christine by the same person for 3 years and was quite sad when someone told the culprit her real name.
 
 
jentacular dreams
11:08 / 30.08.07
A deadly combination when coupled with low terminal velocity.
 
 
jentacular dreams
11:10 / 30.08.07
Whoops, another X-post.

Homeless people in Nottingham seem to have agreed amongst themselves that my name is Tom (or at least that it shall be hereafter). I've tried to correct them but to no avail.
 
 
EvskiG
12:06 / 30.08.07
To atone for the louse's discomfort, you must buy this:

 
 
jentacular dreams
12:25 / 30.08.07
Best. Toys. Ever.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
14:46 / 30.08.07
Walking towards the pub to meet some friends a month or two ago I passed a large middle-aged man on the street, standing beside the phonebox of the corner shop.

The right hand side of his body was completely drenched in blood, but he was very calmly rolling a cigarette and seemed completely unhurt. I was so weirded out (and a little bit scared) that I kept on walking and didn't stop or talk to him. I thought he might be an actor, as well - that was the only solution I could think of that meant he could be covered in blood but physically fine.

It only occurred to me a little later that it may not have been his blood he was covered in. When we all came back the same way he was gone but there was a trail of blood spots on the pavement, so I knew it wasn't a hallucination. I didn't know what to do and I didn't report it to the police. I figured if anything awful had happened in the area I'd have seen it in the paper or heard it on the news. I do still feel bad about not doing anything at all though - not even following the trail of blood drops to see where it began ...
 
 
Ticker
14:53 / 30.08.07
It's alright WP.

I used to walk along a river parkway every morning for a few years to get to work. One day half asleep tramping along I came to a dead stop. My slow brain informed me I had either just walked by a severed baby's limb, a realistic doll's limb, or a random piece of garbage my imagination believed was possibly one of those items.

I stood there for about 5 minutes debating if I should turn around and go look at it again. what would it mean if it was just a doll's limb or what it would mean if it was a baby's...or if it was entirely unrelated?

I decided I liked not knowing and kept walking to work without going back to check.
 
 
Triplets
15:00 / 30.08.07
watch the poor little sucker fall to his death.

Aren't woodlice exoskeletal, though?

if you've been calling someone called Anne by the name of Sue for months then I think they probably like being called Sue and you should continue

Indeed. From the other side of things whenever I go the pub the resident Old Drinker (Bob) always says hi and calls me Adam, despite repeated attempts to tell him my real name. I've come to accept it now, like a little in-joke.

My pub name

is Adam!
 
 
Essential Dazzler
16:53 / 30.08.07
Urrrrgh. I'm still sat in front of a computer without having started my IT Skills coursework. I've been here 6 hours.

Deadline is the 3rd of September, which isn't the original dealine, that was back in March.

And this isn't the first time I've sat this module.

I didn't do any work for any modules the first time around, so I resat the whole year. This year I've managed to pass every exam, and hand in every piece of work apart from this stupid, pointless, compulsory, fucking Assignment.

Barbelith, I put it to you that I am SHIT.
 
 
c0nstant
00:53 / 31.08.07
I did things with my BEST FRIENDS partner...it's soooo much more complicated than it sounds (but then again when isn't it?) and it's all sorted now but...it kills me that there's something that I can NEVER EVER tell him.

sometimes I wonder what's wrong with me.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
04:31 / 31.08.07
I had just thought about starting a "Barbelith Ship of the Damned" thread! Weird. Mine was to be a place where one could confess their sins and accept their karmic debt.

I take the people I love for granted. Constantly, like all the time. Isn't that awful? Also I sleep around with people much younger than me because it's so damn easy. Don't judge me!
 
 
Triplets
07:33 / 31.08.07
To be fair kids will do anything for a bit of pocket money.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
07:36 / 31.08.07
Or the taste of Dairylea.
 
 
Princess
08:12 / 31.08.07
I sleep around with people much, much older than me because *I* am so goddamn easy.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
08:19 / 31.08.07
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:19 / 31.08.07
I don't think either promiscuity or inter-generational sex are necessarily "bad", Princess. If you find yourself feeling guilty about doing those things, maybe Catholic Christianity wasn't the right choice of faith after all?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:28 / 31.08.07
Well, or exactly the right choice, depending on whether or not one likes feeling guilty...
 
 
Whisky Priestess
08:52 / 31.08.07
it kills me that there's something that I can NEVER EVER tell him.

You can totally tell him once they've split up and he is utterly indifferent to hir behaviour, past, present or future. Friendships tend to last a lot longer than relationships, you know.
 
 
Princess
10:02 / 31.08.07


Promiscuity is not, per se, a bad thing. But if it makes you feel shitty and/or is driven by nasty head related things then it is not good.
 
  

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