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Psychoanalysis and Theory

 
 
nighthawk
20:33 / 23.10.06
I've had time to do a bit of extra reading recently, and I keep coming across concepts and claims that have been developed from psychoanalysis. Its difficult to avoid psychoanalysis completely, but I've always been quite wary of it in the past. Partly its because I'm not overly interested in the questions being raised, nor the answers given. I also find that many of the authors leave me tearing out my hair with frustration. For example, I picked up 'Powers of Horror' by Julia Kristeva this week, as it had been recommended to me independently by various people as more readable than other texts. Its interesting, but I don't think I understand more than the gist of what I've read. This is my problem with quite a few texts actually - I'll understand the general sense of the arguments, but not the logic behind them, or their implications. Its the combination of psychoanalytical jargon (technical language is fair enough, I suppose) and endless neologisms, the assumed background in psychoanalysis (again fair enough perhaps, but itreally inhibits my reading of the text). Zizek's clearer, but his rhetoric is annoying (constant use of 'From this we can see...', 'Can we not then say...', 'Is this not the same as...' in place of explicit argument), and for some reason I never completely trust his exegesis.

Anyway I know there's a reasonable number of people connected to this board with a good background in theory. I'm wondering why people read psychoanalysis, and related theory? What do you get from it? How does it help your thought (particularly thought that's not obviously connected to a 'clinical' setting)? Also, how should one understand what I'd probably call the 'modality' of claims made by psychoanalysts - are they uncovering necessary and universal structures that constitute subjectivity? If they are, what should one make of this, in terms of a) the justifications offered for these claims; and b) their implications? If psychoanalysts are not doing this, what are they doing?
 
 
semioticrobotic
00:28 / 24.10.06
As someone who was also exposed to Kristeva's _Powers of Horror_ for the first time this week (yesterday, as a matter of fact), I second the call for any kind of help. Like nighthawk I feel like I get the jist, but can't really (after drawing the deep breath necessary at a chapter's conclusion) talk sensibly about what I just read.
 
 
Good Intentions
05:56 / 24.10.06
If you want a background in psychoanalysis I recommend reading Freud as the best recourse, especially his earlier works. The man gets a severe beating at times, but he doesn't altogether deserve it (only some of it). "The Psychopathology of Everyday Life" is a particular favourite of mine, but won't teach you too much technical language. Freud was an excellent didactic writer, and even if he has been discarded by science (sometimes showing a distinct lack of judgement or honesty on the hands of these scientists) he can be salvaged into a pretty cogent philosophy. For one thing, Freud should always be commended on making concrete the idea of psychic determinism - that people act for a reason, that nothing is uncaused. The most important thing to finding the value in Freud is not to become fixated on the controversial elements of his psychology.

Derrida's rescue of Freud is quite an excellent and informative piece of writing, once you know Freud himself a bit. I've also taken a lot of insight out of Paul-Laurent Assoun's "Freud and Nietzsche" as an extrapolation of Freud's psychology, but that would be because I know Nietzsche inside out.

As for Lacan, who is the only other psychoanalyst I've investigated, the worst possible way to get to know him is to read him. Become halfway familiar with Freud first, read a few secondary sources, then read some more. His "Ecrits" are amongst the most opaque writings ever to get wider renows. His "Lectures" are actually where you should get into Lacan first hand.
 
 
Saturn's nod
09:13 / 24.10.06
whistler would be my neighbourly expert on this, and I've sent a pm to entreat participation.

My own understanding is that the psychoanalytical discourse in social theory prioritizes the interiority - the internal landscape of motivation? - of humans in interaction with each other. Psychoanalysis from Freud onwards is a constellation of observations and (from my perspective) just-so stories to explain how humans act. The stories focus on the influence that early interactions with significant other(s) have a shaping effect on a person's character. Concepts such as the existence of unconscious motivations moving a person are rooted in psychoanalytical ideas.

It's my impression that the language of psychoanalysis might be a reaction to other kinds of theorising about human motivations in which the interior landscape of the person is seen as less determining of the outcome of social interactions. I guess a contrasting model could be behaviourism (Skinner onwards and perhaps by extension the more experimental/empirical branch of psychology?) in which interiority is irrelevant and actions are the focus.
 
 
nighthawk
21:01 / 26.10.06
Thanks Good intentions/Saturn's nod. I'm basically just bumping this now, because I want to hear from more posters... But hopefully I'll manage to say something by the weekend about why psychoanalysis unsettles me. In the mean time, I'm interested in what people have to say about my last questions:

Also, how should one understand what I'd probably call the 'modality' of claims made by psychoanalysts - are they uncovering necessary and universal structures that constitute subjectivity? If they are, what should one make of this, in terms of a) the justifications offered for these claims; and b) their implications? If psychoanalysts are not doing this, what are they doing?
 
 
Good Intentions
06:26 / 27.10.06
I think that they do indeed do what you say, and that since Freud they've been too prudent to make those claims too loudly. I agree with you about how troublesome such a project is.

When I first went to university psychology was my second choice course. Now I can't think about the field without giggling/patronisingly shaking my head.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
12:04 / 27.10.06
I think it's worth saying out loud, just to get it clear, that if "theory" means analysing culture, in all it's forms, and as "culture" is made of people, and people are made of a bodymind- a mind and a body together- so the bodymind is in some way shape or form the base of the cultural superstructure. So, if "psychology" is what explores the "mind" part of the bodymind, it must have some relevance to theory.

As a specific example, I'm reading Macherey's "The Textual Unconscious" (I think it's called that) which considers whether we can talk about the silences in a text- what is not said in the text, think Hemingway or Mein Kampf- as a Freudian unconscious, as if the text is a kind of mind with this and the other parts you might expect. Right or wrong (I haven't discussed it with a tutor yet) it's certainly interesting and reccomendable.

Then, there's a lot of post-colonial theory that talks about perceptions of an "other", which goes back to Lacan.

You don't neccesarily need to agree with everything the psychologists came up with, or agree with how they got there (Freud talks several bollocks about women), but their ideas do tend to work well as tools to look at a text.
 
 
nighthawk
12:23 / 27.10.06
I think it's worth saying out loud, just to get it clear, that if "theory" means analysing culture, in all it's forms, and as "culture" is made of people, and people are made of a bodymind- a mind and a body together- so the bodymind is in some way shape or form the base of the cultural superstructure. So, if "psychology" is what explores the "mind" part of the bodymind, it must have some relevance to theory.

A pedantic aside perhaps, but I deliberately used 'psychoanalysis' rather than 'psychology' to avoid this confusion. Its not that I think subjectivity or the mind is irrelevant to culture. I'm just unclear about the claims made by psychoanalysis (particularly post-Lacanian strains).
 
 
Tom Coates
10:35 / 28.10.06
I spent a lot of time working around Psychoanalysis while I was doing my abortive doctorate, so maybe I can be of help here.

The best way, in my opinion, to get started with Psychoanalysis of any form is to read some of Freud. There are a number of reasons why this is a good idea, but the main foundational one is that he's an extraordinary writer, clear and easy to read, passionate and engaging and you can fly through it and really get a sense of what he's arguing for and why it's so convincing and revolutionary.

Don't try and read it all, because even the eighteen volume Penguin edition is far from everything he wrote. I would discard from your pile of books to read straight away The Interpretation of Dreams and any of Case Studies. The Interpretation of Dreams is enormous, time-consuming and ably summarised by Freud himself later on. The Case Studies are actually more interesting as textual works and ways of analysing transference and performance rather than as ways of getting to understand the core ideas of Psychoanalysis.

I personally find his works concerned with eruptions of the unconscious into everyday life among the most interesting and valuable - stuff like The Psychopathology of Everyday Life, Jokes and their relation to the Unconscious and his works on Creative Writing. I think they're the clearest next stage from the foundations of the discipline that he started with The Interpretation of Dreams.

Then there's the work on sexuality and identity, which I think is the stuff that suffers the most in retrospect and seems the most artificial and unconvincing - particularly the sexuality stuff. And then there's the various works on culture and civilisation - on the Primal Horde in Totem and Taboo, Religion in Future of an Illusion etc.

Basically, if you want to get up to speed quickly with the territory, then I would actually recommend reading Freud's own Introductory Lectures in Psychoanalysis and then choosing one of the above territories to dig around in subsequently. The Introductory Lectures are stunning bits of work - they're not for kids, they're not superficial, they're genuine attempts to capture most of the significant insights of his career into clear and easy to articulate territories. The only thing I'd warn you about when you're reading them that they're mostly mid to end career stuff and that his ideas changed DRAMATICALLY throughout his life.

Now the transition points between Freud himself and Kristeva are many and varied, but basically you're talking about a feminist rearticulation and reexamination of a post-structuralist re-examination of Freud himself. Which means Freud + Ferdinand de Saussure * Levi-Strauss squared, passed through Lacan to Luce Irigaray, Helene Cixous and Julia Kristeva.

I will agree with the person above who indicated that Lacan himself is a nightmare to read. It's absolutely true. I'm not particularly clear on his thinking after reading a hell of a lot of his stuff, but basically I suppose you could probably massively bastardise him to say that he's all about taking Freud's ideas about how you become self-aware and a person and rearticulating that in a sort of Althusserian way to make it about how you are created as a subject within language - how you become aware of yourself, how you understand that there are multiple concepts in the world that are divided from one another (ie. language and meaning) and what implications the psychoanalytic insights of how the self is born can have on meaning, concepts and fundamental aspects of being. Within this, he talks about the transcendental signifier - ie. the concept that creates the whole idea of difference between concepts and the various sliding layers between word and meaning - as the phallus or Nom de Pere. Basically he's suggesting that the Oedipal moment where the father gets between the mother and child is the thing that creates the idea of difference and this schism creates our understnading of language and meaning. With hilarious consequences.

I would not necessarily recommend reading Lacan, but what I would recommend are two or three books that can help you get from Freud's Introductory Lectures through to Kristeva relatively quickly. They are Toril Moi's Sexual/Textual Politics and ... er ... two other books which I've forgotten right now, which are something like Psychoanalytic Feminism - crap, I can't remember it - and another book which has a review of many different feminisms and was in Routledge last time I looked, which has a really good article on Psychoanalytic feminism which really summarises the field.

You could get through all of this stuff relatively easily in around a week if you put your mind to it and it'll make everything else much easier to get a grasp upon. Can anyone remember the books I'm talking about?
 
 
ginger
02:01 / 29.10.06
having briefly asked a colleague in the pub, the routledge general feminism book that immediately sprung to her mind was the Routledge Companion to Feminism and Postfeminism, 'the one with the sicky orange cover', which's been knocking around for a few years. does that sound right?

Toril Moi's got wikidmad skillz, and saves my life at least twice a week. in additon, dare i suggest the psychoanalysis chapter of Terry Eagleton's 'Literary Theory'? i know it's kid's stuff, but he's very, very good at explaining the basics, and saves you from wading through the above-mentioned nineteen shelves of Freud. on a more general level, that book's a good companion piece to the Moi one; given their relationship, and mutual involvement in each other's books, it's not surprising.

(at some point, i'll come back an go off on one about the effects psychoanalysis has on the areas i'm working in, but i suspect it'd be a bit of a waste of good and worthy thread, so shall sit on it for now.)
 
 
ginger
12:11 / 29.10.06
further to that, i've had a wee look in blackwells, and the routledge feminism book's got a good psychoanalysis chapter, so i assume that must be the book tom means.

the chapter has the benefit of being very brief; i was going to go and get a cup of tea and read it in the coffee shop, but had finished it before i got to the front of the queue, if that's any measure. about ten pages, though not in any way superficial. whoever danielle ramsey is, she too has wikidmad skillz.

will go back next week and buy it, since between that and saint toril, i may just about be able to bollocks my way through the few feminism-centric conversations i can't get out of by recourse to The Void, solipsism or sudden bladder weakness. barelith is gradually making me a more complete human being.
 
 
Disco is My Class War
05:30 / 30.10.06
I've swum around in psychoanalysis a little bit, particularly around feminism. I used to think Freud was the devil -- coming from a Foucauldian and Deleuzian background, that was probably inevitable. Now I'm not so sure. Freud really is a lovely writer. I'd particularly recommend Civilisation and Its Discontents as well as the introductory lectures. Some of the case studies are really worth reading, particularly The Schreber Case. (Then you can read the critique of it in Anti Oedipus.)

It's probably important to point out that there are many, many ways of reading Freud: he's considered by some to have two very contradictory 'modes'. One is all about stipulating normative, universal structures of subjectivity, in a fairly prescriptive way and with liberal recourse to biological determinism and dodgy sexual politics. The 'other Freud' could be said to offer tools to think through the connections between perversity, subjectivity and physical bodies, or between sexuality and desire and (even) politics, which may not work in all cases, or be said to be universal, but may work to illuminate some forms of cultural attachments and bodily experiences. The 'other' Freud doesn't so much produce 'sexual perversion' as non-normative that has to be fixed, but claims everyone is perverse. This is the Freud who talks about childrens' sexuality as 'polymosphously perverse', for example. This is the Freud who comes up with the term Besetzung or cathexis, which I think is beautiful and useful. Also, structuralism, deconstruction, post-structuralism, Althusser, Bataille, the whole swathe of French philosophy and marxist thought between 1940 and 1980 simply wouldn't have happened without the influence of Lacan. It's worth reading even to get a grasp of the historical conditions of production of French theory. If you don't want to read Lacan himself but want a historical perspective on how he influenced that generation of thinkers, I recommend Elisabeth Roudinesco's biography, which is quite theoretically comprehnsive, and Jacques Lacan and Co: A History of Psychoanalysis in France 1925-1985.

how should one understand what I'd probably call the 'modality' of claims made by psychoanalysts - are they uncovering necessary and universal structures that constitute subjectivity? If they are, what should one make of this, in terms of a) the justifications offered for these claims; and b) their implications? If psychoanalysts are not doing this, what are they doing?

I think it totally depends who you read. Psychanalysis has come a long way since Freud, and there are all kinds of crazy strands of it. Even just in terms of psychoanalysitc feminism, you've got
a) French feminism -- which, like Irigaray or Kristeva, works as a critique of psychoanalysis and by extension, Western philsophy, by using the same tools. I'd advise reading Irigaray over Kristeva any day: maybe This Sex Which Is Not One? I'd also recommend reading Monique Wittig, who sort of appropriates psychoanalysis to explain how lesbians aren't women.
b) Anglo-American psychoanalytic feminism, ie Jacqueline Rose and Juliet Mitchell. (I think tihs is who Tom was thinking of above.) Basically, this strand of psychoanalysitc feminism reads Freud 'against the grain' by taking psychoanalysis as a critique of Western gender politics, rather than a prescription for heteronormativity.
c) Melanie Klein, who is not really a 'feminist' per se but who theorises subjectivity in opposition to Freud's focus on the Father as being the most important person in a child's early development, by talking about mothers, breasts, etc. Personally I find this hopelessly deterministic, but some contemporary feminist philosophers (namely Jessica Benjamin) have rethought Klein's focus on intersubjectivity and childrens' capacity to learn how to be intersubjective, rather than separating as alienated, atomised fragments the way Lacan thinks it.
d) Queer theory/feminism, Anglo-American style: Judith Butler, represent. Butler does a lot with Freud. Sometimes she's critical, sometimes she appropriates Freud for her own purposes. In The Psychic Life of Power Butler marries Freud and Foucault to talk about internal experiences of power and subjection. One of her arguments is that everyone who 'becomes heterosexual' experiences grief for the loss of other possible sexual objects -- which is a nice reversal. At the same time, Butler is a real structuralist, which is, I think, why she likes psychoanalysis so much. She really wants o make univrsal claims about psychic strucutres, and sometimes that lets her down. A lot of other queer theorists appropriate bits of Freud and Lacan to talk about homosexuality: Leo Bersani and Sedgwick spring to mind as two of the best.

Then there's uptake of psychoanalysis to explain colonialism and race: Frantz Fanon's Black Skin, White Masks is probably the cornerstone of this field. There's probably a whole swathe of critical race studies that appropriates particular psychoanalytic terminology to account for the psychic structures of 'race', ethnicity, migration etc. One of my favourites is David Eng's concept of racial melancholia. (Or there's this book, called The Melancholy of Race -- don't know how the two relate, sorry, although they appeared at around the same time.)

In my own work, I sometimes do piecemeal adaptations and appropriations of Freud without necessarily buying psychoanalysis wholesale. I think it's possible to use concepts like melancholia or polymorphous perversity or cathexis while simultaneously keeping a deconstructive eye on how not to universalise or essentialise those concepts, or the formation of them. Even if there is such a 'psychic structure' as melancholia, it doesn't have to be the case that everyone's melancholia is the same, or even that it has the same effects.

I was going to talk about the whole strand of psychoanalystic marxism, which might be up your alley, nighthawk -- Marcuse, Reich (!) and even some Adorno. But I'm out of time. They're definitely worth reading, though.
 
 
nighthawk
05:43 / 30.10.06
Thanks Mister Disco (and others) - that was incredibly useful.
 
 
Tom Coates
06:38 / 30.10.06
Ginger Justice - could you link to the book concerned on Amazon? I'd really like to see if it is the one I mean. There's another dedicated volume which I've got in Norfolk with my family but isn't down in london with me now, and I completely wish I could remember what it was called. Also in Routledge if I remember correctly.
 
 
ginger
10:40 / 30.10.06
your wish, my command:

you can see what she means about the cover

in case i dick up the clever linky thing, in full: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0415243106/ref=pd_rvi_gw_1/202-2933156-9783862

think i might drop the justice. what works in the british kendo irony's a very specific thing.
 
 
sdv (non-human)
14:53 / 30.10.06
Time is short, unfortunately for me it always is these days.... So as a gesture towards a non_lancanian thought about psychoanalysis

Try Christian Kerslake on multitudes...

Insects and incest from Bergson and jung to deleuze

or
http://multitudes.samizdat.net/Insects-and-Incest-From-Bergson.html

I'd raise the terrifying spectre of Ms Klien... but perhaps not.

s
 
 
Tom Coates
20:38 / 30.10.06
Actually no! That's not the one I was talking about, although I can't bloody find the one I was talking about. I did find one other though that I remember being particularly useful and that was a book on Psychoanalytic literary criticism from Elizabeth Wright: Psychoanalytic Criticism. I remember finding the first edition of this surprisingly useful.
 
 
ginger
23:52 / 30.10.06
hmmm. a brief look at the routlegde website doesn't turn up anything hugely obvious as an alternative.

whilst i do so hate to use the 'd' word in polite company, and have no idea if barbelith loves or loathes crazy ol' captain jacques, there's an article in the palgrave 'Deconstructions: A User's Guide', editted by Nicholas Royle; the article's by maud ellman, if think, on derrida's response to psychoanalysis. in brief, not keen on lacan, wavers on freud, hugely fond of abraham and torok.

it suffers from the usual problems of being a bit of a love letter to derrida (and if memory serves, the robert yuong article in the book's literally in the form of one), but it's a sound survey of his readings of psychoanalytical work.

incidentally, on a feminist side-track, there's a really good article in the same book on jenny holzer by one of the elams, i assume diane, which is worth the price on its own. apologies for not bothering to check, but it's in a room somewhere the other end of town.
 
 
Tom Coates
09:01 / 22.01.07
Having looked around quite widely, I now recall that the book I was going to recommend was Rosemarie Tong's Feminist Thought: A Comprehensive Introduction which has a substantial section on Psychoanalysis and another on Postmodern Feminism which includes work on Kristeva, Cixous and Irigaray. It's not the deepest work, but it's a good overview if you're looking at the territory from above to try and contextualise yourself.
 
  
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