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Robin Hood, Robin Hood...

 
  

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miss wonderstarr
08:49 / 10.10.06
He reminds me of someone

Isn't he Nathan Barley? Perhaps in episode 3 he'll show his "whole face".
 
 
■
09:17 / 10.10.06
Let's not start that.
Anyway, Nathan is due to appear in the new Fanny Craddock biopic with Julia Davies: "Fear of Fanny".
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:00 / 10.10.06
He reminds me of someone

Avid Merrion, with a touch of the taller one from Mitchell & Webb.
 
 
_Boboss
11:17 / 10.10.06
funniest bit was with poppa scarlet who'd had his hand cut off three summers past or whatever the fuck:

go on, show us then, handy...

no no, i'm just going to stand with my arms folded in every scene.

this show was cack, but cack that by the miracle of curling looks a bit like jesus or something, and so worth another couple of looks before flushing away forever.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
15:06 / 10.10.06
poppa scarlet who'd had his hand cut off three summers past or whatever the fuck:

That's true, when you did see his "stump" briefly in one shot, the end of his wrist was where the end of a normal person's hand would be, ie. his sleeve was clearly a few inches longer on that side.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
18:39 / 10.10.06
The Beeb's Robin Hood website has listed reviews from the public, more likes than don't like but a strong showing for the people who didn't and, I'm biased, but the people who didn't like it put more effort into saying why than the likes.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
19:43 / 10.10.06
"The Sheriff is already close to making himself the coolest villain since Darth Vader."


This is just... so wrong, surely. How can a comedian who's been onscreen for maybe five minutes, with a performance appropriated straight from Alan Rickman's version, possibly compete in anyone's mind with Darth Vader, a near-global icon for the last three decades?

I know I shouldn't really be engaging with such nonsense but they did highlight the quotation. I also like the guy who judges "Robin Hood" as historically accurate based on his visit to a tourist attraction in Nottingham. I went on the Peter Pan ride at Disneyland Paris and I can assure you that "Hook" is faithful to the original novel.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
17:35 / 14.10.06
Beautiful people, I need new Robin/Much slash and I need it now.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
17:46 / 14.10.06
Well, that was a great improvement on last week. However, was Robin sent home because everyone else was pissed off that he couldn't kill any Saracens? And was Much sent with him because he was just so fucking annoying? Maid Marian is still a charisma-free zone.

This series is faintly ridiculous if Robin doesn't shoot anyone. Is this going to be a Medieval A-Team? Still, the Sherrif was genuinely nasty this week so that was better. I'll give it a little longer. Hopefully now the merry men are all together (what happened to the outlaws that turned up when Robin and his crew had caught Little John's men?) we can start having some decent stories.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
17:47 / 14.10.06
HAHAHA HAHA HAHAHA HAHA!

-- end credits --

copyright Scooby Doo 1975
 
 
Ganesh
19:01 / 14.10.06
Isn't he Nathan Barley? Perhaps in episode 3 he'll show his "whole face".

God bless you, Wonderstarr. X
 
 
Ganesh
19:19 / 14.10.06
It's also giving Keith fucking Allen a paycheque, which is all kinds of wrong.

I don't think one can automatically assume that Keith Allen = useless. In Bodies, he was really rather wonderful.
 
 
Lama glama
19:59 / 14.10.06
I tuned in at the start of this again, but I just couldn't sit through Keith Allen, so switched to Galapagos on the other side instead. Those goats! Grr.

I happened to switch back about five minutes before the end and there was a decent enough fight scene with lots of hairy fellows doing things with swords, which was nice. Then came the horrible (as MW says, Scooby-dooesque) fade out and my will to watch the show ever again evaporated.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
20:29 / 14.10.06
I especially liked the bit where Pipsqueak Hood is shooting the arrows at Panto Sheriff - as if from some huge distance - and then the Sheriff literally stands up from his chair right in to the point of the arrow, as if he was only a metre away the whole time.

I thought there was lots of funny editing going on, actually, with bits not quite fitting together as I suspect they were intended. But y'know, I find it quite amusingly fun. If I was a kid I'd quite frankly love it.

I don't think anyone would believe that little lad had been to WAR FOR FIVE YEARS, though.
 
 
Ganesh
20:52 / 14.10.06
Was that the Little Lad who's also the 'lanburnum' estate agent from the odious BT adverts, or am I conflating episodes 1 and 2?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
20:55 / 14.10.06
This show reminded me, more than anything, of the early-90s kids' TV series "Maid Marian and Her Merry Men", with Tony Robinson. Many of the actors seem to be playing it as teatime comedy, almost panto ~ people "hiding" in full view behind a branch ~ coupled with the hero's refusal to actually do more than shoot scissors from the air and whack baddies with the flat of his sword, this is very bloodless, insipid stuff.

And yet the comedy and supposedly smart lines seem telegraphed in and badly translated from another culture: two soldiers have a... a "joke" about how Robin of Locksley might as well be called Robin Wood, and we're meant to believe Robin Hood is so-called because an executioner misheard it? A running gag consists of someone squealing that food isn't properly cooked? And the scene where some poor soul had to try to make a funny out of "you could say the Sheriff got your tongue. Not the cat... if someone was being quiet. You could say not the cat got your tongue, but the Sheriff got it..." I was almost blushing as the joke blundered on through dead air, floundering, taking a minute to die. It felt almost like a version of Robin Hood beamed in from Borat's village. Robin, he very niiice, he wear t-shirt from Gap clothes, play with dog.
 
 
Ganesh
21:08 / 14.10.06
I'm liking the Pradaesque black of Guy Gisbourne et al.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
21:23 / 14.10.06
Guy's sheeny black jacket with piping loops round the sleeves ~ like robot wiring ~ looked like something from Cyberdog. And honestly, they were wearing vests and t-shirts (like, "biscuit" and "slate") in the opening scene. Is this actually meant to be semi-modern dress or something? The dialogue is somewhere between cheeky contemporary and stilted "period drama", so maybe they're openly playing a bit fast and loose with the costumes too?
 
 
Ganesh
22:56 / 14.10.06
'Twas very 'taupe', yes.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
07:16 / 15.10.06
But come on, it was better than last week wasn't it? In the same way the Black Death would have been better than last week.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
07:33 / 15.10.06
Indeed master, it was "sick" like the Black Death, "sick" meaning something most pleasing, if my master understands what I mean innit.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:16 / 16.10.06
Yeah - the idea is that everyone's in cunningly quasi-modern dress - Robon Hood is wearing a hoodie.

DO YOU SEE?

It's not the most inept decision, but presumably intended to put some blue water between this and "Robin of Sherwood"; unfortunately since most people on RoS resembled garage mechanics at a Hawkwind gig, that might not work.

Liking Sir Goth of Gisburne. Robin himself laughably weedy. Keith Allen's performance oddly bloodless. Glacially slow pacing possibly reflecting lack of sets. Much deeply punchable. On the whole, no.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
17:32 / 21.10.06
The Sherrif has a Moor working for him? In the middle of the Crusades? It's political correctness gone maaaaaad!
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
17:58 / 21.10.06
Ok, I've had enough of this cliched nonsense. "God bless ya Robin 'Ood!"
 
 
Olulabelle
22:28 / 21.10.06
I am watching this because it's on in the Dr Who slot. As a result of this, The Lovely Boy firmly believed he should watch it because "it will be as good because otherwise they wouldn't have put it there for us". (There is eight year old logic for you which I have not the heart to disabuse.)

So anyway, we are watching it. And not to get all geeky about Archery or anything, but Robin Hood and his men seem to be shooting recurves. This is sufficiently odd to need explaining, and according to episode one, they are shooting recurves 'because they discovered them in Turkey, in the Crusades'. Now, I shoot a recurve. I am sure I am not alone in assuming that Robin Hood shot a longbow - can anyone tell me if it's likely that Robin Hood might have come across recurves?

As for Keith Allen's 'wacky' sherriff, the 'in bed with Robin' scene was all sorts of wrong, yet somehow still amusing. I think it may still be too early to tell but I rather like Keith Allen so I hope he is successful.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
06:28 / 22.10.06
At the moment the Sherriff doesn't seem to be that concerned about capturing Robin. If he doesn't care that much about Robin why should we?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
09:34 / 22.10.06
Within ten minutes of #3 I'd seem the veering swings of tone from sub-Shakespeare ("Indeed, that I cannot do") to cod contemporary commentary ("We're going to win their hearts and minds... I declare a war on terror") and again, what seems a scene from every episode so far, where Robin, the most hunted man in Nottingham, "hides out" in full regalia with all his men at the back of a crowd within Nottingham's main castle court.

Plus a crazy plot where Robin helps out the villagers then tells the baliff to pretend he didn't help them ~ the baliff is shot by a man who looks like Robin, who turns out to be someone entirely familiar to all the merry men, but never mentioned before called the Night Watchman ~ this alt-Robin, 12th century Batman is trying to make Robin look like a killer, but Marian reveals the man who shot the baliff wasn't the Night Watchman.

At this point I went out for a drink, but if it improved, can someone please let me know and I'll download it.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
10:54 / 22.10.06
I am sure I am not alone in assuming that Robin Hood shot a longbow - can anyone tell me if it's likely that Robin Hood might have come across recurves?

It's possible, I think - the Huns, Mongols and Turkmen were using recurve bows around this time, and there are certainly accounts of crusaders coming up against the "Turkish bow". What I'd find more surprising is that they would have been able to learn how to maintenance and service them, and deal with the changes in temperature and humidity to keep them functional. So, encountered, yes, learned to use I think less likely.
 
 
Ganesh
13:30 / 22.10.06
He'll probably produce an olde Mongolian skateboard in the next episode, and confound the Prada'd baddies (Praddies?) with his boardie skillz.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:23 / 22.10.06
And I can say with reasonable confidence that pinstripe trousers were at a pretty early stage of their development, so Sir Guy of Gothburne is a bit Scadian.
 
 
bjrn
18:14 / 22.10.06
Not only the whole war on terror thing, but also a gem like this:
"I shot the sherrif."
"No you shot the deputy."

*groan*

I don't think historical accuracy is something that was high on the list. Robin's bow? Marian's camo-tank top? Villagers standing unashamed in t-shirts and hoodies? All those guards and similar with their faux-chain mail? (I could go on) Naah, I don't think they cared much about accuracy when they made this.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
19:20 / 22.10.06
or exciting and intelligent stories either.
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
09:19 / 23.10.06
The bow looks more like a Hun bow than a Turkish bow to me and therefore more suitable to the temperate climates of medieval Britain.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
13:23 / 23.10.06
Haus: "blue water": nice, I like it.

If the scriptwriters had gags that good, Robin might be halfway amusing.
 
 
bjrn
20:41 / 20.11.06
Well, finally the sherrif is getting a bit more evil. I'm enjoying watching what kind of dresses they come up with next. Marian was very modest this episode and managed to wear one outfit two days in a row, as opposed to last weeks three changes in a matter of hours (not counting her changes from/to night watchman). Watching what people are wearing is becoming quite a bit part of my enjoyment of the episodes at the moment. And this week the sherrif's casual outfit was quite nice. I'm definitely liking Keith Allen's role (not just outfits). Not liking Sir Goth as much, he's getting a bit tiresome.

Is anyone else still watching the series? The thread's slowed down a bit.
 
  

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